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Postby Realm of Coffeecakes » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:05 am

June is LGBT pride month and among the many things being discussed regarding the LGBT community is health. As I myself engaged in research at my college campus about metal and physical health issues facing the LGBT community, I came to the conclusion that the evidence that homosexuality and lesbianism are dangerous to society is overwhelming. HIV/AIDS rates and other STD rates are much higher among the LGBT community than the straight community and LGBT people are much more likely to sexual promiscuous. I also found that the rate of domestic violence is much higher among same-sex couples and that when it comes to violence, LGBT perpetrators tend to be even more brutal than their straight counterparts. After these findings, I just don't understand why we should consider homosexuality okay and normal or okay. Instead of being blindly politically correct for the sake of an ideology, I think it is better that we stand up for the truth and fight against homosexuality and find a cure for it to help the people struggling with it. What do you think? Please read the sources first.

Here are a few of my sources.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-aids ... H220100923

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/291357

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... d_RVDocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8838474

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?Db= ... d_RVDocSum
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:10 am

Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:June is LGBT pride month and among the many things being discussed regarding the LGBT community is health. As I myself engaged in research at my college campus about metal and physical health issues facing the LGBT community, I came to the conclusion that the evidence that homosexuality and lesbianism are dangerous to society is overwhelming. HIV/AIDS rates and other STD rates are much higher among the LGBT community than the straight community and LGBT people are much more likely to sexual promiscuous. I also found that the rate of domestic violence is much higher among same-sex couples and that when it comes to violence, LGBT perpetrators tend to be even more brutal than their straight counterparts. After these findings, I just don't understand why we should consider homosexuality okay and normal or okay. Instead of being blindly politically correct for the sake of an ideology, I think it is better that we stand up for the truth and fight against homosexuality and find a cure for it to help the people struggling with it. What do you think? Please read the sources first.

Here are a few of my sources.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-aids ... H220100923

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/291357

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... d_RVDocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8838474


I consider your literature review to be lacking. The conspicuous lack of any attempts to challenge your own hypothesis in particular, along with its apparent basis in a correlative relationship with no attempt to establish a causal one.
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Postby Realm of Coffeecakes » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:13 am

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Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:June is LGBT pride month and among the many things being discussed regarding the LGBT community is health. As I myself engaged in research at my college campus about metal and physical health issues facing the LGBT community, I came to the conclusion that the evidence that homosexuality and lesbianism are dangerous to society is overwhelming. HIV/AIDS rates and other STD rates are much higher among the LGBT community than the straight community and LGBT people are much more likely to sexual promiscuous. I also found that the rate of domestic violence is much higher among same-sex couples and that when it comes to violence, LGBT perpetrators tend to be even more brutal than their straight counterparts. After these findings, I just don't understand why we should consider homosexuality okay and normal or okay. Instead of being blindly politically correct for the sake of an ideology, I think it is better that we stand up for the truth and fight against homosexuality and find a cure for it to help the people struggling with it. What do you think? Please read the sources first.

Here are a few of my sources.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-aids ... H220100923

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/291357

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... d_RVDocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8838474


I consider your literature review to be lacking. The conspicuous lack of any attempts to challenge your own hypothesis in particular.


I wasn't unable to find anything to go against my arguments. Even some of the LGBT people I interviewed in campus agreed and admitted that their condition felt like an illness.

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:14 am

Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:
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I consider your literature review to be lacking. The conspicuous lack of any attempts to challenge your own hypothesis in particular.


I wasn't unable to find anything to go against my arguments. Even some of the LGBT people I interviewed in campus agreed and admitted that their condition felt like an illness.


That's a very telling double-negative.

Tell me, was this a theory-building or a theory-testing study? What was your sampling method?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:16 am

TIL that despite overwhelming evidence that homosexuality is not a mental disorder, explicitly stated so by mental health care professionals, and that heterosexuals can be super promiscuous and spread HIV at alarming rates, I have to take a mere student’s biased “research” as gospel and fight the rainbow brigade. Totes. Totes.

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Postby Realm of Coffeecakes » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:18 am

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Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:
I wasn't unable to find anything to go against my arguments. Even some of the LGBT people I interviewed in campus agreed and admitted that their condition felt like an illness.


