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Losthaven
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Postby Losthaven » Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:00 am

Losthaven votes FOR this proposal. The measure seems reasonably calculated to foster peace, and our political leaning toward pacifistic measures compels our support. We have reached a point in our evolution where natural selection is no longer a major driving force, given our ability to shape and control our environment. We continue to evolve as social creatures, and we must at some point stop culling ourselves through violence if we are to survive as a species.

We agree, however, that there are conceptual problems with putting such STRONG disarmament restraints on member nations. The concentration of community resources to apply military force toward necessary goals is one of the defining features of a nation, and I do see why the stringent restrictions proposed here are being rejected by many members.
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Kenmoria
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Postby Kenmoria » Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:13 pm

"Preventing Unjust Warfare" was defeated 10,110 votes to 2,917.
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Marxist Germany
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Postby Marxist Germany » Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:56 pm

Kenmoria wrote:
"Preventing Unjust Warfare" was defeated 10,110 votes to 2,917.

OOC:That was an unexpected lemming and delegate stomp.
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Havip
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Founded: Jul 30, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Havip » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:57 pm

"In clause 2c, how can a government be expected to weigh up these costs and returns if the concept of "expected returns" from a war is so abstract and unmeasureable?How can, for example, curbing the spread of a hostile ideology be weighed up? Furthermore, are these expected returns for the nation engaging in war or for the world as a whole? That is not clear to me." :D

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Kenmoria
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Postby Kenmoria » Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:31 am

Marxist Germany wrote:
Kenmoria wrote:
"Preventing Unjust Warfare" was defeated 10,110 votes to 2,917.

OOC:That was an unexpected lemming and delegate stomp.

(OOC: Certainly very stomping, but not entirely unexpected. The amount of delegates voting against was a surprise though; I thought delegates would be mostly in favour but the individual nations against it.)
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A representative democracy with a parliament of 535 seats
Kenmoria is Laissez-Faire on economy but centre-left on social issues
Located in Europe and border France to the right and Spain below
NS stats and policies are not canon, use the factbooks
Not in the WA despite coincidentally following nearly all resolutions
This is due to a problem with how the WA contradicts democracy
However we do have a WA mission and often participate in drafting
Current ambassador: James Lewitt

For more information, read the factbooks here.

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