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What percentage of teenagers and adults do you think would try the museum AT LEAST ONCE?

Close to 0%
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26%
Close to 10%
12
17%
Close to 25%
23
32%
Close to 50%
9
13%
Close to 75%
5
7%
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4
6%
 
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Postby Kannap » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:45 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
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Conversion therapy is still a big deal, but I agree Christians shouldn't torture others. Unfortunately, not everybody believes that.


Isn't the whole idea of the religion that if you don't accept jesus, you'll burn forever?


Hell was just Jerusalem's garbage dump, so unless we're all going to the trash pile I dunno.
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Postby Kuominwave » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:49 pm

$100 is too expensive for 5 minutes, I can use the money for more practical purposes in life. If it were free however...
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Postby Raptcentia » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:51 pm

i think some people will at least try this once. Maybe they had some kind of relation somebody the murderer killed. Maybe they come for the experience. Maybe they went so they could see this awful person suffer. Maybe for the shock value. Maybe for the dimensional gift shop. So I'd say a quarter of people would go. As for me, I don't have the cash.

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Postby Geneviev » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:29 pm

Kowani wrote:
Geneviev wrote:This isn't about the Christian God, since he does things very differently. Besides, Christians shouldn't torture others, so this would be worse for them.

That’s true, instead of shocks, he uses fire.

Exactly.

Kannap wrote:
Geneviev wrote:This isn't about the Christian God, since he does things very differently. Besides, Christians shouldn't torture others, so this would be worse for them.


Conversion therapy is still a big deal, but I agree Christians shouldn't torture others. Unfortunately, not everybody believes that.

Those who don't believe that aren't Christian.
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Postby Dylar » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:55 pm

My only question is, what's a God going to do with 100 dollars?
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Postby Heloin » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:16 pm

Dylar wrote:My only question is, what's a God going to do with 100 dollars?

Buy 33 cups if coffee.
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Postby Pacomia » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:19 pm

Heloin wrote:
Dylar wrote:My only question is, what's a God going to do with 100 dollars?

Buy 33 cups if coffee.

Give them to Satan
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Postby ECKU » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:41 pm

You just described Jahannam (Hell). Why not just ask us what we think of Jahannam, IM?
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Postby Bluelight-R006 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:45 pm

ECKU wrote:You just described Jahannam (Hell). Why not just ask us what we think of Jahannam, IM?

Because it’s a hypothetical scenario that is closer to our emotional feelings. We can sense if we want to do this to another person, who did to us something bad. Hell is vague and has different concepts.

I think it’s funny how some people would want to try this, paying $100 for 5 minutes of ‘fun.’

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Postby ECKU » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:47 pm

Bluelight-R006 wrote:
ECKU wrote:You just described Jahannam (Hell). Why not just ask us what we think of Jahannam, IM?

Because it’s a hypothetical scenario that is closer to our emotional feelings. We can sense if we want to do this to another person, who did to us something bad. Hell is vague and has different concepts.

I think it’s funny how some people would want to try this, paying $100 for 5 minutes of ‘fun.’

Since when was Jahannam vague?
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Postby Bluelight-R006 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:51 pm

ECKU wrote:
Bluelight-R006 wrote:Because it’s a hypothetical scenario that is closer to our emotional feelings. We can sense if we want to do this to another person, who did to us something bad. Hell is vague and has different concepts.

I think it’s funny how some people would want to try this, paying $100 for 5 minutes of ‘fun.’

Since when was Jahannam vague?

Since the time it was ever thought of. There are many concepts of hell. Some believe that you go to hell for eternal suffering, burning in fire, and others believe you’re just stuck there forever in eternal discomfort, not necessarily dying.

Also, the point of this scenario was to see from different perspectives how many people would we think go and give to this murderer a taste of his/her own medicine, or how many would prefer to waste money on such an act. Talking about hell would be asking people if they believed in it, or think what it looks like, which is completely different from what we’re supposed to be discussing.

