Who was worse?

[North German Realm]

Quiet, you're ruining my fantasies of Otto Wels and the SPD taking over the world.

Hitler could have easily beaten the west in the atomic race, was it not for all the scientists fleeing Nazi Germany. Half the manhattan project were exiles from nazi occupied countries.

Who, of course, escaped specifically because they were the demographics that Hitler's merry band of marauders wanted dead. Had Germany not been a psychopathic National Socialist state, they wouldn't feel a need to escape.

[Saiwania]

The Nazi regime wasn't stupid, they had factories, scientists, etc. and it was a nation full of modernity and technological advancement.

I'd say that Pol Pot was the actual worst, because his plan was to take Cambodia backwards instead of forwards in an almost literal sense. People who live in cities know little to nothing about farming but were moved into the countryside anyways, but there was no plan to feed those people and the rice season at the time was a full month away. Emptying out all of the cities was so dumb, no government tried that before up until then. All of that of course, caused their economy to nosedive.

At least the Soviet Union had some actual industry going on and somewhat valued utilizing every person's talents within their society.

[Soviet Lestland]

I think it should also be accounted what the reason of killing people and how these people were murdered.

Hitler, in his racist temperament ordered the murder of jews, poles, roma and sinti and even more.
Gassing them with rat poison, cyanide, and then incinerating the bodies to ash, making them work and being beaten up, rarely even fed.

[Harkback Union]

Lets stop arguing over who killed more and tackle a more important question:
Who was the cutest mass murderer of the 20th Century?

Ioseb

Adolf

Mao

[Blanjiland]

Lets stop arguing over who killed more and tackle a more important question:
Who was the cutest mass murderer of the 20th Century?

Ioseb

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Adolf

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Mao

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Now we’re asking the real questions here.

I’m not gay but Stalin’s a real cutie ngl

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Lets stop arguing over who killed more and tackle a more important question:
Who was the cutest mass murderer of the 20th Century?

Ioseb

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Adolf

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Mao

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Young Stalin looks like a Washington Post columnist.

[Aureumterra]

The Nazi regime wasn't stupid, they had factories, scientists, etc. and it was a nation full of modernity and technological advancement.

I'd say that Pol Pot was the actual worst, because his plan was to take Cambodia backwards instead of forwards in an almost literal sense. People who live in cities know little to nothing about farming but were moved into the countryside anyways, but there was no plan to feed those people and the rice season at the time was a full month away. Emptying out all of the cities was so dumb, no government tried that before up until then. All of that of course, caused their economy to nosedive.

At least the Soviet Union had some actual industry going on and somewhat valued utilizing every person's talents within their society.

An apologist for all three… now that’s a first

[Cekoviu]

Lets stop arguing over who killed more and tackle a more important question:
Who was the cutest mass murderer of the 20th Century?

Ioseb

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Adolf

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Mao

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Stalin puts me in a very difficult position tbh.

[Internationalist Bastard]

I mean here’s my logic
Hitlers the worst because while he had less victims, that was in significantly less time

[BrightonBurg]

My ex..

[Aureumterra]

My ex..

Very funny, sooooo original, I’m literally dying right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Estanglia]

Lets stop arguing over who killed more and tackle a more important question:
Who was the cutest mass murderer of the 20th Century?

Ioseb

(Image)

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Adolf

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Mao

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They're all cute, but Hitler's moustache ruins him for me. Like, learn how to shave first before you take over Germany as the Führer and start WWII.

I can't believe that I just called Stalin and Mao cute.

[Herador]

Lets stop arguing over who killed more and tackle a more important question:
Who was the cutest mass murderer of the 20th Century?

Ioseb

(Image)

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Adolf

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Mao

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So, Stalin looks the flat out cutest, but here's the issue: Mao looks like a twink who can power bottom his way into changing your life and Hitler has a kind of big-dick-zaddy energy I find it hard to deny. Tough question.

[First American Empire]

My ex..

But are you Eva Braun, Kato Svanidze, Nadezhda Alliluyeva, Luo Yixiu, Yang Kaihui, He Zizhen, or Jiang Qing?

[Hirota]

It might be a tad heartless, but it gets to a point where absurdly high numbers of dead people all kind of mean the same thing. You might as well write a topic asking which form of fatal cancer you'd prefer, considering how unproductive discussions about "which evil arsehole was the most evil?" tend to be.

You are right. This kind of comparison is demeaning to the victims of Stalin, Mao, and Hitler.

