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Cars need to be banned

Postby The Brine » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:43 pm

Well first off the most obvious reason is that cars are really really really harmful to our world through vehicles emitting large amounts of pollutants. The earth is our home and our provider, we lived without cars before why can't we repeat that. Accidents are caused and lives are lost each year precious lives. Back before the cars invention people use to walk on the streets; imagine all that space could be put into good use. I feel like city/metropolitan area would be better off using public transport. Maybe not banning all vehicles immediately but in the distant future it would be a great decision.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:44 pm

My car doesn’t put out any pollution to speak of.
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Postby The Brine » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:45 pm

Galloism wrote:My car doesn’t put out any pollution to speak of.

What kind of car do you have?
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Postby Kowani » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:48 pm

Cars do need to be banned, but not immediately, and not just for the reasons you speak of-although they’re definitely legitimate.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:54 pm

The Brine wrote:
Galloism wrote:My car doesn’t put out any pollution to speak of.

What kind of car do you have?

Tesla model 3.
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Postby The Brine » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:55 pm

Kowani wrote:Cars do need to be banned, but not immediately, and not just for the reasons you speak of-although they’re definitely legitimate.

Care to share those other reasons for why cars should be banned?
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Postby Zrhajan » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:58 pm

Galloism wrote:My car doesn’t put out any pollution to speak of.

is that including during the production stage?
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Postby Galloism » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:58 pm

Zrhajan wrote:
Galloism wrote:My car doesn’t put out any pollution to speak of.

is that including during the production stage?

No, but it only had to be produced once. That part is over.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:01 pm

The Brine wrote:
Kowani wrote:Cars do need to be banned, but not immediately, and not just for the reasons you speak of-although they’re definitely legitimate.

Care to share those other reasons for why cars should be banned?

A transportation model based around cars rather than public transportation screws over the poor.

Also, cars promote both personal and societal independence
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Postby Galloism » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:02 pm

Kowani wrote:
Also, cars promote both personal and societal independence

Um, is that a bad thing?
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Postby Kowani » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:03 pm

Galloism wrote:
Kowani wrote:
Also, cars promote both personal and societal independence

Um, is that a bad thing?

Yes.
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Postby Alien Overlord » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:04 pm

Galloism wrote:
Kowani wrote:
Also, cars promote both personal and societal independence

Um, is that a bad thing?

That seems like a plus in my opinion.
Walkerfort wrote:so...




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Alien Overlord wrote:You mean the proles living in tribes right? The ones who were also brainwashed 1984 style?

Yup, who else? Workers? Ha, as if we need them in our anarcho-primitivist-orwellian utopia dystopia federation.

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Postby The Brine » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:04 pm

Galloism wrote:
The Brine wrote:What kind of car do you have?

Tesla model 3.

Well, even if it runs on electricity. Cars still cause thousands of death yearly. For example, in 2016 a survey was conducted for how many automobile accidents occur yearly and the data showed that 37,461 people were killed in 34,436 motor vehicle crashes, that's an average of 102 deaths a day.
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Postby Aeritai » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:06 pm

I won't disagree with you that cars hurt the enviroment and need new sources of energy. But not all cars are dangerous though it is the driver who makes the car dangerous either by being drunk, texting on a phone, or not paying attention.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:06 pm

Alien Overlord wrote:
Galloism wrote:Um, is that a bad thing?

That seems like a plus in my opinion.

The societal attitudes which lead to these being seen as good things are based on fundamentally invalid philosophy and ahistoricity.
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Oh, and a Pragmatist. Somehow.
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Christian Confederation wrote:Contraception can't fail if you don't have sex in term no unwanted pregnancy.

Your entire religion is based on the idea that this isn't true.

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Postby Alien Overlord » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:07 pm

The Brine wrote:
Galloism wrote:Tesla model 3.

Well, even if it runs on electricity. Cars still cause thousands of death yearly. For example, in 2016 a survey was conducted for how many automobile accidents occur yearly and the data showed that 37,461 people were killed in 34,436 motor vehicle crashes, that's an average of 102 deaths a day.

The thing about your suggestion is that it screws over people living in rural area's and mainly benefits those living in the cities. If you don't live in a city, you need a car to get around. Contrary to popular belief, not every rural person owns a Horse-not that transportation was particularly efficient with horses, but still.
Walkerfort wrote:so...




Banning cars will lead to a clusterfuck of mininations everywhere and attempting to mash two Eras together miserably and 1984 style dictatorships


butterfly effect when give a butterfly cocaine


Ayissor wrote:
Alien Overlord wrote:You mean the proles living in tribes right? The ones who were also brainwashed 1984 style?

Yup, who else? Workers? Ha, as if we need them in our anarcho-primitivist-orwellian utopia dystopia federation.

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Postby Galloism » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:08 pm

Kowani wrote:
Alien Overlord wrote:That seems like a plus in my opinion.

The societal attitudes which lead to these being seen as good things are based on fundamentally invalid philosophy and ahistoricity.

Being your own individual is an invalid philosophy and ahistorical? How?
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Postby Galloism » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:08 pm

The Brine wrote:
Galloism wrote:Tesla model 3.

Well, even if it runs on electricity. Cars still cause thousands of death yearly. For example, in 2016 a survey was conducted for how many automobile accidents occur yearly and the data showed that 37,461 people were killed in 34,436 motor vehicle crashes, that's an average of 102 deaths a day.

Patience, my friend. The cars are learning to drive themselves.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:09 pm

Cars should be environmentally friendly than they are now, but they should not be banned. Some people are not within walking or biking distance to their place of work, nor is everyone near alternative means of transport. It is also a blessing not having to work around train schedules every day.
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Postby Alien Overlord » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:09 pm

Kowani wrote:
Alien Overlord wrote:That seems like a plus in my opinion.

The societal attitudes which lead to these being seen as good things are based on fundamentally invalid philosophy and ahistoricity.

Philosophy isn't a hard science and therefore can't be invalid. Considering The United States was founded with a understanding that personal liberty was important, it's not ahistorical either.
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Banning cars will lead to a clusterfuck of mininations everywhere and attempting to mash two Eras together miserably and 1984 style dictatorships


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Ayissor wrote:
Alien Overlord wrote:You mean the proles living in tribes right? The ones who were also brainwashed 1984 style?

Yup, who else? Workers? Ha, as if we need them in our anarcho-primitivist-orwellian utopia dystopia federation.

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Postby Kowani » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:10 pm

Galloism wrote:
Kowani wrote:The societal attitudes which lead to these being seen as good things are based on fundamentally invalid philosophy and ahistoricity.

Being your own individual is an invalid philosophy and ahistorical? How?

Nah. Basing your society around individualism and distrust of both collectivism and government is, though. I could go on to express the philosophical problems and contradictions inherent in classical liberalism, but I believe that would be threadjacking.
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Postby The Brine » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:11 pm

Alien Overlord wrote:
The Brine wrote:Well, even if it runs on electricity. Cars still cause thousands of death yearly. For example, in 2016 a survey was conducted for how many automobile accidents occur yearly and the data showed that 37,461 people were killed in 34,436 motor vehicle crashes, that's an average of 102 deaths a day.

The thing about your suggestion is that it screws over people living in rural area's and mainly benefits those living in the cities. If you don't live in a city, you need a car to get around. Contrary to popular belief, not every rural person owns a Horse-not that transportation was particularly efficient with horses, but still.

That's why there should be public buses that run through rural areas that are free to use. This is accomplished by taxes of course.
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Postby Saiwania » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:12 pm

The thing supposedly holding back electric cars is the state of battery technology. Until there is a battery that is exponentially better than lithium-ion, electric vehicles aren't going to take off as much as they could. All cars becoming electric but also affordable, would be the ideal outcome. There is a ton of inertia unfortunately, that keeps fossil fuel powered cars on the road.

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Postby Bluelight-R006 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:12 pm

The Brine wrote:Well first off the most obvious reason is that (1) cars are really really really harmful to our world through vehicles emitting large amounts of pollutants. The earth is our home and our provider, (2) we lived without cars before why can't we repeat that. (3) Accidents are caused and lives are lost each year precious lives. Back before the cars invention (4) people use to walk on the streets; imagine all that space could be put into good use. I feel like city/metropolitan area would be better off using public transport. (5) Maybe not banning all vehicles immediately but in the distant future it would be a great decision.

(1) Ever heard of electric cars? We can use renewable energy to make the cars. Not all cars emit CO^2. Therefore, not all cars should be banned.
(2) We can’t repeat that because that was back then, getting to our destinations was really inconvenient. Using horses and just walking isn’t going to get us to our destinations by the time we are supposed to arrive.
(3) And we are inventing new technology that can avoid the imperfection of man that leads to accidents. Though not so reliable, will result in lesser casualties.
(4) And people still walk on the streets — to get to destinations that are near. You’re talking as if the streets were empty and desolate!
(5) Never! Never will banning vehicles be a great decision! Vehicles get us to our destinations faster, they ease us on having to cycle or walk and make us tired. Watch your words: Not all vehicles are bad.

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