That's a very telling double-negative.

Tell me, was this a theory-building or a theory-challenging study? What was your sampling method?


It started off as a simply undergraduate study to determine that types of mental and physical health issues that the LGBT community faced compared to society at large. Personally, I did not go in with any biases as it wasn't until after the research that I came to the conclusion that non-traditional sexual orientations and gender identities were bad for the society. The subjects were interviewed in private in empty classrooms. Some were alone, others weren't. It all depended on their class schedules and when they could be interviewed.

And as you can see I provided multiple unbiased sources.

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Postby Highever » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:20 am

Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
That's a very telling double-negative.

Tell me, was this a theory-building or a theory-challenging study? What was your sampling method?


It started off as a simply undergraduate study to determine that types of mental and physical health issues that the LGBT community faced compared to society at large. Personally, I did not go in with any biases as it wasn't until after the research that I came to the conclusion that non-traditional sexual orientations and gender identities were bad for the society. The subjects were interviewed in private in empty classrooms. Some were alone, others weren't. It all depended on their class schedules and when they could be interviewed.

And as you can see I provided multiple unbiased sources.

Forgive me if I dont think you went into a study on homosexuality which you call a mental illness and wrong and say should be eliminated without any sort of bias.
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Postby Realm of Coffeecakes » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:20 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:TIL that despite overwhelming evidence that homosexuality is not a mental disorder, explicitly stated so by mental health care professionals, and that heterosexuals can be super promiscuous and spread HIV at alarming rates, I have to take a mere student’s biased “research” as gospel and fight the rainbow brigade. Totes. Totes.

I have been schooled... in bullshit.


My group's study was not funded by any political organizations nor were we bound by political correctness. Also, I provided multiple unbiased sources to back up my statements.

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Postby Celritannia » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:21 am

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:21 am

Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:TIL that despite overwhelming evidence that homosexuality is not a mental disorder, explicitly stated so by mental health care professionals, and that heterosexuals can be super promiscuous and spread HIV at alarming rates, I have to take a mere student’s biased “research” as gospel and fight the rainbow brigade. Totes. Totes.

I have been schooled... in bullshit.


My group's study was not funded by any political organizations nor were we bound by political correctness. Also, I provided multiple unbiased sources to back up my statements.


None of your sources are unbiased. Just saying.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:22 am

Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:As I myself engaged in research at my college campus about metal [...]

A metallurgist. I can respect that.

Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:I came to the conclusion that the evidence that homosexuality and lesbianism are dangerous to society is overwhelming. HIV/AIDS rates and other STD rates are much higher among the LGBT community than the straight community

Lesbians have lower STD rates than straight people, so methinks your conclusion is flawed.

Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:LGBT people are much more likely to sexual promiscuous.

Perhaps because they have been forced underground for so long that they need to get sex as and when they can? So in that case it is the fault of society, rather than LGBT people themselves...

Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:I also found that the rate of domestic violence is much higher among same-sex couples and that when it comes to violence, LGBT perpetrators tend to be even more brutal than their straight counterparts.

It's still a minority, and it is quite frankly a complete farce that you are using it as a weapon against the entire LGBT community at large.

Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:I think it is better that we stand up for the truth and fight against homosexuality and find a cure for it to help the people struggling with it.

Truth? What truth? That you have added 1 and 1 and arrived at 5? :roll:
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Postby Realm of Coffeecakes » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:22 am

Highever wrote:
Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:
It started off as a simply undergraduate study to determine that types of mental and physical health issues that the LGBT community faced compared to society at large. Personally, I did not go in with any biases as it wasn't until after the research that I came to the conclusion that non-traditional sexual orientations and gender identities were bad for the society. The subjects were interviewed in private in empty classrooms. Some were alone, others weren't. It all depended on their class schedules and when they could be interviewed.

And as you can see I provided multiple unbiased sources.

Forgive me if I dont think you went into a study on homosexuality which you call a mental illness and wrong and say should be eliminated without any sort of bias.


It wasn't until after the study and research that I found it to be a mental health issue in of itself.

