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The Hegiroth Liberation Campaign

Postby Lytchett » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:07 am

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1220908

Greetings, Nations of the world. I am Lytchett, the Overseer of Jackson's Lighthouse and Former Founder of Hegiroth.

This is a call for help and support. I recently left my old, crumbling region to retire from it all, only to come back and find out it has been invaded by the former members that onced shared Hegirothine soil with I.

Let me give you a bit of backstory:
The Grand Union of Hegiroth was founded on August 8th, 2018 after my friend Galrythia introduced me to this lovely little nation simulation website called Nationstates. There were many hard times, though. We avoided a merge with Driselbia until a misunderstanding concering KAISERREICH'S "Kaiserbund" destroyed the region. Members leaving, here and there, leaving only Anti-Hegiroth traces. They now reside in a region called The Clover Confederation. Raiders, Officials... crooks... and The Wolf Clan. Raiders, Furries...... crooks.... and still none the better.

Some time passed after March 27th until I decided that it was time for me to leave Hegiroth and let it die alone. In peace. In ice.

Only for the scoundrels at TWC and TCC to pick it back up again and shut "Yay! This is ours! Not KAISERREICH'S!"

I'm just sitting there... like; "What?"

Let me get one thing straight: At the time they invaded, Hegiroth wasn't property of KAISERREICH... meaning they INVADED AN INNOCENT PEACEFUL REGION.

Second of all... THE TELEGRAMS!

I recieved multiply telegrams demanding me to stand down and let them fully integrate KAISERREICH's land with me there, pleading that Hegiroth is independent. All I wanted was for my poor region to die alone, and then they come along, gredy, sniffing about for somthing to get their grubby little mits around and they destroy the peacefulness.

So... yes... that was a little exaggeration but I think my point is clear. This campaign will not only liberate my peaceful region from evil.. but we could also put an end to these two regions and maybe raiding altogether on Nationstates.

Join in the fight.

Thank you.

-Lytchett.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:39 pm

From your linked dispatch:
MAKE THEIR WEB GAME UNPLAYABLE.

That sounds an awful lot like trying to encourage people to engage in rulebreaking conduct, likely spam to "make it unplayable" for your opponents. I would strongly recommend removing that line from your dispatch if that is not what you're intending or encouraging.

And if that is what you are intending and encouraging, DON'T. You can find the site rules here, please ensure that your intended campaign against your opponents adheres to the site rules.

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Postby Lytchett » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:29 am

Reploid Productions wrote:From your linked dispatch:
MAKE THEIR WEB GAME UNPLAYABLE.

That sounds an awful lot like trying to encourage people to engage in rulebreaking conduct, likely spam to "make it unplayable" for your opponents. I would strongly recommend removing that line from your dispatch if that is not what you're intending or encouraging.

And if that is what you are intending and encouraging, DON'T. You can find the site rules here, please ensure that your intended campaign against your opponents adheres to the site rules.

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Unfortunately, they have attempted to encourage me to do the same a while back, so 'm sorry, this is only fair retaliation. If you have a problem with it, please let me know what I can do to make it... better.. I suppose. But I am trying to retaliate powefully.
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Postby Galrythia » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:32 am

Reploid Productions wrote:From your linked dispatch:
MAKE THEIR WEB GAME UNPLAYABLE.

That sounds an awful lot like trying to encourage people to engage in rulebreaking conduct, likely spam to "make it unplayable" for your opponents. I would strongly recommend removing that line from your dispatch if that is not what you're intending or encouraging.

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Lytchett is telling the truth. We're talking about the people that kept on trying to make his time hard on NS with constant counts of harassment, empty "threats" and idiocy. I don't think he means to make their web game literally unplayable, but to do to them what they did to him.
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Postby Lytchett » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:48 am

Reploid Productions wrote:From your linked dispatch:
MAKE THEIR WEB GAME UNPLAYABLE.

