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What do you choose?

1. It's nothing personal, it's just good business.
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2. No. I WILL NOT DO IT.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:45 am

Please consider the following hypothetical:

Ever since the creation of the League of Righteousness, it has become near impossible for villains to accomplish anything.

To deal with this band of heroes, Mr. Antagonist puts together a coalition of villains to take them down. You have been recruited to join this gig.

You come up with a plan to lure and capture the leader of the superheroes, Captain Cowl. Mr. Antagonist highly doubted your plan would work but it did and Captain Cowl is captured. You then advise Antagonist that Cowl should be killed immediately.

"Don't you know? They ALWAYS escape later if they're not killed immediately." you tell him.

However, Mr. Antagonist refuses to let you kill him because he may "prove useful" (and also, this is a Saturday morning cartoon serial, you can't kill anyone, its not allowed).

While Mr. Antagonist plots to use a fake robot clone version of Captain Cowl to infiltrate the Mod Tower (the HQ of the League of Righteousness and bomb it to the ground... Captain Cowl manages to talk the buffoon-like henchmen into fighting with each other while you're outside. Using the chaos and the commotion, Captain Cowl manages to escape and alert his comrades.

A confused and extremely angry Mr. Antagonist watches as the heroes defuse the bomb and then move on to attack the villain hideout.

A massive battle ensues, however, everywhere left and right, all of the villains are getting defeated (no one is killed, this is a Saturday morning cartoon, no killing is allowed).

Mr. Antagonist hops into a giant mecha battle suit (which you designed) and temporarily holds off the heroes.

You come face to face with Captain Cowl. He tells you that you've already lost its only a matter of time.

You look around you and indeed, except for Mr. Antagonist who's still doing okay in his battle suit, everywhere else your allies are getting defeated. Its only a matter of time before the remaining heroes dogpile and defeat Mr. Antagonist. Unless Mr. Antagonist pulls off a miracle win (you figure the odds are low for that, though not impossible).

Captain Cowl offers you a deal:

He controls all the prisons in the city. If you use your remote control to de-activate the battle suit (thus instantly screwing over Mr. Antagonist), Cowl promises you that you will get half the prison sentence of the other villains AND.... ANNNNNND you get a massive special privileges large-screen HD television complete with a collector's DVD series with all Game of Thrones episodes (along with complete privileges to watch it 24/7).

You understand Captain Cowl to be a man of honour (its in his character to always honour deals in good faith).

There is definitely something to be gained for betraying your comrades at this point, seeing as their defeat is almost certain.

However, if you do this sort of stunt your Villain Credit will suffer for it. Once you gain a reputation as a sellout (for Game of Thrones DVDs no less) it's possible that you'll be left out of future World Domination Gigs. You might miss out on the final victory and you may have to give up on your dream of becoming Master of Australia...

So, what do you do?

Your Options:

1. "It's nothing personal, it's just good business." (hits the remote and instantly de-activate the robot suit and screw over Mr. Antagonist). Chill out in prison with only half the sentence while watching Thrones on HD TV.

2. No I greatly value my personal honour and future Villain World Domination Gig oppertunities. I will not betray Mr. Antagonist. Captain Cowl, you vs me... 1 vs 1 let's go. Let's finish this. (fight to near certain defeat, but fight nevertheless)


Please discuss and justify your choice.

I choose Option 1. At the end of the day, Mr. Antagonist ignored my advice at every turn. I feel no great loyalty to such an ally. Furthermore, Captain Cowl offers too good a deal.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:48 am

I liked your older scenarios better such as a vote for the far right and free video games or the criminal killing computer. Your newest ones are way to complicated and difficult to follow

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:51 am

Why on Earth would I pick a fight with the Justice League? I'll just put my tinker powers to lawful uses.
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Postby Risottia » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:55 am

Ifreann wrote:Why on Earth would I pick a fight with the Justice League? I'll just put my tinker powers to lawful uses.

Instead of building a giant mecha for mr.Antagonist, I'd just make an orange puppet and have him become the President of the U.S. of A.

Or maybe I have already.
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Postby Kragholm Free States » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:04 am

If I have a remote control for a giant mecha battle suit, why would I not just get it to stomp on over and make Captain Cowl go Captain Crunch?
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:05 am

Kragholm Free States wrote:If I have a remote control for a giant mecha battle suit, why would I not just get it to stomp on over and make Captain Cowl go Captain Crunch?


Mr. Antagonist is piloting it for now (you have the override), and he's been using it to fight several heroes at once

you can see them but you're not exactly next to each other
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:06 am

Kragholm Free States wrote:If I have a remote control for a giant mecha battle suit, why would I not just get it to stomp on over and make Captain Cowl go Captain Crunch?

Because obviously Batman would batarang the remote out of your hand if you tried.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:10 am

Seduce Captain Cowl. Since you have not told me different, my superpower involves being able to shapeshift and change the size of body parts at will. I'm sure that I'd be able to come up with something that he likes. ;)
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Postby Kragholm Free States » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:14 am

Ifreann wrote:
Kragholm Free States wrote:If I have a remote control for a giant mecha battle suit, why would I not just get it to stomp on over and make Captain Cowl go Captain Crunch?

Because obviously Batman would batarang the remote out of your hand if you tried.


