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What polytheist religion do you follow?

Hindu (Vaishnavist)
3
14%
Hindu (Shaivist)
1
5%
Hindu (Other)
1
5%
Buddhist (Theravada)
0
No votes
Buddhist (Mahayana)
1
5%
Buddhist (Other)
0
No votes
Chinese Folk Religion
0
No votes
Shintoism
3
14%
European Neo-Paganism
5
24%
Other
7
33%
 
Total votes : 21

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Postby The Hindustani State » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:14 am

Polytheism is simply the belief in more than one supreme deity. Polytheism is an extremely broad term, and polytheistic religions wildly differ, but the majority of polytheists in the world are Hindus at 15% of the global population followed by Buddhists at 7%. 4% of the world’s population subscribes to some Chinese folk religion, generally Polytheistic. In recent years, Pagansim in Europe has been seeing a large revival, especially in countries like Greece and other mediterranean nations, as well as Iceland’s Norse religion.

Many polytheistic religions and sects within said religions place differing importance on deities. A few sects of Hinduism treat Vishnu or Shiva as the supreme deity, with all others being subservient to him, while European Pagan religions have their gods as imperfect human beings, and subject to many mythological stories. This is the general discussion thread for all polytheistic religions.

Some links:
What is polytheism?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:16 am

I’ve been very interested in Hinduism for several years, with a special interest in the worship of both Lord Ganesha and Hanuman.
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Postby The Hindustani State » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:32 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I’ve been very interested in Hinduism for several years, with a special interest in the worship of both Lord Ganesha and Hanuman.

Huh, Shaivism is the smaller sect, while Ganesha is universally worshipped, special worship of Hanuman is generally a Shaivist practice
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:34 am

The Hindustani State wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I’ve been very interested in Hinduism for several years, with a special interest in the worship of both Lord Ganesha and Hanuman.

Huh, Shaivism is the small sect, while Ganesha is universally worshipped, special worship of Hanuman is generally a Shaivist practice


So I guess I’m interested in Shaivism. The only reason I don’t convert is because it seems, for what I’ve been told, that many Hindu discourage it for foreigners.
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Postby The Hindustani State » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:37 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The Hindustani State wrote:Huh, Shaivism is the small sect, while Ganesha is universally worshipped, special worship of Hanuman is generally a Shaivist practice


So I guess I’m interested in Shaivism. The only reason I don’t convert is because it seems, for what I’ve been told, that many Hindu discourage it for foreigners.

No, actually converting to Shaivism is much easier than converting to the much bigger sect of Vaishnavism. Although the overall caste system is dying in Hinduism (a good thing), Shaivism never really had a rigid system and thus, the clergy is far more accepting. Most just need to venerate Shiva and recognize Permeshwar as the supreme god
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:39 am

The Hindustani State wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
So I guess I’m interested in Shaivism. The only reason I don’t convert is because it seems, for what I’ve been told, that many Hindu discourage it for foreigners.

No, actually converting to Shaivism is much easier than converting to the much bigger sect of Vaishnavism. Although the overall caste system is dying in Hinduism (a good thing), Shaivism never really had a rigid system and thus, the clergy is far more accepting. Most just need to venerate Shiva and recognize Permeshwar as the supreme god


It’s easier to become a follower of Shiva than it is of Lord Vishnu?
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Postby Aozora Blu Sky » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:41 am

I'm curious. . . would you consider your sister religion, Zoroastrianism, to be polytheistic or monotheistic?

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Postby The Hindustani State » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:43 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The Hindustani State wrote:No, actually converting to Shaivism is much easier than converting to the much bigger sect of Vaishnavism. Although the overall caste system is dying in Hinduism (a good thing), Shaivism never really had a rigid system and thus, the clergy is far more accepting. Most just need to venerate Shiva and recognize Permeshwar as the supreme god


It’s easier to become a follower of Shiva than it is of Lord Vishnu?

Converting to Hinduism itself has become much easier for foreigners since the turn of the century, there are even organizations both in and outside of South Asia dedicated to it, you can contact one of these if you’re worried.

Also, all Hindus are “followers” of both Shiva and Vishnu, but Shaivists recognize Parmeshwar as the supreme deity with all others being subservient, while Vaishnavists recognize Vishnu or one of his avatars. Based on your special interest in Ganesha, Shiva’s son, and Hanuman, an avatar of Shiva, you seem to be leaning towards Shaivism
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Postby The Hindustani State » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:45 am

Aozora Blu Sky wrote:I'm curious. . . would you consider your sister religion, Zoroastrianism, to be polytheistic or monotheistic?

Zoroastrianism is mixed, but far more monotheistic, since it overwhelmingly values a supreme god, with no other major deities playing an important role
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:45 am

The Hindustani State wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
It’s easier to become a follower of Shiva than it is of Lord Vishnu?

Converting to Hinduism itself has become much easier for foreigners since the turn of the century, there are even organizations both in and outside of South Asia dedicated to it, you can contact one of these if you’re worried.

Also, all Hindus are “followers” of both Shiva and Vishnu, but Shaivists recognize Parmeshwar as the supreme deity with all others being subservient, while Vaishnavists recognize Vishnu or one of his avatars. Based on your special interest in Ganesha, Shiva’s son, and Hanuman, an avatar of Shiva, you seem to be leaning towards Shaivism


Parmeshwar... why is that name so familiar? This is not the name of the giant that represents the universe, right?

Lord Ganesha... especially in his child form has always evinced a lot of emotions of well being from me. For the better part of a decade.
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Postby The Hindustani State » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:50 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The Hindustani State wrote:Converting to Hinduism itself has become much easier for foreigners since the turn of the century, there are even organizations both in and outside of South Asia dedicated to it, you can contact one of these if you’re worried.