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:23 am

I think you misinterpreted one of them. Badly. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8838474 doesn't deal with homosexual perpetrators. It deals with homosexual victims.
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:23 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:
My group's study was not funded by any political organizations nor were we bound by political correctness. Also, I provided multiple unbiased sources to back up my statements.


None of your sources are unbiased. Just saying.

NCBI isn't unbiased? Sorry, what?
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Postby Celritannia » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:24 am

Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:
Highever wrote:Forgive me if I dont think you went into a study on homosexuality which you call a mental illness and wrong and say should be eliminated without any sort of bias.


It wasn't until after the study and research that I found it to be a mental health issue in of itself.


Have you ever considered the fact that LGBT people have mental health issues because they are still targeted by society, or that people are still saying homosexuality is a disease?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:24 am

Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:
Highever wrote:Forgive me if I dont think you went into a study on homosexuality which you call a mental illness and wrong and say should be eliminated without any sort of bias.


It wasn't until after the study and research that I found it to be a mental health issue in of itself.


Again. It. Is. Not. A. Mental. Health. Issue. Homosexuals aren’t mentally ill.

I happen to find having black hair a curse on me. Almost a disease. Does it mean that factually and medically I have a mental disorder? No. It means I just don’t fucking like my black hair. There’s no need pathologize that.
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Postby The Columbia-Republic » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:25 am

Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:June is LGBT pride month and among the many things being discussed regarding the LGBT community is health. As I myself engaged in research at my college campus about metal and physical health issues facing the LGBT community, I came to the conclusion that the evidence that homosexuality and lesbianism are dangerous to society is overwhelming. HIV/AIDS rates and other STD rates are much higher among the LGBT community than the straight community and LGBT people are much more likely to sexual promiscuous. I also found that the rate of domestic violence is much higher among same-sex couples and that when it comes to violence, LGBT perpetrators tend to be even more brutal than their straight counterparts. After these findings, I just don't understand why we should consider homosexuality okay and normal or okay. Instead of being blindly politically correct for the sake of an ideology, I think it is better that we stand up for the truth and fight against homosexuality and find a cure for it to help the people struggling with it. What do you think? Please read the sources first.

Here are a few of my sources.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-aids ... H220100923

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/291357

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... d_RVDocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8838474


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Postby Geneviev » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:25 am

Being LGBT isn't a disease that needs to be cured. Most of these problems are a result of discrimination in society.
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Geneviev wrote:Being LGBT isn't a disease that needs to be cured. Most of these problems are a result of discrimination in society.


How so?

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Postby Highever » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:27 am

Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:
Highever wrote:Forgive me if I dont think you went into a study on homosexuality which you call a mental illness and wrong and say should be eliminated without any sort of bias.


It wasn't until after the study and research that I found it to be a mental health issue in of itself.

Oh yes, clearly your amateur study is more reputable and should be taken more seriously than the conclusion reached by medical professionals that it is not at all a mental disorder
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Postby Celritannia » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:27 am

Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Being LGBT isn't a disease that needs to be cured. Most of these problems are a result of discrimination in society.


How so?


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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:27 am

Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Being LGBT isn't a disease that needs to be cured. Most of these problems are a result of discrimination in society.


How so?


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Postby Great Minarchistan » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:29 am

Geneviev wrote:Being LGBT isn't a disease that needs to be cured. Most of these problems are a result of discrimination in society.

It's not like you can cure sexual/gender deviance anyways since it's apparently modeled in fetal development
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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:
My group's study was not funded by any political organizations nor were we bound by political correctness. Also, I provided multiple unbiased sources to back up my statements.


None of your sources are unbiased. Just saying.


Seriously? Aside from government sources, I even cited Reuters which it is the king of being unbiased. Just because a source doesn't fall in line with liberal ideology doesn't mean that it is biased.

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Postby Celritannia » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:30 am

Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
None of your sources are unbiased. Just saying.


Seriously? Aside from government sources, I even cited Reuters which it is the king of being unbiased. Just because a source doesn't fall in line with liberal ideology doesn't mean that it is biased.


No credible medical journals, psychological studies, or even studies by LGBTQ individuals.

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