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What is the most radically right-wing system concoctible?

Postby Talatorrum » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:44 pm

The "most right-wing" as in economy and state.

The answers that I am searching for should tell me and the other members of this discussion thread about the ways that they could increase inequality, discrimination and hierarchy within their hypothetical system.

Within this thread there won't be any alternative meaning for right-wing, like smaller government or liberty.

This thread will be here to give people ideas on how to make their system more right-wing.
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Postby New Cabo Azul » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:49 pm

Fascist Capitalism?
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:50 pm

Talatorrum wrote:The "most right-wing" as in economy and state.

The answers that I am searching for should tell me and the other members of this discussion thread about the ways that they could increase inequality, discrimination and hierarchy within their hypothetical system.

Within this thread there won't be any alternative meaning for right-wing, like smaller government or liberty.

This thread will be here to give people ideas on how to make their system more right-wing.

It's polite to give your opinion on the topic proposed. That topic is eluding me, by the way. NSG is totally, utterly and completely OOC, so maybe this belongs elsewhere/
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Postby Talatorrum » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:51 pm

New Cabo Azul wrote:Fascist Capitalism?

That sounds like a plausible answer but fascism has often adopted the economic style of corporatism which has often been described as economically center.
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Postby Talatorrum » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:55 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Talatorrum wrote:The "most right-wing" as in economy and state.

The answers that I am searching for should tell me and the other members of this discussion thread about the ways that they could increase inequality, discrimination and hierarchy within their hypothetical system.

Within this thread there won't be any alternative meaning for right-wing, like smaller government or liberty.

This thread will be here to give people ideas on how to make their system more right-wing.

It's polite to give your opinion on the topic proposed. That topic is eluding me, by the way. NSG is totally, utterly and completely OOC, so maybe this belongs elsewhere/

Could you give me any other area where I could post this?
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Postby Talatorrum » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:04 pm

I myself might consider a mix between feudalistic monarchism and a heavily racialized social meritocracy.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:06 pm

Talatorrum wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:It's polite to give your opinion on the topic proposed. That topic is eluding me, by the way. NSG is totally, utterly and completely OOC, so maybe this belongs elsewhere/

Could you give me any other area where I could post this?

I'm thinking Factbooks & National Information. Shall I?
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Postby Hatterleigh » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:10 pm

There is no such thing. Different people have different perceptions of the redpill. In my opinion, it is when race goes beyond science, none of that, you aren't even racist anymore, you view race as something spiritual, almost esoteric. As far as socio economic structure goes, feudalism. Feudalism, but more titular rather than the higher castes being richer. Maybe guilds involved in there somewhere, as guilds are like syndicates but more... Platonic? Confucian? idk but they're not as democratic and have a more meritocratic master-apprentice style. Religion is either folk or some very traditional or folk-influenced view of islam or christianity or hinduism or buddhism.
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Postby Hatterleigh » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:14 pm

Talatorrum wrote:
New Cabo Azul wrote:Fascist Capitalism?

That sounds like a plausible answer but fascism has often adopted the economic style of corporatism which has often been described as economically center.

The concept of right wing lies on class division and ethnic division, it does not have to be pro-capitalism or even primarily hierarchical. Not the same as economic right wing. Two different things
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Anarcho-Libertarian-Theocratic-Fascist-Racial-Monarchism? :meh:
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When you are born you are given a number.

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Postby Vetalia » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:18 pm

The Soviet Union under Stalin? Unlike most thought experiments that one actually existed.
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Vetalia wrote:The Soviet Union under Stalin? Unlike most thought experiments that one actually existed.

Stalin was not right or left wing, he was his own thing. Don't even know how to describe him.
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Postby Eternal Lotharia » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:20 pm

Hatterleigh wrote:
Vetalia wrote:The Soviet Union under Stalin? Unlike most thought experiments that one actually existed.

Stalin was not right or left wing, he was his own thing. Don't even know how to describe him.

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Hatterleigh wrote:Stalin was not right or left wing, he was his own thing. Don't even know how to describe him.


In many ways he was the worst of both worlds.
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The Union of the West wrote:Literally Pinochet.

Pinochet was cringe and bluepilled
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Hatterleigh wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:Literally Pinochet.

Pinochet was cringe and bluepilled

:rofl:
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Hatterleigh wrote:
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Pinochet was cringe and bluepilled

Pinochet was a normie and a cuck.
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Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Hatterleigh wrote:Pinochet was cringe and bluepilled

:rofl:
Not attacking you that's just a first.

Get on my level :D
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The most radically right-wing system possible is probably some kind of society founded on mass slavery, as in French Haiti, the Congo Free State, or Manchukuo, mixed in with a Fascism society based on Führerprinzip; in that society, then, there is a total and complete hierarchy, as one man or woman completely dominates over a mass of slaves.
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New Cabo Azul wrote:Fascist Capitalism?

That sounds like a plausible answer but fascism has often adopted the economic style of corporatism which has often been described as economically center.

Like populism, Corporatism is so broad and vague an ideology to the extent that it is a key feature of both Nordic social democracy and Interwar fascism.

In practice, there is no singular fascist economics; in Italy, for example, the state nationalized much of the industry, and in Germany, the state privatized much of it. That being said, fascism's effect was generally to destroy independent, usually socialist, trade unions in favour of fascist trade unions totally subservient to capital (a more "right-wing" move, I suppose), while at the same time making capital subservient to the state - and unlike in democracies, this is not to the left, because both a capitalist business and a dictatorship are fundamentally hierarchical institutions.
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Probably ISIS tbh. They literally despise all things modern and want a holy war between their strict interpretation of Islam (they basically consider only themselves to be real muslims) and everyone else until the whole world is conquered by Islam and forced to convert or die. I can't think of anything more fascistic and reactionary, between IsIS's use of genocide to change the demographics of their caliphate, their maltreatment of women and their belief that this is the end of the world. I dare anyone to find something further right wing and extremist than ISIS. The Nazis may be on par with them but they weren't more extreme ideologically
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United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:The most radically right-wing system possible is probably some kind of society founded on mass slavery, as in French Haiti, the Congo Free State, or Manchukuo, mixed in with a Fascism society based on Führerprinzip; in that society, then, there is a total and complete hierarchy, as one man or woman completely dominates over a mass of slaves.
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New Cabo Azul wrote:Fascist Capitalism?

That sounds like a plausible answer but fascism has often adopted the economic style of corporatism which has often been described as economically center.

Like populism, Corporatism is so broad and vague an ideology to the extent that it is a key feature of both Nordic social democracy and Interwar fascism.
In practice, there is no singular fascist economics; in Italy, for example, the state nationalized much of the industry, and in Germany, the state privatized much of it. That being said, fascism's effect was generally to destroy independent, usually socialist, trade unions in favour of fascist trade unions totally subservient to capital (a more "right-wing" move, I suppose), while at the same time making capital subservient to the state - and unlike in democracies, this is not to the left, because both a capitalist business and a dictatorship are fundamentally hierarchical institutions.



Yes, but the goal of fascist, "corporatist" organizations is collective work for collective gains while the goal of capitalists in capitalist organizations is individual gains. Also, heirarchy can mean many different things. To some, it means inequality, but it can also be a system of mutual obligations
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Postby Vetalia » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:29 pm

I think it has to be a system that is so out there that it was savagely reactionary but literally accomplished nothing good for the country AT ALL...I think this "honor" might go to Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. If someone can name a single good thing they did they should be eligible for a Nobel Prize.
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