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Brisbane's Anti-Adani Protestors Glued to street...Again

Postby Australian rePublic » Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:19 am

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/nation ... 5278d.html

https://www.news.com.au/technology/envi ... 67e3a08388

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-11/ ... c/11298146

I'm sorry, I could only find one non-paywall article from today's protest, but have made up for it with articles from other protestors

So, apparently the in-fashion method of protesting climate change in Brisbane is to glue yourself to Queen St, one the city's busiest thoroughfare and disrupt morning peak hour traffic. It's happened multiple times before, and, according to the group/s who run these protests, it will happen again in the future.

Today's protest was against the Adani Coal Mine in Central Queensland

Frustrated commuters in Brisbane were screaming "Why don't you get a job" and had to be removed by police. Today's protestors face arrest.

Okay, so here's my opinion on things:
"Why don't you get a job" is a very idiotic comment- How do you know that these people don't have jobs. Not commuting to work on Monday=/=not having a job. They could be shift workers. Or on annual leave. They might even work from home. Also, they might have other reasons for not being at work, e.g. they might be carers for disabled people. Whilst, in the heat of the moment of being stuck in the chaos isn't exactly a time for people to think these things through, the commenters who weren't there and thus read these things from secondary sources that should consider these things. Anyways /tangent. Now to the main topic: (Don't worry folks, my rant is just beginning)

Protestors who glue themselves to streets. As much as I disagree with your cause (and I strongly do), I believe you have every right to express yourself and to protest. It is your right, neigh, duty, as a free citizen to protest against unfairness, whether or not I agree with you. However, protesting is one thing, actively going out of your way to be a nuisance is a completely different thing all together. I mean, do you honestly expect people to take you seriously if you're going to actively go out of your way to make everyone else's life difficult? Supergluing ones self to the road is utterly stupid and selfish. And yes, I am well aware that helping the environment is a very non-selfish endeavour, and it changes nothing. Supergluing one's self to the road is a stupid and selfish act. How is it that such a large group is incapable of thinking of better methods of protesting that actively going out of their way to be public nuisances? And even if they can't, do they honestly think that being a public nuisance is going to win them any supporters? This is the bad kind of attention seeking, and it's really not gonna help their cause. F**k me dead. If anything, it will lose you any fence sitters or your even the weaker members of your supporter base.

Now, what I wanna know is this- how much planning do they put into this? Did they either bring food with them and/or eat enough before the protest to not require sustenance before hand? What about hydration? And in either case, what do they do when they need to use the toilet? It's not exactly like they can unglue themselves to go to the toilet, and no matter how much planning you do, it won't stop the invadable.

For the record I don't care about the fact that they're protesting, I only care about the fact that their actively going out of their way to be 1st degree public nuisances. And that applies to all protestors, whether I support or oppose their cause

Anyways, what's your take on all this, NSG?
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Postby Turbofolkia » Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:40 am

I think some of these protestors are quite tone-deaf in their methods, but I can't criticise what they're protesting about. Adani is such a con-job.

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Postby The Realm of Platinum » Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:45 am

Adani blyat! Blyat Adani cyka!
or that's what my bf would say

Couldn't they heroically throw Molotovs into Adani property?
That's what he has to say.

I think Adani is a bunch of ass-holes, but I don't agree with his violent methods.
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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:08 am

If I need to get to work on time, a crazy lunatic gluing himself to the street screaming about a coal mine as if it’s going to change things is inconvenient and annoying
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Postby Australian rePublic » Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:13 am

The Realm of Platinum wrote:Adani blyat! Blyat Adani cyka!
or that's what my bf would say

Couldn't they heroically throw Molotovs into Adani property?
That's what he has to say.

I think Adani is a bunch of ass-holes, but I don't agree with his violent methods.

Okay, except this thread isn't about killing innocent workers who don't make decisions on behalf of the company, it's about people gluing themselves to the street as form of protest against Adani

Aureumterra wrote:If I need to get to work on time, a crazy lunatic gluing himself to the street screaming about a coal mine as if it’s going to change things is inconvenient and annoying

Which is exactly my point about deterring their supporters. Not just work. I'm sure you'd feel the same if you were late for school, a flight, doctor's appointment, etc.
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Postby The Realm of Platinum » Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:26 am

Australian rePublic wrote:
The Realm of Platinum wrote:Adani blyat! Blyat Adani cyka!
or that's what my bf would say

Couldn't they heroically throw Molotovs into Adani property?
That's what he has to say.

