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‘No girls born’ for past three months in area of India cover

Postby Jolthig » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:49 am

-covering 132 villages (to finish title).

Any parents found to have carried out female foeticide will face legal action, district magistrate says

An investigation into suspected sex-selective abortions has been launched by magistrates in a district of northern India after government data showed none of the 216 children born across 132 villages over three months were girls.

The official birth rate was “alarming” and pointed towards widespread female foeticide, authorities in Uttarkashi, Uttarakhand state, said.

The country outlawed the selective abortion of female foetuses in 1994 but the practice remains commonplace in the country, where parents often see boys as breadwinners and girls as costly liabilities.

The last population census, conducted in 2011, found there were only 943 females per 1,000 males in India.

The area’s recent female birth rate – collected by the local health department – was “suspicious and has highlighted female foeticide”, said Ashish Chauhan, Uttarkashi’s district magistrate.

The 132 villages where no girls were born over three months have all been marked as part of a “red zone”, which means local data will be scrutinised more closely and health workers have been asked to be vigilant.

Any parents found to have carried out female foeticide will face legal action, Mr Chauhan said, in comments reported by the TNN news agency.

Legislative assembly member Gopal Rawat said: “It is shocking to have a zero girl child birth rate in 132 village of the district, as we have rarely heard of seen any incident of female foeticide in the hills.

“I have directed the health department to find out the real cause of such alarming figures and to take serious action to resolve it.”

He added authorities would also launch “a massive awareness campaign” in the hope of reversing the trend.

Last year an Indian government report found about 63 million women were statistically "missing" from the country's population due to a preference for male children.

"Issues relating to son preference are a matter for Indian society as a whole to reflect upon," the report said.

In India's patriarchal society, male children are seen as future breadwinners and caregivers who have an obligation to look after their parents when they age.

Daughters are seen as costly because parents are often pressured to pay dowries when they marry, despite the custom being banned in 1961.

Last year police found 19 aborted female foetuses near a hospital in the state of Maharashtra.

They were discovered by officers investigating the death of a woman who had undergone an illegal abortion.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 15541.html

Holy cow. 132 villages?

Man, this is alarming for India, and I'm glad they're taking steps to eradicate this horrible practice and traditions. No one should abort a child just because they're female. Not only is it morally wrong, but it's also bad for the economy, and it denies future mothers to produce the next generation of people. I hope and pray India may have better enforcement on this issue.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:57 am

Imagine the pain of being a woman in india.You literally live in a country where people view you as being so unimportant, they wouldn't even mind killing you before you're born because "having a son is so much better." While America has a shitload of problems and idiotic individuals, places like India remind me that things could be way worse. Each and every person responsible ought to be jailed
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:03 am

......I'm going to believe that the Children of Men is ongoing, until I noticed the word "female foeticide".

I'm surprised that this is still a thing, but maybe I've yet to dig more.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:40 am

How can you possibly enforce a law against sex-selective abortion? All a person has to do is lie about why they're having an abortion.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:40 am

Samudera Darussalam wrote:......I'm going to believe that the Children of Men is ongoing, until I noticed the word "female foeticide".

I'm surprised that this is still a thing, but maybe I've yet to dig more.

It's perverse economics - India will continue to have this problem as long as they fail to have an elderly social safety net and the gendered expectation that boys will care for their parents.

Girls mean poverty to parents because Indian society results in parents paying dowrys for someone to care for their daughter as a wife (illegal, but still happens), and the daughter is not required to care for her parents in her old age.

Boys mean security to parents because Indian society results in boys receiving dowrys for someone to become their wife (illegal, but still happens), and the son is required to care for his parents in his old age.

India needs some type of social-security-like system to make sure elderly with only daughters doesn't equal poverty, and of course continue to clamp down on the dowry problem at the same time.
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Postby Saiwania » Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:05 am

In most societies its males that're less valuable than women, and they're not wrong to think that in the sense that fewer men can still manage to impregnate lots of women but a population expansion simply can't happen if the reverse scenario is true where there is a severe shortage of men but a surplus of women.
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Postby Borinsa » Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:08 am

This is absolutely disgusting and heartbreaking.
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Postby Rio Cana » Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:09 am

Galloism wrote:
Samudera Darussalam wrote:......I'm going to believe that the Children of Men is ongoing, until I noticed the word "female foeticide".

I'm surprised that this is still a thing, but maybe I've yet to dig more.

It's perverse economics - India will continue to have this problem as long as they fail to have an elderly social safety net and the gendered expectation that boys will care for their parents.