That sounds an awful lot like trying to encourage people to engage in rulebreaking conduct, likely spam to "make it unplayable" for your opponents. I would strongly recommend removing that line from your dispatch if that is not what you're intending or encouraging.

And if that is what you are intending and encouraging, DON'T. You can find the site rules here, please ensure that your intended campaign against your opponents adheres to the site rules.

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Nevermind. TCC kindly withdrew.
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Postby New Excalibus » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:52 am

On behalf of The Clover Confederation, I am ordering a call to arms against The Wolf Clan. Hegiroth deserves to die.

Besides, they're all furries anyway.
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Postby New Excalibus » Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:10 am

The Wolf Clan has shown an act of aggression.
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Postby Eumaeus » Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:55 pm

I'm slightly confused by the goal of this thread. When you say "let it die" do you guys mean you want this region to cte without being refounded?
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Postby Brigadier General » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:40 pm

They have no idea what they want. They are nooblets... the territory was owned by Nazi Kaiserreich, as part of their “Kaiserbun” and The Wolf Clan refounded it to lock them out. We will not be surrendering the region to those that engage in such hate.

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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:43 pm

New Excalibus wrote:The Wolf Clan has shown an act of aggression.

Your bit late to the party.

You missed the whole drama a month ago when TWC broke an armistice then Alpha began abusing and harassing all the mediators when they ruled against him.
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Postby New Excalibus » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:46 am

Brigadier General wrote:They have no idea what they want. They are nooblets... the territory was owned by Nazi Kaiserreich, as part of their “Kaiserbun” and The Wolf Clan refounded it to lock them out. We will not be surrendering the region to those that engage in such hate.

Correction: KR gave up the land when Lytchett asked so that it could CTE as Lytchett wanted.
At least KR knows when to stop.
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Postby New Excalibus » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:47 am

Indo-Malaysia wrote:
New Excalibus wrote:The Wolf Clan has shown an act of aggression.

Your bit late to the party.

You missed the whole drama a month ago when TWC broke an armistice then Alpha began abusing and harassing all the mediators when they ruled against him.

Alpha’s like that. Oddly, Apostate has been perfectly respectful.
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Postby New Excalibus » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:02 am

Eumaeus wrote:I'm slightly confused by the goal of this thread. When you say "let it die" do you guys mean you want this region to cte without being refounded?

Yes.
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Postby Apostate » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:38 am

New Excalibus wrote:
Indo-Malaysia wrote:Your bit late to the party.

You missed the whole drama a month ago when TWC broke an armistice then Alpha began abusing and harassing all the mediators when they ruled against him.

Alpha’s like that. Oddly, Apostate has been perfectly respectful.


Why thank you...I think. Why is it odd, though?

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New Excalibus wrote:The Wolf Clan has shown an act of aggression.

Your bit late to the party.

You missed the whole drama a month ago when TWC broke an armistice then Alpha began abusing and harassing all the mediators when they ruled against him.


Indo- we knew you and Novus were going to pair off, they responded to your caterwauling so quickly and efficiently. Those negotiations were, from my perspective, an exercise in futility. I said that during negotiations, several times in fact. Or variations on that theme.

Eumaeus wrote:I'm slightly confused by the goal of this thread. When you say "let it die" do you guys mean you want this region to cte without being refounded?


Yes, these weirdly connected regions, all run by kaiserreich nobility (except Excalibus), all want us to "let the region die" so they have a shot at snapping it up. Since we did not concede to the hate mongers, they have darkened our doorstep with their esoteric petitions.
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Postby Eumaeus » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:19 pm

New Excalibus wrote:
Eumaeus wrote:I'm slightly confused by the goal of this thread. When you say "let it die" do you guys mean you want this region to cte without being refounded?

Yes.

If you wanted it to cte without being refounded, calling attention to it in the Gameplay forum is highly counterproductive to your goals.
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Postby Odinburgh » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:22 pm

You got my support.

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Postby New Excalibus » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:20 pm

Apostate wrote:
New Excalibus wrote:Alpha’s like that. Oddly, Apostate has been perfectly respectful.