I think Adani is a bunch of ass-holes, but I don't agree with his violent methods.

Okay, except this thread isn't about killing innocent workers who don't make decisions on behalf of the company, it's about people gluing themselves to the street as form of protest against Adani

Aureumterra wrote:If I need to get to work on time, a crazy lunatic gluing himself to the street screaming about a coal mine as if it’s going to change things is inconvenient and annoying

Which is exactly my point about deterring their supporters. Not just work. I'm sure you'd feel the same if you were late for school, a flight, doctor's appointment, etc.

He's a drunk, I know.
But can't they just protest elsewhere? Like an Adani place maybe?

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Postby Abarri » Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:45 am

The Realm of Platinum wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Okay, except this thread isn't about killing innocent workers who don't make decisions on behalf of the company, it's about people gluing themselves to the street as form of protest against Adani


Which is exactly my point about deterring their supporters. Not just work. I'm sure you'd feel the same if you were late for school, a flight, doctor's appointment, etc.

He's a drunk, I know.
But can't they just protest elsewhere? Like an Adani place maybe?

That's not really surprising given that they want to be heard. That's what protestors are looking for, right? Drawing attention towards an issue?
Unfortunately it is inconveniencing commuters.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:59 am

Abarri wrote:
The Realm of Platinum wrote:He's a drunk, I know.
But can't they just protest elsewhere? Like an Adani place maybe?

That's not really surprising given that they want to be heard. That's what protestors are looking for, right? Drawing attention towards an issue?
Unfortunately it is inconveniencing commuters.

But there are ways to draw attention to one's self without being a public menace.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:41 am

If they arn't hurting anyone, then the protest is peaceful and should have every right to continue.
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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:If they arn't hurting anyone, then the protest is peaceful and should have every right to continue.

They're blocking public traffic in the city's downtown area's primary street during rush hour. Whilst that isn't technically physical violence, they're shutting down the entire city and causing desruptions everywhere. The Ontario, Canada, equivilant would be gluing one's self to the downtown portion of Yonge Street, Toronto, during morning rush hour. Whilst it isn't hurting anyone, it is causing disruption to everyone and everything.
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So what is the deal with the coal mine?
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Loben The 2nd wrote:So what is the deal with the coal mine?

They're building a coal mine and environmentalists don't like it
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I live in Brisbane and I learned about this on NS lol.
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East Meranopirus wrote:I live in Brisbane and I learned about this on NS lol.

What? Weren't you impacted by the traffic?
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Australian rePublic wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:So what is the deal with the coal mine?

They're building a coal mine and environmentalists don't like it


Nice of you to totally ignore the fact that it isn't just the environmentalists who are against it, but the traditional owners who fear it will destroy a sacred wetland.
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Protesting is all well and good but gluing yourself to the street in a busy part of the city is just a dick move.

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Protestors who glue themselves to streets. As much as I disagree with your cause (and I strongly do), I believe you have every right to express yourself and to protest. It is your right, neigh, duty, as a free citizen to protest against unfairness, whether or not I agree with you. However, protesting is one thing, actively going out of your way to be a nuisance is a completely different thing all together. I mean, do you honestly expect people to take you seriously if you're going to actively go out of your way to make everyone else's life difficult? Supergluing ones self to the road is utterly stupid and selfish. And yes, I am well aware that helping the environment is a very non-selfish endeavour, and it changes nothing. Supergluing one's self to the road is a stupid and selfish act. How is it that such a large group is incapable of thinking of better methods of protesting that actively going out of their way to be public nuisances? And even if they can't, do they honestly think that being a public nuisance is going to win them any supporters? This is the bad kind of attention seeking, and it's really not gonna help their cause. F**k me dead. If anything, it will lose you any fence sitters or your even the weaker members of your supporter base.


A protest is useless if it's not disruptive.

Loben The 2nd wrote:So what is the deal with the coal mine?


It's a coal mine. It burns a finite resource for energy, which unleashes carcinogenic, toxic and radioactive materials that can poison the environment, either temporarily or semi-permanently. Moreover, Australia's government is a loyal puppy to the coal industry and it's only natural that people don't like that. Keep in mind that Australia is going to be devastated by climate change in the following decades. It may be somewhat uninhabitable by the end of the century.
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Postby Nakena » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:03 am

Australian rePublic wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:So what is the deal with the coal mine?

They're building a coal mine and environmentalists don't like it


They should put them to work in the coal mine once it's finished. That'd teach them. I bet they're all students of gender studies and similar nuanced nonsenses and do-no-gooders with no job perspective anyways. So you'd do em something good as well.

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Barunia wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:They're building a coal mine and environmentalists don't like it


Nice of you to totally ignore the fact that it isn't just the environmentalists who are against it, but the traditional owners who fear it will destroy a sacred wetland.

Really? well that's news to me. Makes sense. Still doesn't justify being a pest, though
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Postby Turbofolkia » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:04 am

Loben The 2nd wrote:So what is the deal with the coal mine?

"Hey let's destroy the Great Barrier Reef and an industry that supports over 60,000 jobs for some Indian-run mine that will provide bugger all jobs and represents a dying industry".

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Australian rePublic wrote:
Protestors who glue themselves to streets. As much as I disagree with your cause (and I strongly do), I believe you have every right to express yourself and to protest. It is your right, neigh, duty, as a free citizen to protest against unfairness, whether or not I agree with you. However, protesting is one thing, actively going out of your way to be a nuisance is a completely different thing all together. I mean, do you honestly expect people to take you seriously if you're going to actively go out of your way to make everyone else's life difficult? Supergluing ones self to the road is utterly stupid and selfish. And yes, I am well aware that helping the environment is a very non-selfish endeavour, and it changes nothing. Supergluing one's self to the road is a stupid and selfish act. How is it that such a large group is incapable of thinking of better methods of protesting that actively going out of their way to be public nuisances? And even if they can't, do they honestly think that being a public nuisance is going to win them any supporters? This is the bad kind of attention seeking, and it's really not gonna help their cause. F**k me dead. If anything, it will lose you any fence sitters or your even the weaker members of your supporter base.


A protest is useless if it's not disruptive.

Loben The 2nd wrote:So what is the deal with the coal mine?


It's a coal mine. It burns a finite resource of energy, which unleashes carcinogenic, toxic and radioactive materials that can poison the environment, either temporarily or semi-permanently. Moreover, Australia's government is a loyal puppy to the coal industry and it's only natural that people don't like that. Keep in mind that Australia is going to be devastated by climate change in the following decades. It may be somewhat uninhabitable by the end of the century.

It’s worse than useless if it ends up turning people against your cause, though.

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Postby Costa Fierro » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:04 am

Barunia wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:They're building a coal mine and environmentalists don't like it


Nice of you to totally ignore the fact that it isn't just the environmentalists who are against it, but the traditional owners who fear it will destroy a sacred wetland.


Or the fact that the very last thing the world needs is more coal.

But this is Queensland, aborigines and environment be damned! Rio Tinto needs to make more money!
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Australian rePublic wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:So what is the deal with the coal mine?

They're building a coal mine and environmentalists don't like it

Anyone with any economic sense also does not like it. Name one single reason why this is a good idea, besides siphoning money into the pockets of Indian oligarchs and their mates in Liberal party.

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Postby -Ocelot- » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:09 am

Ors Might wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:
A protest is useless if it's not disruptive.



It's a coal mine. It burns a finite resource of energy, which unleashes carcinogenic, toxic and radioactive materials that can poison the environment, either temporarily or semi-permanently. Moreover, Australia's government is a loyal puppy to the coal industry and it's only natural that people don't like that. Keep in mind that Australia is going to be devastated by climate change in the following decades. It may be somewhat uninhabitable by the end of the century.

It’s worse than useless if it ends up turning people against your cause, though.


That's a good point but we already know of the alternative. In some un-democratic nations, protests are allowed but you have to a) Get a license and b) Protest in a designated area. So that your protest can be ignored by pretty much everyone. I'd rather have trouble going to my job and knowing that people can protest freely than living in a nation where laws make protesting a joke.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:11 am

-Ocelot- wrote:
Ors Might wrote:It’s worse than useless if it ends up turning people against your cause, though.


That's a good point but we already know of the alternative. In some un-democratic nations, protests are allowed but you have to a) Get a license and b) Protest in a designated area. So that your protest can be ignored by pretty much everyone. I'd rather have trouble going to my job and knowing that people can protest freely than living in a nation where laws make protesting a joke.


Undemocratic nations don't allow people to protest. Those that do go for extended vacations, or get free rides in a helicopter.
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