Also, all Hindus are “followers” of both Shiva and Vishnu, but Shaivists recognize Parmeshwar as the supreme deity with all others being subservient, while Vaishnavists recognize Vishnu or one of his avatars. Based on your special interest in Ganesha, Shiva’s son, and Hanuman, an avatar of Shiva, you seem to be leaning towards Shaivism


Parmeshwar... why is that name so familiar? This is not the name of the giant that represents the universe, right?

Parmeshwar is the cosmic form of Shiva which controls the universe, according to Shaivists.

Although as a Vaishnavists, I’m more inclined to believe it’s Vishnu, with Rama being the model of a perfect human being.

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Lord Ganesha... especially in his child form has always evinced a lot of emotions of well being from me. For the better part of a decade.

His presence brings senses of protection, which is why most households have him on their front door in India
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Postby Aozora Blu Sky » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:51 am

The Hindustani State wrote:
Aozora Blu Sky wrote:I'm curious. . . would you consider your sister religion, Zoroastrianism, to be polytheistic or monotheistic?

Zoroastrianism is mixed, but far more monotheistic, since it overwhelmingly values a supreme god, with no other major deities playing an important role

Would you consider it to be a monotheistic interpretation of Hinduism then?

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Postby Aureumterra » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:52 am

Norse paganism has indeed been on the rise here lately, although the majority of the people joining seem to be former atheists who just think it’s a cool thing to do, but I have run into a handful of genuine believers in Odin
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:52 am

The Hindustani State wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Parmeshwar... why is that name so familiar? This is not the name of the giant that represents the universe, right?

Parmeshwar is the cosmic form of Shiva which controls the universe, according to Shaivists.

Although as a Vaishnavists, I’m more inclined to believe it’s Vishnu, with Rama being the model of a perfect human being.

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Lord Ganesha... especially in his child form has always evinced a lot of emotions of well being from me. For the better part of a decade.

His presence brings senses of protection, which is why most households have him on their front door in India


Is it a call for believing in one supreme god over the others? I was just reading and that’s the impression I’m getting from the concept of Parmeshawara. I could be misinterpreting it however.
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Postby Jolthig » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:53 am

A very strict monotheist here. I'm interested in learning about other faiths like Hinduism and other pagan religions through watching or engaging in the discourses in here. :)
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Postby Nakena » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:56 am

Aureumterra wrote:Norse paganism has indeed been on the rise here lately, although the majority of the people joining seem to be former atheists who just think it’s a cool thing to do, but I have run into a handful of genuine believers in Odin


Would you ever consider it?

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Postby The Hindustani State » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:57 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The Hindustani State wrote:Parmeshwar is the cosmic form of Shiva which controls the universe, according to Shaivists.

Although as a Vaishnavists, I’m more inclined to believe it’s Vishnu, with Rama being the model of a perfect human being.


His presence brings senses of protection, which is why most households have him on their front door in India


Is it a call for believing in one supreme god over the others? I was just reading and that’s the impression I’m getting from the concept of Parmeshawara. I could be misinterpreting it however.

Pretty much, the belief that Parameshwar is superior to all other deities, and praying to him will bring an end to all problems, while still maintaining the importance of other deities and worshipping them when needed
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:58 am

Aureumterra wrote:Norse paganism has indeed been on the rise here lately, although the majority of the people joining seem to be former atheists who just think it’s a cool thing to do, but I have run into a handful of genuine believers in Odin

We even have a thread about it!
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:58 am

The Hindustani State wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Is it a call for believing in one supreme god over the others? I was just reading and that’s the impression I’m getting from the concept of Parmeshawara. I could be misinterpreting it however.

Pretty much, the belief that Parameshwar is superior to all other deities, and praying to him will bring an end to all problems, while still maintaining the importance of other deities and worshipping them when needed


Ah, shukriya for that explanation.
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Postby Aureumterra » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:00 am

Nakena wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Norse paganism has indeed been on the rise here lately, although the majority of the people joining seem to be former atheists who just think it’s a cool thing to do, but I have run into a handful of genuine believers in Odin


Would you ever consider it?

No, I was born and raised a Christian, and I attend church regularly, I don’t think, unless some cataclysmic event makes me lose faith in God and gain faith in what my ancestors believed, that I will ever convert
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Postby The Hindustani State » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:07 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The Hindustani State wrote:Pretty much, the belief that Parameshwar is superior to all other deities, and praying to him will bring an end to all problems, while still maintaining the importance of other deities and worshipping them when needed


Ah, shukriya for that explanation.

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Also, Parameshwar himself is made up of multiple Tattvas (energies), and a follower achieving balance can be reincarnated as part of Brahma himself. So there’s an element of Buddhism too
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With the rise of Neo-Paganism also came Neo-Pagan extremism, though, like when Ásatrúarfélagið, a Nordic supremacist organization staged a walk to Þingvellir
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Postby The Hindustani State » Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:52 pm

Aureumterra wrote:With the rise of Neo-Paganism also came Neo-Pagan extremism, though, like when Ásatrúarfélagið, a Nordic supremacist organization staged a walk to Þingvellir

Every religion has its share of radical
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Postby Hanafuridake » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:15 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I’ve been very interested in Hinduism for several years, with a special interest in the worship of both Lord Ganesha and Hanuman.


I'm not a Hindu, but in many Buddhist temples, you can find Ganesha worshiped. In Shingon, he's an avatar of Dainichi Nyorai and known as Kangiten or Shōten. He's one of the principle deities that I worship.

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Postby Demoness » Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:22 am

For the polytheists in this thread don't live in Asia where most of the poll religions originate: what have been your experiences in trying to connect with others (or resources) of your faith?

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