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Do you support or object to Bibles in hotel rooms?

I support it
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30%
I object
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17%
I have no opinion
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35%
I support it but there should be other religious books too.
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19%
 
Total votes : 355

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Postby New Rogernomics » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:38 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Geneviev wrote:It is good to give people Bibles, so they can hopefully become Christian. That doesn't mean any religion belongs in every aspect of public life.


What is good about becoming Christian?

Society spontaneously views you as a more moral person than an atheist, even if you are a thrice convicted axe murderer.

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:39 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Geneviev wrote:It is good to give people Bibles, so they can hopefully become Christian.

I wouldn't say that becoming Christian is good.
That doesn't mean any religion belongs in every aspect of public life.

Then the Gideons can stick to distributing Bibles in churches.



That was not the point of their organization. What is your objection? are you being forced to read it or even open the drawer?

what harm is it causing you?
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:39 pm

Free Arabian Nation wrote:
San Lumen wrote:whose making you read it?

No, clearly having a singular book in a room that probably hasn't been touched in 3 months is like having a television play Catholic propaganda for 3 hours straight


Ew. Three months.

That is just bad cleaning.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:41 pm

New Rogernomics wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
What is good about becoming Christian?

Society spontaneously views you as a more moral person than an atheist, even if you are a thrice convicted axe murderer.


That is not particularly good. I want my axe murderers... Wait, I do not want axe murderers.

But if I encounter one, I don't think my main concern will be their (ir)religiousness.
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Postby Arcanda » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:42 pm

Bibles in rooms of Christian-majority nations, Qurans in Muslim nations, Torahs in Israel, yeah, fine.
But all of the books in a nightstand in every country? Nah. This is political correctness. No need for a Qu'ran in a state where there isn't even 1% of Muslims or, vice-versa, for a Bible in a Jeddah suite.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:42 pm

Arcanda wrote:Bibles in rooms of Christian-majority nations, Qurans in Muslim nations, Torahs in Israel, yeah, fine.
But all of the books in a nightstand in every country? Nah. This is political correctness. No need for a Qu'ran in a state where there isn't even 1% of Muslims or, vice-versa, for a Bible in a Jeddah suite.

Why not?
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Postby Geneviev » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:44 pm

Arcanda wrote:Bibles in rooms of Christian-majority nations, Qurans in Muslim nations, Torahs in Israel, yeah, fine.
But all of the books in a nightstand in every country? Nah. This is political correctness. No need for a Qu'ran in a state where there isn't even 1% of Muslims or, vice-versa, for a Bible in a Jeddah suite.

The books associated with the most common religions, at least, should be in hotel rooms. It doesn't have to be every religion.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:44 pm

Arcanda wrote:Bibles in rooms of Christian-majority nations, Qurans in Muslim nations, Torahs in Israel, yeah, fine.
But all of the books in a nightstand in every country? Nah. This is political correctness. No need for a Qu'ran in a state where there isn't even 1% of Muslims or, vice-versa, for a Bible in a Jeddah suite.


What about majority irreligious countries?

Can we have some nice secular books there? :)
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Postby Korhal IVV » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:45 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Geneviev wrote:It is good to give people Bibles, so they can hopefully become Christian. That doesn't mean any religion belongs in every aspect of public life.


What is good about becoming Christian?

Contentment in life, eternal life after death, and not burning in the hellfire summoned by Frollo. Oh, and being labelled as stupid by Richard Dawkins.

In short, everything.

Ifreann wrote:
Geneviev wrote:It is good to give people Bibles, so they can hopefully become Christian.

I wouldn't say that becoming Christian is good.
That doesn't mean any religion belongs in every aspect of public life.

Then the Gideons can stick to distributing Bibles in churches.

Giving Bibles to people who already have them is kind of a waste.

Also it is not being shoved down your throat, if you don’t like it don’t read it, the angels aren’t going to decapitate you for that.

The Liberated Territories wrote:I'd prefer constitutions in hotel rooms tbh.

Why not both?

Ifreann wrote:
Geneviev wrote:It shouldn't be fair to make this harder for people who are trying to do something good.

Is it good to inject Christianity into every aspect of public life?

That is not what is happening.

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Geneviev wrote:I don't know if I should be impressed or confused.


Hopefully not.

Christianity is the biggest religion in the world. It's only fair to throw a few hurdles in their way.

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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:45 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Arcanda wrote:Bibles in rooms of Christian-majority nations, Qurans in Muslim nations, Torahs in Israel, yeah, fine.
But all of the books in a nightstand in every country? Nah. This is political correctness. No need for a Qu'ran in a state where there isn't even 1% of Muslims or, vice-versa, for a Bible in a Jeddah suite.

The books associated with the most common religions, at least, should be in hotel rooms. It doesn't have to be every religion.

Why not?

Expand your mind man, there could be more compelling religions out there.

Not saying that it should be mandated, no siree. But if I owned a hotel, I might do that if cost permitted.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:46 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Arcanda wrote:Bibles in rooms of Christian-majority nations, Qurans in Muslim nations, Torahs in Israel, yeah, fine.
But all of the books in a nightstand in every country? Nah. This is political correctness. No need for a Qu'ran in a state where there isn't even 1% of Muslims or, vice-versa, for a Bible in a Jeddah suite.


What about majority irreligious countries?