<shrugs>

"When one person dies, it’s a tragedy, but when a million people die, it’s a statistic."

As much as I dislike the arsehole, Stalin wasn't exactly wrong with this pragmatism.

[Ayytaly]

The 4 Horsemen of Communism killed more overall, but that's because they were indifferent. Hitler's genocide was more specific towards race. It's why people are indifferent if Mao starved 30M farmers to die since they were all Chinese. Hitler's reasonings to kill off Slavs as part of the Generalplan Ost is more concerning, since it involves invasion. It's why colonialism is seen in such a negative light nowadays.

[Aureumterra]

literally every Mao fanboy

[Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia]

Thanks to the Adolf we have Fanta, laws against living animal experiments, natural areas led to endangered species, scientiffic advances, free healthcare systems, pension systems, some gender equality laws, and the protection of culture.
Yes, he permited some bad things to happen, but he was also the responsible of some lovely things

"Some" bad things?
The persecution of millions, the worst war in history, countless human rights abuses, the reimagining of Germany as an ethnostate, the destruction of nations, the multiple violations of national sovereignty, and the pursuit of a "New Order" which would have seen the enslavement or extermination of multiple races; but no, it was only "some" bad things.

You know what, while we're at it let's break down the "good" things he's responsible for.

1. Fanta
Ah yes, a soft drink. Surely that'll lend a few karma points.

2. Laws against living animal experiments
Don't need animals when you have concentration camp inmates.

3. Natural areas led to endangered species
America started doing that years before. He didn't invent that shit. And still doesn't make up for, you know, WWII.

4. Scientiffic advances
I'm sure it was worth the human experimentation.

5. Free healthcare systems
Not for Jews.

6. Pension systems,
The retirement plan for untermenschen was them digging their own grave.

7. Some gender equality laws
And "some" anti-homosexual laws.

8. And the protection of culture
The revision of German identity to fit a national socialist conception of the Aryan race and persecution of ethnic groups under the German government is not protecting culture.

That is very contradictory but still possible.
By the way, jews ar not a race, they are followers of a religion...

Judaism is an ethnic religion, and Nazi conceptions about it included beliefs about Jews's genetics and physiology.

The plot was after all a fight to gain power. Herr Goebbels was a Hitler dissent at firsts, then he tried to persuade him of many things (Like the Holocaust) and he achieved some of his goals, but the Adolf did not want some other of his goals to happen, as well as the goals of other high party members, so they started the plot to wash their names from the history of holocaust, and instead make Uncle Adolf the responsible of all.

No he definitely wanted his goals to happen, because many of Goebbels's goals (The Holocaust) were Hitler's goals.

Not to mention that the animal rights legislation people keep mentioning to humanize Hitler were not even being followed by a majority of Nazi officials and they were not adequately enforced, so to call Hitler a progressive activist for animal liberation is fractal wrongness.

[Kubra]

It's hard to call Mao more evil than most Chinese emperors during crisis. When you're cloistered away in the forbidden city with your court of soothsayers outside problems don't seem very real.

[Drunkerland]

"Some" bad things?
The persecution of millions, the worst war in history, countless human rights abuses, the reimagining of Germany as an ethnostate, the destruction of nations, the multiple violations of national sovereignty, and the pursuit of a "New Order" which would have seen the enslavement or extermination of multiple races; but no, it was only "some" bad things.

You know what, while we're at it let's break down the "good" things he's responsible for.

1. Fanta
Ah yes, a soft drink. Surely that'll lend a few karma points.

2. Laws against living animal experiments
Don't need animals when you have concentration camp inmates.

3. Natural areas led to endangered species
America started doing that years before. He didn't invent that shit. And still doesn't make up for, you know, WWII.

4. Scientiffic advances
I'm sure it was worth the human experimentation.

5. Free healthcare systems
Not for Jews.

6. Pension systems,
The retirement plan for untermenschen was them digging their own grave.

7. Some gender equality laws
And "some" anti-homosexual laws.

8. And the protection of culture
The revision of German identity to fit a national socialist conception of the Aryan race and persecution of ethnic groups under the German government is not protecting culture.


Judaism is an ethnic religion, and Nazi conceptions about it included beliefs about Jews's genetics and physiology.

No he definitely wanted his goals to happen, because many of Goebbels's goals (The Holocaust) were Hitler's goals.

