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Postby The Emerald Legion » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:27 am

Necroghastia wrote:
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Most of the greed in America is from the poor. Not the rich.


I legitimately have no idea how to respond to this. There's no way anyone can seriously say that with a straight face.


Yes you can if you'd ever lived among the poor. That's WHY a lot of them are poor. Because their desire for stuff outpaces their contribution to society.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:33 am

State of Turelisa wrote:Since there are state schools here in Britain, whose teachers have the right to tell their pupils they themselves are homosexual, and plaster the walls of their classrooms with political posters promoting
homosexuality, the answer is yes.

Why did you did up a months old thread? Why is it so bad to teach children to be tolerant? If these are your thoughts why not start a new thread instead of grave digging?

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:41 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:
I legitimately have no idea how to respond to this. There's no way anyone can seriously say that with a straight face.


Yes you can if you'd ever lived among the poor. That's WHY a lot of them are poor. Because their desire for stuff outpaces their contribution to society.


As someone who has lived among the poor, ima have to say no
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:42 am

San Lumen wrote:
State of Turelisa wrote:Since there are state schools here in Britain, whose teachers have the right to tell their pupils they themselves are homosexual, and plaster the walls of their classrooms with political posters promoting
homosexuality, the answer is yes.

Why did you did up a months old thread? Why is it so bad to teach children to be tolerant? If these are your thoughts why not start a new thread instead of grave digging?


This is months old?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:19 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Why did you did up a months old thread? Why is it so bad to teach children to be tolerant? If these are your thoughts why not start a new thread instead of grave digging?


This is months old?


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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:25 am

Reminds me of my politics teacher who told her rather bemused class of 4 (weirdly all people who planned to vote ukip which was odd for both the area and age group) why they should vote lib dem.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:27 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Reminds me of my politics teacher who told her rather bemused class of 4 (weirdly all people who planned to vote ukip which was odd for both the area and age group) why they should vote lib dem.


How do you choose between UKIP and lib dem? *confused screeching*
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:30 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Reminds me of my politics teacher who told her rather bemused class of 4 (weirdly all people who planned to vote ukip which was odd for both the area and age group) why they should vote lib dem.


How do you choose between UKIP and lib dem? *confused screeching*

This was back when they weren't just a party of racists. I'd never consider voting for them now.
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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:12 am

Depends on how one defines liberal. The word isn't objectively defined, in case you hadn't noticed.

Compared to the mainstream right, school's tone on diversity is pretty positive. On the other hand, compared to the mainstream left, school's tone on cannabis use is pretty negative.

Of course, if anyone disagrees all that strongly with what school is teaching kids, they can feel free to actually show up for the next school board election.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:13 am

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Depends on how one defines liberal. The word isn't objectively defined, in case you hadn't noticed.

Compared to the mainstream right, school's tone on diversity is pretty positive. On the other hand, compared to the mainstream left, school's tone on cannabis use is pretty negative.

Of course, if anyone disagrees all that strongly with what school is teaching kids, they can feel free to actually show up for the next school board election.

We don't get that in the UK. We just get shitty education.
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Postby Byrdonia » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:19 am

It's not just the leftist teachers at my school which aren't that bad. It's all the brain washed children spewing their garbage on how we need to become socialist and Soviet Russia was right they just did it wrong

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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:34 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Depends on how one defines liberal. The word isn't objectively defined, in case you hadn't noticed.

Compared to the mainstream right, school's tone on diversity is pretty positive. On the other hand, compared to the mainstream left, school's tone on cannabis use is pretty negative.

Of course, if anyone disagrees all that strongly with what school is teaching kids, they can feel free to actually show up for the next school board election.

We don't get that in the UK. We just get shitty education.

General election, then. The schools are subordinate to the general public one way or the other.
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2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.