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Postby La Paz de Los Ricos » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:09 pm

Raptcentia wrote:i think some people will at least try this once. Maybe they had some kind of relation somebody the murderer killed. Maybe they come for the experience. Maybe they went so they could see this awful person suffer. Maybe for the shock value. Maybe for the dimensional gift shop. So I'd say a quarter of people would go. As for me, I don't have the cash.


Yeah, they may have an unbearable, all-consuming desire for terrible vengeance against this HORRID and criminal...

Or they just wanna try the incredible slushies that they sell there. Either way, they're goin'.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:36 pm

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:38 pm

Kannap wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Isn't the whole idea of the religion that if you don't accept jesus, you'll burn forever?


Hell was just Jerusalem's garbage dump, so unless we're all going to the trash pile I dunno.

Hell is other people, so at least we'll have company.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:43 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Hell was just Jerusalem's garbage dump, so unless we're all going to the trash pile I dunno.

Hell is other people, so at least we'll have company.


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Postby Purpelia » Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:06 am

Geneviev wrote:This isn't about the Christian God, since he does things very differently. Besides, Christians shouldn't torture others, so this would be worse for them.

It is my understanding that Christianity is one of those ideologies that says "The government/big guy is evil so we can be good." They don't murder, torture and send people to an eternity of suffering. God does that. Big difference. It's sort of like living under an evil dictatorship. If you worship the dear leader and do exactly as he says he will reward you by NOT throwing you into a lake of fire for all eternity. What a swell guy.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:23 am

Dylar wrote:My only question is, what's a God going to do with 100 dollars?


Pay off study debt.

How else do you think they'd get all knowing. That requires years of college. That isn't paying for itself.
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Postby Eastern Tatarstan » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:11 pm

Is the killer male or female?
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Postby Jean-Paul Sartre » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:12 pm

Eastern Tatarstan wrote:Is the killer male or female?

To make things interesting, non-binary.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:18 pm

Eastern Tatarstan wrote:Is the killer male or female?


Does it matter?
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Postby Geneviev » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:21 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Eastern Tatarstan wrote:Is the killer male or female?


Does it matter?

That's what I was wondering, too.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:46 pm

$100 for 5 minutes of time? Ya fuck that. Fuck the torture too.

And no I think very few of the people in the world would pay $100 to torture someone. $25 or less? Ya then you might have a good bit but not for $100
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:48 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:I question the motivations of an all-powerful god that decides to do such things.

He needs the cash to pay off his bookie ok.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:49 pm

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Bombadil wrote:You'd have to discount all the people who can't afford $100, I suspect that would wipe out a good 60-70% alone.


You'd be surprised.

The people who are struggling to make ends meet may be the ones with the MOST ANGER to vent. They might scrap the money together and do it at all cost.

Ya no. I’ve been in that position where I was struggling to make ends meet. If I had $100 lying around it would have gone to pay the bills not some torture chamber
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:52 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Free Joy State wrote:Well, taking into account that 70% of the world -- as Bombadil said -- earn less than $10 a day, and won't save, forgoing food and shelter in the process, for this kind of nonsense, there are very few people I can see actively seeking out chances to torture someone.

While people can behave cruelly in given circumstances (the whole "banality of evil" thing, and the point of the Milgram test -- although many participants showed reluctance, and attempts to repeat the test have shown poor replicability), I really doubt many people would deliberately seek opportunities to torture a human being.

I'd say only a few percent. Not even 10%; probably less than 5%. (taking into account both lack of affordability and that I don't see many people actively seeking out a human being to physically torture)


I hear that many of those who are poor spend a disproportionate amount of income (often unwise amounts) on alcohol, drugs, or cigarettes. And those things are not cheap.

Perhaps they'd see it fit to skip out on a bottle or two in exchange for an experience like this? A lot of them have a lot of hatred towards the system and their overlords. Here's a convenient person to take it out on...

what I mean is that even those of the lowest income have a way of somehow coming up with the money to feed their base desires

Oh look the rich guy thinks he knows how poor people live
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