Not to mention that the animal rights legislation people keep mentioning to humanize Hitler were not even being followed by a majority of Nazi officials and they were not adequately enforced, so to call Hitler a progressive activist for animal liberation is fractal wrongness.

It's pretty sad that Hitler cared more about animals than humans.

[Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia]

Not to mention that the animal rights legislation people keep mentioning to humanize Hitler were not even being followed by a majority of Nazi officials and they were not adequately enforced, so to call Hitler a progressive activist for animal liberation is fractal wrongness.

It's pretty sad that Hitler cared more about animals than humans.

The only thing Hitler ever cared for in his life was raw and absolute power.

[Pacomia]

It's hard to call Mao more evil than most Chinese emperors during crisis. When you're cloistered away in the forbidden city with your court of soothsayers outside problems don't seem very real.

True.

It's pretty sad that Hitler cared more about animals than humans.

The only thing Hitler ever cared for in his life was raw and absolute power.

...And animals.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

It's hard to call Mao more evil than most Chinese emperors during crisis. When you're cloistered away in the forbidden city with your court of soothsayers outside problems don't seem very real.

True.

The only thing Hitler ever cared for in his life was raw and absolute power.

...And animals.

Surprisingly he was pretty big on protecting animal rights.

[Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia]

True.


...And animals.

Surprisingly he was pretty big on protecting animal rights.

In the end though, it was merely lip service to expand his power, as seen below:
Effectiveness
"Although various laws were enacted for animal protection, the extent to which they were enforced has been questioned. The law enacted by Hermann Göring on August 16, 1933 banning vivisection was revised by a decree of September 5 of that year, with more lax provisions, then allowing the Reich Interior Ministry to distribute permits to some universities and research institutes to conduct animal experiments under conditions of anesthesia and scientific need.[23] According to Pfugers Archiv für die Gesamte Physiologie (Pfugers Archive for the Total Physiology), a science journal at that time, there were many animal experiments during the Nazi regime.[24] In 1936, the Tierärztekammer (Chamber of Veterinarians) in Darmstadt filed a formal complaint against the lack of enforcement of the animal protection laws on those who conducted illegal animal testing.[25]

Controversies
Policies regarding non-Nazi activists
Animal rights activist Boria Sax argues in his book Animals in the Third Reich: Pets, Scapegoats, and the Holocaust that the Nazis manipulated attitudes towards animal protection to conform to their own symbolic system. Presumably, by equating the National Socialist German Workers Party with "nature", the Nazis reduced ethical issues to biological questions.[26]

Scholars who argue that the Nazis were not authentic supporters of animal rights point out that the Nazi regime disbanded some organizations advocating environmentalism or animal protection. These organizations, such as the 100,000-member strong Friends of Nature, were disbanded because they advocated Marxism or other political ideologies that were illegal under Nazi law.[27]"

[Kubra]

Surprisingly he was pretty big on protecting animal rights.

In the end though, it was merely lip service to expand his power, as seen below:
Effectiveness
"Although various laws were enacted for animal protection, the extent to which they were enforced has been questioned. The law enacted by Hermann Göring on August 16, 1933 banning vivisection was revised by a decree of September 5 of that year, with more lax provisions, then allowing the Reich Interior Ministry to distribute permits to some universities and research institutes to conduct animal experiments under conditions of anesthesia and scientific need.[23] According to Pfugers Archiv für die Gesamte Physiologie (Pfugers Archive for the Total Physiology), a science journal at that time, there were many animal experiments during the Nazi regime.[24] In 1936, the Tierärztekammer (Chamber of Veterinarians) in Darmstadt filed a formal complaint against the lack of enforcement of the animal protection laws on those who conducted illegal animal testing.[25]

Controversies
Policies regarding non-Nazi activists
Animal rights activist Boria Sax argues in his book Animals in the Third Reich: Pets, Scapegoats, and the Holocaust that the Nazis manipulated attitudes towards animal protection to conform to their own symbolic system. Presumably, by equating the National Socialist German Workers Party with "nature", the Nazis reduced ethical issues to biological questions.[26]

Scholars who argue that the Nazis were not authentic supporters of animal rights point out that the Nazi regime disbanded some organizations advocating environmentalism or animal protection. These organizations, such as the 100,000-member strong Friends of Nature, were disbanded because they advocated Marxism or other political ideologies that were illegal under Nazi law.[27]"

the vegetarianism of Hitler was probably more of a personal quirk than an aspect of the party.