Can we have some nice secular books there? :)

I nominate the Kama Sutra.
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Postby Korhal IVV » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:47 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Arcanda wrote:Bibles in rooms of Christian-majority nations, Qurans in Muslim nations, Torahs in Israel, yeah, fine.
But all of the books in a nightstand in every country? Nah. This is political correctness. No need for a Qu'ran in a state where there isn't even 1% of Muslims or, vice-versa, for a Bible in a Jeddah suite.


What about majority irreligious countries?

Can we have some nice secular books there? :)

If Darth Dawkins and other atheist authors wish to mass produce and distribute their books to hotels just like Gideons, they may.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:47 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Arcanda wrote:Bibles in rooms of Christian-majority nations, Qurans in Muslim nations, Torahs in Israel, yeah, fine.
But all of the books in a nightstand in every country? Nah. This is political correctness. No need for a Qu'ran in a state where there isn't even 1% of Muslims or, vice-versa, for a Bible in a Jeddah suite.

The books associated with the most common religions, at least, should be in hotel rooms. It doesn't have to be every religion.

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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:48 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
What about majority irreligious countries?

Can we have some nice secular books there? :)

If Darth Dawkins and other atheist authors wish to mass produce and distribute their books to hotels just like Gideons, they may.

Is that what Christian apologists are calling him now?


Come on man, that's just a low blow.
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Postby Geneviev » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:48 pm

Free Arabian Nation wrote:
Geneviev wrote:The books associated with the most common religions, at least, should be in hotel rooms. It doesn't have to be every religion.

Why not?

Expand your mind man, there could be more compelling religions out there.

Not saying that it should be mandated, no siree. But if I owned a hotel, I might do that if cost permitted.

The most important book is the Bible. If you want others also, then you can have those.
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Postby Korhal IVV » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:48 pm

Free Arabian Nation wrote:
Geneviev wrote:The books associated with the most common religions, at least, should be in hotel rooms. It doesn't have to be every religion.

Why not?

Expand your mind man, there could be more compelling religions out there.

Not saying that it should be mandated, no siree. But if I owned a hotel, I might do that if cost permitted.

Gideons is a private organization giving out books.

I am sure any other similar organization can do so as well.
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Postby Korhal IVV » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:49 pm

Free Arabian Nation wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:If Darth Dawkins and other atheist authors wish to mass produce and distribute their books to hotels just like Gideons, they may.

Is that what Christian apologists are calling him now?


Come on man, that's just a low blow.

No, it is my personal preference.
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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:50 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Arcanda wrote:Bibles in rooms of Christian-majority nations, Qurans in Muslim nations, Torahs in Israel, yeah, fine.
But all of the books in a nightstand in every country? Nah. This is political correctness. No need for a Qu'ran in a state where there isn't even 1% of Muslims or, vice-versa, for a Bible in a Jeddah suite.

The books associated with the most common religions, at least, should be in hotel rooms. It doesn't have to be every religion.


If nothing else, the hotel could ask if you'd like a book and which one when you make your reservation.
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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:50 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
Free Arabian Nation wrote:Why not?

Expand your mind man, there could be more compelling religions out there.

Not saying that it should be mandated, no siree. But if I owned a hotel, I might do that if cost permitted.

Gideons is a private organization giving out books.

I am sure any other similar organization can do so as well.

That's why I said "if costs permitted".

I don't exactly think there is an organization going around giving away free copies of the Four Books and Five Classics, is there?
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:51 pm

Meh I mean it kind've annoys me but I don't really care that much.
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Postby Rastrian » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:52 pm

Okay. My two cents.

With the number of Christians who respond to perceived fallibilities or downright concerning verses in the Bible with "but you're just not reading it in the right context", I think that alone is enough to outweigh any possible benefit that putting a Bible in a room has. If I am feeling depressed, and decide to open up the book in the dresser to a random point, and I have a roughly equal chance of opening to John 3:16 or Leviticus 20:13, or even Genesis 5:6, then I think there's something wrong with the book.

Maybe they should put self confidence books in there instead.
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Postby Scomagia » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:52 pm

Genivaria wrote:Meh I mean it kind've annoys me but I don't really care that much.

Why should it annoy you?
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Postby Geneviev » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:52 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Geneviev wrote:The books associated with the most common religions, at least, should be in hotel rooms. It doesn't have to be every religion.


If nothing else, the hotel could ask if you'd like a book and which one when you make your reservation.

That could be the best way to be sure that everything is happy. It would almost be a good idea.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:53 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
What about majority irreligious countries?

Can we have some nice secular books there? :)

I nominate the Kama Sutra.


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Postby Korhal IVV » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:54 pm

New Rogernomics wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
What is good about becoming Christian?

Society spontaneously views you as a more moral person than an atheist, even if you are a thrice convicted axe murderer.

What society?

Rastrian wrote:Okay. My two cents.

With the number of Christians who respond to perceived fallibilities or downright concerning verses in the Bible with "but you're just not reading it in the right context", I think that alone is enough to outweigh any possible benefit that putting a Bible in a room has. If I am feeling depressed, and decide to open up the book in the dresser to a random point, and I have a roughly equal chance of opening to John 3:16 or Leviticus 20:13, or even Genesis 5:6, then I think there's something wrong with the book.

Gideons should probably distribute a book on Biblical interpretation as well then.
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