Why thank you...I think. Why is it odd, though?

Your colleagues have been the polar opposite. Particularly Alpha, who has taken to telegramming me telling us we're pathetic and this is futile. Agh.
This whole thing is completely wack. This is like, the third time in Clovic history that we've had to endure this kind of stuff. Gets old. Don't know how you guys are perpetually involved in conflict and don't skip a beat. Truly remarkable.
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New Excalibus wrote:Yes.

If you wanted it to cte without being refounded, calling attention to it in the Gameplay forum is highly counterproductive to your goals.

This ain't my idea.
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Postby Odinburgh » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:56 am

Oh I won't set my expectations too high. Considering what I gone through with OSN-armistice TWC asked me to be the neutral negotiator to hammer out a deal with a fellow member of my region. I wanted information from both sides in order how to proceed and what demands were from each side. Kaiserreich was invited to in hopes to include a deal to end this feud but TWC was resistant. I settled on it would be only a OSN-TWC agreement which one of main points agreed to cessation of hostilities such as sabotage and subterfuge. I honored the TWC wishes and saw it logically the only way forward that an armistice could be agreed. At the time I was allies with both these regions. It was a hope with me stepping I could help defuse tensions. However no seven days later that attack a OSN territory which was held by a OSN which I asked Indo to confirm this to me. You see I like to gather all the facts so I know what I am getting to so I do not favor one side or the other. Yet as a result TWC brands me and my region as fascist sympathizers. That is such blatant discrimination on their low end. It should mentioned the Kreich and OSN had ongoing efforts in cleaning up their image for the betterment of human rights. TWC attacking only violates their sovereignty and right to rehabilitation. Because of what the TWC does only forces them to grow closer together in defiance and same for me towards the OSN due to the fake label calling. It is like they wanted this to fail right from the start knowingly my region was allied to them and the OSN at the current time last month.
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Postby New Excalibus » Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:18 am

Odinburgh wrote:Oh I won't set my expectations too high. Considering what I gone through with OSN-armistice TWC asked me to be the neutral negotiator to hammer out a deal with a fellow member of my region. I wanted information from both sides in order how to proceed and what demands were from each side. Kaiserreich was invited to in hopes to include a deal to end this feud but TWC was resistant. I settled on it would be only a OSN-TWC agreement which one of main points agreed to cessation of hostilities such as sabotage and subterfuge. I honored the TWC wishes and saw it logically the only way forward that an armistice could be agreed. At the time I was allies with both these regions. It was a hope with me stepping I could help defuse tensions. However no seven days later that attack a OSN territory which was held by a OSN which I asked Indo to confirm this to me. You see I like to gather all the facts so I know what I am getting to so I do not favor one side or the other. Yet as a result TWC brands me and my region as fascist sympathizers. That is such blatant discrimination on their low end. It should mentioned the Kreich and OSN had ongoing efforts in cleaning up their image for the betterment of human rights. TWC attacking only violates their sovereignty and right to rehabilitation. Because of what the TWC does only forces them to grow closer together in defiance and same for me towards the OSN due to the fake label calling. It is like they wanted this to fail right from the start knowingly my region was allied to them and the OSN at the current time last month.

I have also been called a KR sympathizer, when my regions history is literally about leaving our old region because it was going to be part of the Kaiserbund.
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Postby Apostate » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:19 am

New Excalibus wrote:I have also been called a KR sympathizer, when my regions history is literally about leaving our old region because it was going to be part of the Kaiserbund.


My puppet only refers to you as that now because you currently reside in Kaiserreich


Regardless, I could not be more bored by these regions, OSN, Montealba, Kaiserreich, Novus Lucidium and now The Clover Confederation. Each one, in their turn, has attempted to command our region to behave a certain way. It may be a bit infantile, but that brings out my inner rebellious teenager. I tell you all to go shit in a hat when I am commanded to do ridiculous things. Unfortunately, each of those regions has retaliated to our independent line of thought and then it goes tit for tat for awhile. Our MO: refounding regions important to those that did "something" wrong. The least clear cut of these is Novus Lucidium. The most clear cut is Kaiserreich and Montealba.

