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Postby Fascist Soyouso » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:24 am

I don't usually make OPs, so I hope this isn't a bad one.
Amnesty International:

Fears are growing for the safety and wellbeing of Malak al-Kashef, a transgender woman seized during a police raid from her home in Giza in the early hours of 6 March and who has not been heard from since, Amnesty International said.

Malak al-Kashef was taken by police to an undisclosed location. Her lawyers have not been able to locate her and police stations have denied she is in their custody.

“There are real fears for the physical safety and psychological wellbeing of Malak al-Kashef. Egyptian authorities have a horrific track record of persecuting people based on their sexual orientation and gender identity, including through carrying out forced anal examinations which amount to torture,” said Magdalena Mughrabi, Deputy Middle East and North Africa Director at Amnesty International.

Amnesty International believes that Malak’s arrest relates to her calls for peaceful protests following a major train crash in Cairo’s central train station on 27 February that killed at least 25 people.

“Malak al-Kashef appears to have been detained solely for peacefully exercising her rights to freedom of expression and peaceful assembly. Instead of holding her in an undisclosed location, the authorities should release her immediately and unconditionally,” said Magdalena Mughrabi.

“Due to her gender identity, Malak is at increased risk of torture by the police, including rape and sexual violence, as well as assault by other detainees. The Egyptian authorities are responsible for her physical and psychological safety. They must immediately reveal her whereabouts, and pending her immediate and unconditional release, ensure that she is protected from torture and other abuses.”

Dozens of people have been arrested in recent days over anti-government protests relating to last week’s train crash that killed at least 25 people and injured many others. At least 32 people remain in pre-trial detention over unfounded charges relating to the peaceful expression of their opinions.

Malak al-Kashef is a transgender woman who is undergoing gender affirming surgery. However, she has not yet managed to have her gender identity officially recognized and is therefore registered as male in official documents. Her lawyers have sent appeals to the office of the Public Prosecutor and the Minister of Interior asking about her whereabouts.

In recent years, Egypt’s authorities have waged a sinister campaign targeting LGBTI people and carried out dozens of arrests and forced anal examinations in blatant violation of international law.

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On 7 March Malak al-Kashef appeared in front of a Supreme State Security Prosecutor, who ordered her detention for 15 days pending investigations for “aiding a terrorist organization” and “misusing social media to commit a crime punishable by law”. The police then took her to an undisclosed location, where they detained her incommunicado until 10 March, when her lawyer was able to confirm that the police is detaining her in solitary confinement at al-Haram police station in Giza. Her detention is up for renewal again on 19 March, when the prosecutor will decide whether to release her or extend her detention.

"Egypt: Forcibly disappeared transgender woman at risk of sexual violence and torture"

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This is absolutely disgusting. Not only is she being arrested for something that shouldn't even be illegal period, but now they want to imprison her with men knowing how much of a living hell it is for trans women in male prisons, which they shouldn't even be doing in the first place since they're not men. It's clear what's going to happen if they put her in gen pop. This definitely needs more attention.

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Postby Al Mumtahanah » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:36 am

Sunnis don't recognize sex change and gender-mixing is not allowed in Islam.

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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:39 am

Fascist Soyouso wrote:
[...] when her lawyer was able to confirm that the police is detaining her in solitary confinement at al-Haram police station in Giza. [...]

This is the only thing that is keeping this situation from being far worse than it already is. Mind you, it is still no guarantee, as even the guards in Egyptian prisons aren't known for their tolerance...
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Postby Nakena » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:46 am

Egypt is a awful nasty place those days. Argueably worse than some other countries in the region.

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Postby Fascist Soyouso » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:48 am

Al Mumtahanah wrote:Sunnis don't recognize sex change and gender-mixing is not allowed in Islam.
Any kind of religious views do not stop her from
a) Being a woman.
b) Being a living target for sexual and physical abuse, the former of which she has already faced.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:52 am

Middle eastern country does (a) shitty thing(s) to LGBT person(s). In other news, grass is green.

Horrible, sadly not unexpected. Egypt keeps this up we might just have to resurrect Julius Caesar to Make Egypt Roman Again.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:53 am

Al Mumtahanah wrote:Sunnis don't recognize sex change and gender-mixing is not allowed in Islam.

Even if this sentence had any information of importance to deliver, which it hasn’t, then even under your rules should she be in a female prison.
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Postby Nakena » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:54 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Middle eastern country does (a) shitty thing(s) to LGBT person(s). In other news, grass is green.

Horrible, sadly not unexpected. Egypt keeps this up we might just have to resurrect Julius Caesar to Make Egypt Roman Again.


Its quite a shame what it has become those days from a once great culture. This is the final result of total cultural decay.

Alexander, Caesar and Cleopatra would all rotate in their graves.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:55 am

The laws about the men's prison are disturbing, but she wasn't targeted for being LGBT or anything, as the article says, she was arrested for calling for protests, and 25 other people have also been arrested for doing so.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:58 am

Nakena wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Middle eastern country does (a) shitty thing(s) to LGBT person(s). In other news, grass is green.

Horrible, sadly not unexpected. Egypt keeps this up we might just have to resurrect Julius Caesar to Make Egypt Roman Again.


Its quite a shame what it has become those days from a once great culture. This is the final result of total cultural decay.

Alexander, Caesar and Cleopatra would all rotate in their graves.

Oh, please. Don’t turn this into some pseudo-fascist wet dream. Caesar was a power-hungry traitor to the republic, Alexander massacred cities and thought he was a god, created a system that lasted all of three seconds after his desth, and Cleopatra was the result of generations of sibling incest who had her brother strangled for power. They truly are the pinnacles of culture.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:59 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:The laws about the men's prison are disturbing, but she wasn't targeted for being LGBT or anything, as the article says, she was arrested for calling for protests, and 25 other people have also been arrested for doing so.

Calling for protests is okay and should not result in a prison sentence.

Also, the application of laws can be discriminatory even if the laws themselves are not.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:59 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:The laws about the men's prison are disturbing, but she wasn't targeted for being LGBT or anything, as the article says, she was arrested for calling for protests, and 25 other people have also been arrested for doing so.


That is still not a good reason to arrest someone. People have the right to protest.
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Postby Al Mumtahanah » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:00 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Al Mumtahanah wrote:Sunnis don't recognize sex change and gender-mixing is not allowed in Islam.

Even if this sentence had any information of importance to deliver, which it hasn’t, then even under your rules should she be in a female prison.

Sunni Islam does not recognize sex change.

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:00 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:The laws about the men's prison are disturbing, but she wasn't targeted for being LGBT or anything, as the article says, she was arrested for calling for protests, and 25 other people have also been arrested for doing so.


That is still not a good reason to arrest someone. People have the right to protest.

I'm sure the Egyptian government, which has been toppled by protests twice in the past 10 years, will recognize such right. :roll:
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:01 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
That is still not a good reason to arrest someone. People have the right to protest.

I'm sure the Egyptian government, which has been toppled by protests twice in the past 10 years, will recognize such right. :roll:


They should.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:02 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
That is still not a good reason to arrest someone. People have the right to protest.

I'm sure the Egyptian government, which has been toppled by protests twice in the past 10 years, will recognize such right. :roll:

Toppled by coups. With guns and helicopters.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:02 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I'm sure the Egyptian government, which has been toppled by protests twice in the past 10 years, will recognize such right. :roll:


They should.

Then they might be toppled again and they'd be back at square 1. It's an unstable country with a military dictatorship, don't expect much out of it.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:02 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I'm sure the Egyptian government, which has been toppled by protests twice in the past 10 years, will recognize such right. :roll:

Toppled by coups. With guns and helicopters.

The coups were started by peaceful protesters who then called on the army to intervene.
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Postby Fascist Soyouso » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:03 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:The laws about the men's prison are disturbing, but she wasn't targeted for being LGBT or anything, as the article says, she was arrested for calling for protests, and 25 other people have also been arrested for doing so.
Well yeah. Doesn't mean she won't and hasn't already faced abuse for being transgender.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:04 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Toppled by coups. With guns and helicopters.

The coups were started by peaceful protesters who then called on the army to intervene.

The protests were started by a violent military government. So, ban violent military governments because they lead to protests which lead to coups. Or ban calling for coups. Just don’t ban peaceful protests.

Besides, Egypt’s recognition is not required.
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Postby Ruffletrump » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:04 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
They should.

Then they might be toppled again and they'd be back at square 1. It's an unstable country with a military dictatorship, don't expect much out of it.


It's possible that Sisi will be toppled, but it's somewhat likely that he may be able to hold onto power for some time.

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Postby Nakena » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:05 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Its quite a shame what it has become those days from a once great culture. This is the final result of total cultural decay.

Alexander, Caesar and Cleopatra would all rotate in their graves.

Oh, please. Don’t turn this into some pseudo-fascist wet dream. Caesar was a power-hungry traitor to the republic, Alexander massacred cities and thought he was a god, created a system that lasted all of three seconds after his desth, and Cleopatra was the result of generations of sibling incest who had her brother strangled for power. They truly are the pinnacles of culture.


Truly, this is the most through plejebian rant I have ever encountered in those halls.

Impressive.

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Postby Domina Nostra Nova Terra » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:05 am

I am completely antithetical to transgenderism and its ideas but subjecting someone to unjust conditions like that (with a large chance of rape and other violence) is utterly inhumane.
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Postby Al Mumtahanah » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:06 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:The coups were started by peaceful protesters who then called on the army to intervene.

The protests were started by a violent military government. So, ban violent military governments because they lead to protests which lead to coups. Or ban calling for coups. Just don’t ban peaceful protests.

Besides, Egypt’s recognition is not required.

I myself would prefer the government go back to being ruled by the Muslim Brotherhood, which was democratically elected, the only democratically elected government in the history of Egypt.

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:07 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:The coups were started by peaceful protesters who then called on the army to intervene.

The protests were started by a violent military government. So, ban violent military governments because they lead to protests which lead to coups. Or ban calling for coups. Just don’t ban peaceful protests.

Besides, Egypt’s recognition is not required.

Yes, actually, Egypt's recognition is required, it is their country, after all. Large scale protests in unstable countries are dangerous, and democracy is unworkable in Egypt.
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