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[Q] Longest ban ever?

Postby Agarntrop » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:35 am

I know this may seem like a trivial question, but simply what is the longest ban ever given to a nation in the history of NS forums without it extending to a DEAT?
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:00 pm

viewtopic.php?p=33880649#p33880649

One poster was permanently banned from the forum it looks like.

/not a mod.
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Postby Agarntrop » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:31 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=33880649#p33880649

One poster was permanently banned from the forum it looks like.

/not a mod.

I was looking for a specific time.

I also don't see why they use DEAT so often rather than that.
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Postby Katganistan » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:58 pm

Delete on sight is basically permaban.

That's what posters get when it's clear that the escalating warnings, bans and deletions don't get them to stop whatever problematic behaviors we have been trying to help them change.

There is a schedule, as it were, of corrections:

unofficial warnings -- aka knock it offs
official red-text warnings. They go *** Warned for $specific behavior in specific instance ***
Short term ban: 1 day
Short term ban: 3 day
Short term ban: 1 week
Ban: 3 weeks
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After a number of deletions, the DOS discussion begins, and if it's clear to the mod team that the player refuses to change, they are permanently disinvited rom the site.

However, the severity of the infraction, or a past history with other accounts, can get the chain of escalation jumped.
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Postby Xmara » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:55 pm

Apologies if this counts as spamming moderation, but what about IP banning? Is that a thing on here? Or is DOS the worst you can get?
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Postby Great Chosun » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:01 pm

Apologizes if counts as spam, but what about other cases that would have a history of communications getting revoked due to unsavoury circumstances at one instant.

What are the guidelines behind this? And how many times would one person whom continues such behaviour in order to receive it? Just curious.

Thanks.

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Postby NERVUN » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:05 pm

Xmara wrote:Apologies if this counts as spamming moderation, but what about IP banning? Is that a thing on here? Or is DOS the worst you can get?

We cannot comment on specific tools in our kits, but in general, DOS is just that. We see you, we delete you. We have multiple tools to check on people and IP is just one of them.
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Postby NERVUN » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:06 pm

Great Chosun wrote:Apologizes if counts as spam, but what about other cases that would have a history of communications getting revoked due to unsavoury circumstances at one instant.

What are the guidelines behind this? And how many times would one person whom continues such behaviour in order to receive it? Just curious.

Thanks.

It would depend on a number of factors so I don't really have an exact answer to your question. Regardless, unless time is of the essence, such revocations happen only after consultation with the group.
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Postby Newark Aristocracy » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:17 pm

What is the longest non Permanent ban ever handed out?
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Postby Kyrusia » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:24 pm

Newark Aristocracy wrote:What is the longest non Permanent ban ever handed out?

On the order of years, but it's non-punitive; we do this when we discover players to be under the age of 13. As the Terms & Conditions state, players must be at least 13 years of age to access the forums.
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Postby Newark Aristocracy » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:31 pm

What is the shortest DOS ever handed out?
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Postby Reploid Productions » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:43 pm

Newark Aristocracy wrote:What is the shortest DOS ever handed out?

Random Joe Summer Nazi or Random Joe Pornspammer, generally. There are a handful of infractions so severe that they qualify for instant-DOS status and coincidentally also tend to fall in the "contact law enforcement" category as well (for example: extremely violent/plausible threats, child porn, that sort of unpleasantness.)

Over the site's history there have been plenty of Random Joe Trolls who got to DOS instantly or within a day.
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Postby Imperial-Octavia » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:47 pm

I thought it was whenever the forums shutdown temporarily, they feel like you’ve been banned from El dorado.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:48 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Newark Aristocracy wrote:What is the shortest DOS ever handed out?

Random Joe Summer Nazi or Random Joe Pornspammer, generally. There are a handful of infractions so severe that they qualify for instant-DOS status and coincidentally also tend to fall in the "contact law enforcement" category as well (for example: extremely violent/plausible threats, child porn, that sort of unpleasantness.)

Over the site's history there have been plenty of Random Joe Trolls who got to DOS instantly or within a day.

Some people are sick. Especially those who posted child porn here.
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Postby Catsfern » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:52 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=33880649#p33880649

One poster was permanently banned from the forum it looks like.

/not a mod.


oh wow, has anyone else ever been pertinently banned like that?
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Postby Newark Aristocracy » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:52 pm

What about the shortest time as DOS Status?
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Postby Amuaplye » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:52 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:Random Joe Summer Nazi or Random Joe Pornspammer, generally. There are a handful of infractions so severe that they qualify for instant-DOS status and coincidentally also tend to fall in the "contact law enforcement" category as well (for example: extremely violent/plausible threats, child porn, that sort of unpleasantness.)

Over the site's history there have been plenty of Random Joe Trolls who got to DOS instantly or within a day.

Some people are sick. Especially those who posted child porn here.

There was a guy on another forum I'm in who did that. DMed it to the mods and several prominent members. Fortunately, it was a few years before I joined, so I never had to deal with that.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:54 pm

Catsfern wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=33880649#p33880649

One poster was permanently banned from the forum it looks like.

/not a mod.


oh wow, has anyone else ever been pertinently banned like that?

I don't know actually.
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Postby Kyrusia » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:56 pm

Newark Aristocracy wrote:What about the shortest time as DOS Status?

The number of DOSes that have successfully been "appealed" - in the sense that we have knowingly allowed a DOS to return after they contacted us many years later - can be counted on one hand. There isn't, therefor, really a "shortest" DOS status; DOS orders are effectively permanent. The few appeals we've granted are the exception, not the rule. Worthy of note: of those handful that have contacted us about having their DOS overturned, and us agreeing to, they are duly informed they remain on exceptionally thin ice, and as little as a single infraction of consequence (say, flaming someone compared to gravedigging) can result in them being DOS'd again - after which they can never really expect us to grant any sort of appeal, all things considered.

Catsfern wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=33880649#p33880649

One poster was permanently banned from the forum it looks like.

/not a mod.


oh wow, has anyone else ever been pertinently banned like that?

It's a rarity, but it happens. Unless it's been publicly posted, you also aren't entitled to know whom it may have been executed against.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:57 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Catsfern wrote:
oh wow, has anyone else ever been pertinently banned like that?

I don't know actually.

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Postby NERVUN » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:43 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I don't know actually.

They're like the souls that lurk on the banks of the Styx, the ones who don't have a coin for the ferryman. All they can do is weep.

I've always thought of them as the Room for Ghosts That Have Been Exorcised...
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:53 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:They're like the souls that lurk on the banks of the Styx, the ones who don't have a coin for the ferryman. All they can do is weep.

I've always thought of them as the Room for Ghosts That Have Been Exorcised...

I like that. Or maybe the Eternal Waiting Room in Beetlejuice.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:51 am

Farnhamia wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I don't know actually.

They're like the souls that lurk on the banks of the Styx, the ones who don't have a coin for the ferryman. All they can do is weep.


To be fair, some probably genuinely move on from NS.

Which is healthy (moving on from a place where you're unwelcome generally is healthy)

We (mods and players) won't notice though. Because of the very nature of moving on :p
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:33 am

I know there are definitely people who have had permanent rmb bans.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:03 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I know there are definitely people who have had permanent rmb bans.

I'm surprised they wouldn't just declare that person DOS.
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