In which case I stick my head in the path of the incoming batarang, and depending on the internal logic of this scenario either force the batarang to miss because it's a Saturday morning cartoon so I can't be killed, or die and by my noble sacrifice get the show taken off the air for its graphic death scene, thus denying the heroes their victory.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:19 am

Kragholm Free States wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Because obviously Batman would batarang the remote out of your hand if you tried.


In which case I stick my head in the path of the incoming batarang, and depending on the internal logic of this scenario either force the batarang to miss because it's a Saturday morning cartoon so I can't be killed, or die and by my noble sacrifice get the show taken off the air for its graphic death scene, thus denying the heroes their victory.

You'd probably just be knocked out.
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Postby Kragholm Free States » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:23 am

Ifreann wrote:
Kragholm Free States wrote:
In which case I stick my head in the path of the incoming batarang, and depending on the internal logic of this scenario either force the batarang to miss because it's a Saturday morning cartoon so I can't be killed, or die and by my noble sacrifice get the show taken off the air for its graphic death scene, thus denying the heroes their victory.

You'd probably just be knocked out.


I don't know, those things look pretty damn sharp to me.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:25 am

Kragholm Free States wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You'd probably just be knocked out.


I don't know, those things look pretty damn sharp to me.

Sure, but it's a cartoon with no death.
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Postby The Free Joy State » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:25 am

The New California Republic wrote:Seduce Captain Cowl. Since you have not told me different, my superpower involves being able to shapeshift and change the size of body parts at will. I'm sure that I'd be able to come up with something that he likes. ;)

What Saturday morning serials did you watch? :p

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Postby Cul-Ed-Sac » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:26 am

First option, though I'll give the villains all the GoT DVDs as consolation. (Fingers crossed there are other stuff to watch in the TV!) I'll stick to the show's formula of villains always losing because of the League of Righteousness, yes?

Also, why Master of Australia?
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:30 am

The Free Joy State wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Seduce Captain Cowl. Since you have not told me different, my superpower involves being able to shapeshift and change the size of body parts at will. I'm sure that I'd be able to come up with something that he likes. ;)

What Saturday morning serials did you watch? :p

There was an X-Men cartoon if I remember rightly. Mystique has a lot to answer for in terms of giving me ideas. :lol2:
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Postby Kragholm Free States » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:32 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:snip


How long is the prison sentence the villains would be getting? Because that's a fairly big factor in determining how good this deal would be.
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Postby The Free Joy State » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:43 am

The New California Republic wrote:
The Free Joy State wrote:What Saturday morning serials did you watch? :p

There was an X-Men cartoon if I remember rightly. Mystique has a lot to answer for in terms of giving me ideas. :lol2:

Oh, I remember that X-Men cartoon now.

As for my answer, this is a world where no-one dies, and the Game of Thrones is no inducement (and -- for some reason that RL-Me can't fathom -- the Villain Me apparently really wants to rule a country). So...

Fight. If I lose, say "Damn you, League of Righteousness," and come back again next week, ready to plot to do the same thing we do every night: try to take over the world.

Tune in for the next exciting instalment, folks!
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:46 am

I'll pick the option without Game of Thrones. It's massively overhyped.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:47 am

Kragholm Free States wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:snip


How long is the prison sentence the villains would be getting? Because that's a fairly big factor in determining how good this deal would be.

Two or three episodes.
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Postby The Free Joy State » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:49 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:I'll pick the option without Game of Thrones. It's massively overhyped.

That would be option two.

Not watching Game of Thrones formed part of my decision to fight, too.

That, and the fact that -- by accepting the deal -- I'd be a one-shot character. By refusing, my arc would last the whole series: mwahahaha! :twisted:
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Postby Andsed » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:53 am

Can I request that game of thrones be switched out for Parks and Rec? Because if not I am denying the deal.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:17 am

Question: Why would I be a villain? I ain't about that life. But, for the sake of the hypothetical, I will play along.

Well, I don't like GoT tbh so that's kind of a downer. But, if we switched it for a small computer with an internet connection (monitored to make sure I don't escape of course) I'd take the deal. "Mr. Antagonist" is a dumbass and a jackass anyways.
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Postby Purpelia » Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:20 am

Both options are operating on the assumptions that I have not long betrayed the master villain covertly the moment he started not doing the smart thing AND that I ever had any intention of being loyal beyond how ever much it took me to go about my own personal plans. Both would be very wrong. So yea, of course I betray the fool. Not just betray. I super betray him. Like, detonate the giant baby killing bomb I hid in the giant robot ages ago for this occasion levels of betrayal. Hopefully by the time the dust settles I will be long gone, my own schemes accomplished and both the villains and heroes will be dead in an apparent murder suicide.
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Postby Geneviev » Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:23 am

I would deactivate the suit, but not for Game of Thrones. If it were Narnia or books or something, that might be a better reason.

Anyway, the real reason for deactivating the suit is that I would never let villains dominate the world.
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Postby Chan Island » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:03 pm

Well, this Saturday morning cartoon needs a new episode, so of course I laugh at the super hero and go "Until we meet again, Captain Cowl!" and then escape in a surprise hidden rocket.

Then the whole sequel can be about the league's efforts to try and find me on my solo mission to dominate the world.
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