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by Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:26 pm
by Fartsniffage » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:28 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Theory time: it was neither the US nor the Iranian government, it was the IRGC running rampant with no oversight trying to get back at us for declaring them a terror organization.
by The Lone Alliance » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:29 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Theory time: it was neither the US nor the Iranian government, it was the IRGC running rampant with no oversight trying to get back at us for declaring them a terror organization.
by Torrocca » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:32 pm
Scomagia wrote:Torrocca wrote:So, among other's putting into question the USA's almost-immediate accusations of this being an Iranian attack is the owner of the Japanese tanker that was attacked, who's saying that first-hand reports from his ship's crew talk about being attacked by what was likely a missile hitting their ship, not mines exploding.
This isn't to say Iran is or isn't responsible, just that the US accusations are heavily contradictory to first-hand reports.
Eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable.
by Kannap » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:35 pm
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by Scomagia » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:36 pm
Torrocca wrote:Scomagia wrote:Eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable.
I wouldn't call them just eyewitnesses, seeing as how they were the victims of what's at the very least attempted mass-murder. Also, considering it's not just one crew member's report, but multiple reports from multiple crew members, it has way more credibility than Mike Pompeo almost immediately screeching "IRAN DID IT!!1!"
by Torrocca » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:38 pm
Scomagia wrote:Torrocca wrote:
I wouldn't call them just eyewitnesses, seeing as how they were the victims of what's at the very least attempted mass-murder. Also, considering it's not just one crew member's report, but multiple reports from multiple crew members, it has way more credibility than Mike Pompeo almost immediately screeching "IRAN DID IT!!1!"
Not really. People wrongly remember normal things they just saw, to say nothing of a chaotic event.
by Noders » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:41 pm
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by Scomagia » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:46 pm
Torrocca wrote:Scomagia wrote:Not really. People wrongly remember normal things they just saw, to say nothing of a chaotic event.
And multiple people independently claiming a similar event happened (who were victims of that event, mind you) don't have more credibility than somebody halfway across the world immediately screaming about who the perpetrator is not even a day after the events unfolded because... why, exactly?
by Totally Not OEP » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:51 pm
Scomagia wrote:Torrocca wrote:
And multiple people independently claiming a similar event happened (who were victims of that event, mind you) don't have more credibility than somebody halfway across the world immediately screaming about who the perpetrator is not even a day after the events unfolded because... why, exactly?
I just fucking told you. People can credit things that happened before or after traumatic events as being causative or related to the event when they aren't. Multiple eyewitnesses can, in fact, reinforce the false perceptions. Seriously. I find them as uncredible as Pompeo.
by Gig em Aggies » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:53 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Theory time: it was neither the US nor the Iranian government, it was the IRGC running rampant with no oversight trying to get back at us for declaring them a terror organization.
by Totally Not OEP » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:54 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Theory time: it was neither the US nor the Iranian government, it was the IRGC running rampant with no oversight trying to get back at us for declaring them a terror organization.
by Scomagia » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:55 pm
Totally Not OEP wrote:Scomagia wrote:I just fucking told you. People can credit things that happened before or after traumatic events as being causative or related to the event when they aren't. Multiple eyewitnesses can, in fact, reinforce the false perceptions. Seriously. I find them as uncredible as Pompeo.
"But me and my buddies saw Bigfoot, man!"
by Gig em Aggies » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:56 pm
by Fartsniffage » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:57 pm
by Fartsniffage » Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:00 pm
by Loben The 2nd » Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:04 pm
Scomagia wrote:I see people are still jumping the gun and whacking off to the "durr, false flag, durr" conspiracy theories. I am unsurprised.
by The Archipelago Territory » Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:05 pm
by Scomagia » Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:06 pm
by Loben The 2nd » Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:08 pm
The Archipelago Territory wrote:Guys, we’re taking about BOLTON, the man who wants war with Iran. Back in Kennedy’s day Operations Northwoods wanted to attack a US vessel and frame Cuba for it for war...
by The Archipelago Territory » Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:10 pm
by Loben The 2nd » Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:11 pm
The Archipelago Territory wrote:https://japantoday.com/category/national/Ship-operator-says-sailors-saw-'flying-objects'-just-before-attack
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.common ... ying%3famp
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/japa ... d-n1017556
See, I WAS right. It wasn’t iran
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