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Stolen NSA Tool Used in Cyberattack to Paralyze Baltimore

Postby San Lumen » Sat May 25, 2019 12:22 pm

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/25/us/n ... imore.html

A stolen NSA known as EternalBlue was recently used on Baltimore to shut down city computers and render them unable to receive email and city services unable to process essential services such as water bills, real estate and and health alerts and the attack is ongoing. There have been workarounds used to restore some functions though handicaps remain as the city refuses to pay the ransom money and nor should they pay it.

The tool somehow wound up the in the hands of state hackers from Russia, China and North Korea and is being used as ransomware in municipalities across the world with recent attacks including places in the US such as Allentown, Pennsylvania and San Antonio.

This is what happens when you have increasing reliance on computers. When they cannot function in can shut down a municipal government.

Why such a tool like this was created and how NSA servers are so vulnerable that such a cyperweapon could be stolen is truly frightening.

What's your thoughts on this NSG?
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat May 25, 2019 12:32 pm

San Lumen wrote:This is what happens when you have increasing reliance on computers. When they cannot function in can shut down a municipal government.

Still better than the shitshow known under the names of "pen and paper" and "Veterans' