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Great Sheriffdom
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I want to become left-wing utopia.

Postby Great Sheriffdom » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:01 am

Hello!

I'm a little dissatisfied with my nation. I like my nation's constitutional monarchy and socialism very much. But the government is small, civil rights are low, and the government is badly corrupt.

On some issues, I accidentally picked an option to increase political freedom by increasing corruption. I don't know how to increase civil rights, and if I increase civil rights, I'm afraid crimes will increase. Still, I want to make drugs illegal. and Would raising the income tax rate to 100% benefit the government?

How much time do I need to get large government and high civil rights and integrity and political freedom in my nation? I want to make left-wing utopia!

What issues should wait for in this situation?
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Postby SherpDaWerp » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:15 pm

The classifications can best be summarized by this image. To be a left-wing utopia, you need to have not much economic freedom (so high taxes), but high personal and political freedom. (so you can do whatever).

With Socialism, there's not much economic freedom, so that's good. You do need to increase civil rights and political freedom though. Looking through your policies, mandatory sex education and mandatory organ harvesting would definitely decrease civil rights, as would DNA harvesting and ID chips. For political freedom, the easiest way to increase that would be to get rid of the monarchy and institute full democracy, but you don't want that to happen so go figure.

If you really want to know, Trotterdam maintains this index of all the stat changes that an issue will give your nation. IMO it's kinda cheating, but if you want to use it, you do you.
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Greater Azekistan
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Postby Greater Azekistan » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:54 pm

nonononononono sherp don't post that nono

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Postby Borovan entered the region as he » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:58 pm

Hallo if u want u need hi civil rites and political feedum and low economy
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Postby Greater Korean Juche Republic » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:01 pm

Great Sheriffdom wrote:Hello!

I'm a little dissatisfied with my nation. I like my nation's constitutional monarchy and socialism very much. But the government is small, civil rights are low, and the government is badly corrupt.

On some issues, I accidentally picked an option to increase political freedom by increasing corruption. I don't know how to increase civil rights, and if I increase civil rights, I'm afraid crimes will increase. Still, I want to make drugs illegal. and Would raising the income tax rate to 100% benefit the government?

How much time do I need to get large government and high civil rights and integrity and political freedom in my nation? I want to make left-wing utopia!

What issues should wait for in this situation?


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Great Sheriffdom
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Postby Great Sheriffdom » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:04 pm

SherpDaWerp wrote:The classifications can best be summarized by this image. To be a left-wing utopia, you need to have not much economic freedom (so high taxes), but high personal and political freedom. (so you can do whatever).

With Socialism, there's not much economic freedom, so that's good. You do need to increase civil rights and political freedom though. Looking through your policies, mandatory sex education and mandatory organ harvesting would definitely decrease civil rights, as would DNA harvesting and ID chips. For political freedom, the easiest way to increase that would be to get rid of the monarchy and institute full democracy, but you don't want that to happen so go figure.

If you really want to know, Trotterdam maintains this index of all the stat changes that an issue will give your nation. IMO it's kinda cheating, but if you want to use it, you do you.


But I chose to maintain the ID chip policy on the only issue that could eliminate the ID chip policy without banning computers, and I chose that I would maintain conscription on all issues that could abolish the conscription. (Maybe so)

Would it affect the law enforcement budget if i removed the policy of ID chips, DNA harvests, etc.? I want to increase civil rights while maintaining the law enforcement budget.

And how long does it usually take for a past issues to come back? (If I only answer the issue on the weekends.)
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Postby Auzkhia » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:06 pm

I've gotten to that by outlawing private businesses. Or else I was a civil rights love fest.
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Postby Suzuland » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:17 pm

SherpDaWerp wrote:The classifications can best be summarized by this image. To be a left-wing utopia, you need to have not much economic freedom (so high taxes), but high personal and political freedom. (so you can do whatever).

With Socialism, there's not much economic freedom, so that's good. You do need to increase civil rights and political freedom though. Looking through your policies, mandatory sex education and mandatory organ harvesting would definitely decrease civil rights, as would DNA harvesting and ID chips. For political freedom, the easiest way to increase that would be to get rid of the monarchy and institute full democracy, but you don't want that to happen so go figure.

If you really want to know, Trotterdam maintains this index of all the stat changes that an issue will give your nation. IMO it's kinda cheating, but if you want to use it, you do you.

Much thanks from Suzuland!! ;)

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Postby SherpDaWerp » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:17 pm

Great Sheriffdom wrote:But I chose to maintain the ID chip policy on the only issue that could eliminate the ID chip policy without banning computers, and I chose that I would maintain conscription on all issues that could abolish the conscription. (Maybe so)

Would it affect the law enforcement budget if i removed the policy of ID chips, DNA harvests, etc.? I want to increase civil rights while maintaining the law enforcement budget.

And how long does it usually take for a past issues to come back? (If I only answer the issue on the weekends.)