Excal, if you had been chill and asked for Hegiroth instead of demanding it things could have been so much different. Ah well. I have typed enough boring background for now.
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Postby Odinburgh » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:36 am

Apostate wrote:
New Excalibus wrote:I have also been called a KR sympathizer, when my regions history is literally about leaving our old region because it was going to be part of the Kaiserbund.


My puppet only refers to you as that now because you currently reside in Kaiserreich


Regardless, I could not be more bored by these regions, OSN, Montealba, Kaiserreich, Novus Lucidium and now The Clover Confederation. Each one, in their turn, has attempted to command our region to behave a certain way. It may be a bit infantile, but that brings out my inner rebellious teenager. I tell you all to go shit in a hat when I am commanded to do ridiculous things. Unfortunately, each of those regions has retaliated to our independent line of thought and then it goes tit for tat for awhile. Our MO: refounding regions important to those that did "something" wrong. The least clear cut of these is Novus Lucidium. The most clear cut is Kaiserreich and Montealba.

Excal, if you had been chill and asked for Hegiroth instead of demanding it things could have been so much different. Ah well. I have typed enough boring background for now.


I believe you missed a few like India and Interdimensional Community. However I will just move on because....

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So go ahead continue on your radical anti-fascist hunting crusade and continue to piss off more innocent regions along the way accusing them as fascists. You will find a huge uprising one day against you eventually that is way more powerful than my own region. Like The Wolf Clan is hardly monarchist but more like a corrupt Roman-esque Empire expanding its territory. Not the defenders you claim be.
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Postby New Excalibus » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:42 am

Apostate wrote:
New Excalibus wrote:I have also been called a KR sympathizer, when my regions history is literally about leaving our old region because it was going to be part of the Kaiserbund.


My puppet only refers to you as that now because you currently reside in Kaiserreich


Regardless, I could not be more bored by these regions, OSN, Montealba, Kaiserreich, Novus Lucidium and now The Clover Confederation. Each one, in their turn, has attempted to command our region to behave a certain way. It may be a bit infantile, but that brings out my inner rebellious teenager. I tell you all to go shit in a hat when I am commanded to do ridiculous things. Unfortunately, each of those regions has retaliated to our independent line of thought and then it goes tit for tat for awhile. Our MO: refounding regions important to those that did "something" wrong. The least clear cut of these is Novus Lucidium. The most clear cut is Kaiserreich and Montealba.

Excal, if you had been chill and asked for Hegiroth instead of demanding it things could have been so much different. Ah well. I have typed enough boring background for now.

My puppet only resides in KAISERREICH because I sent it there to inform them of the situation.

Being chill would not have helped. I would have been called out as a KR sympathizer and a fool no matter what. You do not have an "independent line of thought"; what you do have is a childish and dense line of thought. The very fact you are messaging us in this thread shows that you are over-defensive. At first I thought you were somewhat competent, however with this post my opinion of you has turned. Hegiroth is not part of The Wolf Clan. Hegiroth is not part of KAISERREICH. Hegiroth belongs to the boneyard, and your refounding of it can be summed up as "Haha! Take that KAISERREICH!"

And heed these words Apostate;

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Postby The Pope Is Catholic » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:19 pm

Eumaeus wrote:If you wanted it to cte without being refounded, calling attention to it in the Gameplay forum is highly counterproductive to your goals.


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Postby Galrythia » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:09 pm

Vaugely, this topic is going out of fashion. I'm not sure why TWC is always blaming KR for everything but that's just out of spite. We have a strict policy to ignore them. We will follow said policy. I suggest everyone else do the same.
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Postby New Excalibus » Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:54 pm

The Clover Confederation has ended their call to arms and resumed relations with The Wolf Clan following negotiations.
Hegiroth has been converted to a monument in accordance with everyone's wishes.
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