Girls mean poverty to parents because Indian society results in parents paying dowrys for someone to care for their daughter as a wife (illegal, but still happens), and the daughter is not required to care for her parents in her old age.

Boys mean security to parents because Indian society results in boys receiving dowrys for someone to become their wife (illegal, but still happens), and the son is required to care for his parents in his old age.

India needs some type of social-security-like system to make sure elderly with only daughters doesn't equal poverty, and of course continue to clamp down on the dowry problem at the same time.


Checked and it does seem India has Social Security. But it seems it currently only covers 35 million workers out of a labor force of 400 million.
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Postby Temporarrium » Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:11 am

A huge change in culture would probably help.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:19 am

Rio Cana wrote:
Galloism wrote:It's perverse economics - India will continue to have this problem as long as they fail to have an elderly social safety net and the gendered expectation that boys will care for their parents.

Girls mean poverty to parents because Indian society results in parents paying dowrys for someone to care for their daughter as a wife (illegal, but still happens), and the daughter is not required to care for her parents in her old age.

Boys mean security to parents because Indian society results in boys receiving dowrys for someone to become their wife (illegal, but still happens), and the son is required to care for his parents in his old age.

India needs some type of social-security-like system to make sure elderly with only daughters doesn't equal poverty, and of course continue to clamp down on the dowry problem at the same time.


Checked and it does seem India has Social Security. But it seems it currently only covers 35 million workers out of a labor force of 400 million.
Read - https://www.india-briefing.com/news/int ... 6014.html/

I would be damn near certain that the majority of people in these particular villages don't fall under this program.
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Saiwania wrote:In most societies its males that're less valuable than women, and they're not wrong to think that in the sense that fewer men can still manage to impregnate lots of women but a population expansion simply can't happen if the reverse scenario is true where there is a severe shortage of men but a surplus of women.

This is a problem because it's hurting the population, and we need more people. I'd solve it by banning abortion altogether, then seeing what happens.
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Some people just don’t value life.

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Tornado Queendom wrote:This is a problem because it's hurting the population, and we need more people. I'd solve it by banning abortion altogether, then seeing what happens.


India does not need more people, but it'd be destabilizing for them nonetheless if they have a surplus of men that're fated to be single and dissatisfied.

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Ifreann wrote:How can you possibly enforce a law against sex-selective abortion? All a person has to do is lie about why they're having an abortion.

I read that you can tell the sex of your fetus via ultrasound from 16-20 weeks on, so one easy way to enforce a law against sex-selective abortion would be to ban abortion after 16 weeks. It's barely rocket science.
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Tornado Queendom wrote:
Saiwania wrote:In most societies its males that're less valuable than women, and they're not wrong to think that in the sense that fewer men can still manage to impregnate lots of women but a population expansion simply can't happen if the reverse scenario is true where there is a severe shortage of men but a surplus of women.

This is a problem because it's hurting the population, and we need more people. I'd solve it by banning abortion altogether, then seeing what happens.

Honestly speaking, India has enough people already. I think it’s best that people ought to wear protection during their hanky panky business.

Perhaps they could deport them somewhere else for the sake of building other countries and societies?

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Bluelight-R006 wrote:Some people just don’t value life.

It’s time to stop playing your game of monopoly, India. Truly a heartbreaking and an act to abhor.


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Nakena wrote:
Bluelight-R006 wrote:Some people just don’t value life.

It’s time to stop playing your game of monopoly, India. Truly a heartbreaking and an act to abhor.


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Similarly, the 'One Child' policy in [mainland] China resulted in a disproportionately high number of families in which that one child was male...
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Much like china, give them 25 or so years, the tide will turn.
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Bluelight-R006 wrote:Perhaps they could deport them somewhere else for the sake of building other countries and societies?


India's people overall, are too dark in complexion to serve this purpose for most developed countries. It'd be bad if the Indians cause the lighter skin colors to darken in future generations. If a majority brown country has a shortage of men however, they should be sent there instead. Whatever results in more racially homogenous countries is more good in my eyes.

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Saiwania wrote:
Bluelight-R006 wrote:Perhaps they could deport them somewhere else for the sake of building other countries and societies?


India's people overall, are too dark in complexion to serve this purpose for most developed countries. It'd be bad if the Indians cause the lighter skin colors to darken in future generations. If a majority brown country has a shortage of men however, they should be sent there instead. Whatever results in more racially homogenous countries is more good in my eyes.

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