There are other issues that get rid of ID chips without removing computers altogether, you just need to wait for them to come around. It shouldn't drastically reduce your law enforcement budget to get rid of DNA harvesting and ID chips, but even if it does, other issues can bring it back up again without those two policies.

How long issues take to come back around depends on RNGesus and how often you answer issues. Answering 5-10 issues per week (as you would be doing, answering only on weekends), taking into account the 1200ish issues that are in the game, means it might take a while.
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Mexican Liberation
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Mexican Liberation » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:37 pm

Great Sheriffdom wrote:Hello!

I'm a little dissatisfied with my nation. I like my nation's constitutional monarchy and socialism very much. But the government is small, civil rights are low, and the government is badly corrupt.

On some issues, I accidentally picked an option to increase political freedom by increasing corruption. I don't know how to increase civil rights, and if I increase civil rights, I'm afraid crimes will increase. Still, I want to make drugs illegal. and Would raising the income tax rate to 100% benefit the government?

How much time do I need to get large government and high civil rights and integrity and political freedom in my nation? I want to make left-wing utopia!

What issues should wait for in this situation?


To get Left-wing utopia, you have to pick the most progressive options all the time, except for the ones that obviously reduce civil rights, e.g. banning offensive speech, banning anything in general etc., on those issues I just dismiss because the other options are worse. You pretty much have to be like a hippie and just let them do literally anything they want good or bad and leaving them alone, except for business, that must always be regulated.

Not giving a damn about taxes definitely helps, so you spend as much money as you can on welfare, healthcare, and education. Crime will slowly go away, even if you have no Law Enforcement. Some policies are hard to keep with some classifications, because it doesn't make sense, e.g. psychotic dictatorship where everyone is oppressed but you're free to use cannabis, corporate police state with universal healthcare etc. You might have to get rid of some of the policies that you want. ID Chips and conscription reduce civil rights by a huge amount, but banning drugs not too much.

Your corruption went up by a lot because your nation is still young and your classifications can change a lot. After answering issues the same way for a while, your nation settles on a ballpark for what it will be and the effects won't be so drastic. It's like your nation establishing its identity. Then you do a 180 and suddenly the effects go up by a lot again because its like an identity crisis/government change

Issues come back at random, could get it again tomorrow, in a week, months, or never again. What issues you get depends on your classification, so definitely helps to choose the same option if you're at the one you want to be. I've been answering issues for a long time, but I still like to use the site that Sherp linked, even if it's technically cheating. Before that I just had to guess and hope it didn't mess me up too much if I chose wrong.
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Postby Trotterdam » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:43 pm

Mexican Liberation wrote:Some policies are hard to keep with some classifications, because it doesn't make sense, e.g. psychotic dictatorship where everyone is oppressed but you're free to use cannabis, corporate police state with universal healthcare etc. You might have to get rid of some of the policies that you want.
Most single policies don't have a big enough effect to rule out any particular category - they might make it harder to reach, but not impossible. However, if you have many policies that contradict your desired category, you're probably going to need to sacrifice some of them, so you need to think about which are the most important to you.

On Great Sheriffdom, I count five policies that would hurt Civil Rights: Compulsory Organ Harvesting, No Smoking, Conscription, DNA Harvesting, and ID Chips. (Contrary to what SherpDaWerp said, Sex Education does not appear to be one of them. I checked, and most options that grant Sex Education raise Civil Rights and most options that remove Sex Education lower Civil Rights, though there are a couple of exceptions.) The highest Civil Rights I can find of any nation that has all five policies is 71.95 (on Syerstala Sule), which falls just barely short of the amount needed for Left-wing Utopia (you need strictly more than 72 for that) - although Syerstala Sule also has other anti-Civil-Rights policies such as No Sex and No Sports, so I guess it should be theoretically possible to reach 72 with just the first five policies, just very, very hard. Besides, a combination of any five policies is pretty rare to begin with - when I query for nations that have only four of the five policies, I see Civil Rights as high as 83.85.

Of course, you should also consider how much you actually want to be a Left-wing Utopia. If you genuinely believe in all of those policies, then maybe Left-wing Utopianism isn't for you.

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Great Sheriffdom
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Postby Great Sheriffdom » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:36 pm

Thank you very much, but I have another question.

By allowing the free press, the rudeness will be raised, and I want to lower it while allowing the free press. Is there any special way?

(exemple : Burlingtonland, Territorio di Nessuno. Both are left-wing utopia nation.)
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Postby Trotterdam » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:41 pm

Rudeness is affected by a very large number of issues. There aren't really any specific issues to look out for, just check what the effects are on any issue that you end up getting.

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Postby SherpDaWerp » Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:34 pm

Trotterdam wrote:Contrary to what SherpDaWerp said, Sex Education does not appear to be one of them.

Huh. I would have thought the mandatory part of the sex education bit would decrease civil rights. Good to know!
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I have the No Sex policy. For clarification: recreational sex is allowed, just not reproductive sex.
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