How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:38 am

Byrdonia wrote:It's not just the leftist teachers at my school which aren't that bad. It's all the brain washed children spewing their garbage on how we need to become socialist and Soviet Russia was right they just did it wrong

children dont have the same opinions therefore is brainwashing. What an absurd notion

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Postby Commonwealth Republic of Andyrssia » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:42 am

America is a federal republic and the political culture is broadly varying across communities and states. I’ve lived in multiple states, some liberal, some conservative, and completely and totally unsurprisingly, schools in the liberal states were liberal and the conservative states were conservative. In neither situation was the bias bad enough that it ever impeded on the quality of education, though.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:48 am

Byrdonia wrote:It's not just the leftist teachers at my school which aren't that bad. It's all the brain washed children spewing their garbage on how we need to become socialist and Soviet Russia was right they just did it wrong


In America they aren't even the cool kind of left wing, involving worker revolts, unionization and working class solidarity worldwide. It's just the usual horse manure about "look at all the terrible things white people did" and "women are oppressed in america!" Real inequality and oppression is overlooked and ignored, whether it's in standing rock, Gaza, Belfast, Bagdhad, Beirut or Moscow
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Celritannia » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:52 am

Allowing people to be educated is within itself Liberal.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:53 am

Celritannia wrote:Allowing people to be educated is within itself Liberal.


Damn it why are all these terms so broad? We can't agree on what liberal, capitalist, racist, war or me having a life even mean anymore
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Nuroblav » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:55 am

Yeah I'd say they do tend to have a liberal bias.
Rojava Free State wrote:In America they aren't even the cool kind of left wing, involving worker revolts, unionization and working class solidarity worldwide. It's just the usual horse manure about "look at all the terrible things white people did" and "women are oppressed in america!" Real inequality and oppression is overlooked and ignored, whether it's in standing rock, Gaza, Belfast, Bagdhad, Beirut or Moscow

It's pretty much the same here in the UK as well. :(
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Postby Celritannia » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:55 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
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Good point. Some are racists, some are misogynists and some are greedy rich people (Trump is all 3 and still not a bible thumper for example).*

*This applies to US conservatives, not non American,1st world conservatives who do have compassion for people not 99% similar to them.


Most of the greed in America is from the poor. Not the rich.



Yes, because the rich business owners getting tax breaks, keeping their money in off shore bank accounts, and refusing to pay tax is not greed at all.
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Postby Celritannia » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:56 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Celritannia wrote:Allowing people to be educated is within itself Liberal.


Damn it why are all these terms so broad? We can't agree on what liberal, capitalist, racist, war or me having a life even mean anymore


Because the English language is complex.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:57 am

Nuroblav wrote:Yeah I'd say they do tend to have a liberal bias.
Rojava Free State wrote:In America they aren't even the cool kind of left wing, involving worker revolts, unionization and working class solidarity worldwide. It's just the usual horse manure about "look at all the terrible things white people did" and "women are oppressed in america!" Real inequality and oppression is overlooked and ignored, whether it's in standing rock, Gaza, Belfast, Bagdhad, Beirut or Moscow

It's pretty much the same here in the UK as well. :(


The people who say we need more minorities and women in government seem to forget that oppression and oligarchy aren't limited to white men. Case in point is Latin america, especially my homeland where until a few months ago you had a governor whose cronies stole disaster relief resources and joked about poor people dying in the aftermath of a storm.

We need more honesty and less unnatural hierarchies in government
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Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:58 am

Celritannia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Damn it why are all these terms so broad? We can't agree on what liberal, capitalist, racist, war or me having a life even mean anymore


Because the English language is complex.


Well, at least we aren't speaking mandarin.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:13 am

Considering that the only schools I've attended were all in Texas I don't see any of this 'liberal bias' people are talking about, but then the Texas Board of Education thinks that Moses is one of our Founding Fathers.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:16 am

Genivaria wrote:Considering that the only schools I've attended were all in Texas I don't see any of this 'liberal bias' people are talking about, but then the Texas Board of Education thinks that Moses is one of our Founding Fathers.


My school had some similar issues, with abstinence only education creating the blue waffle epidemic. I would rather have captain trips be a thing than let blue waffle continue to exist and spread. Thank you UCS board of education. In your attempt to please the devout Catholics and Muslims and Eastern Orthodox in our area, you have condemned the children to the worst diseases known to man. I hope you can look at yourself in the mirror as teens scratch themselves bloody and scream in agony thanks to the appearance of super herpes
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Deacarsia » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:17 am

Yea, schools generally have a liberal bias.
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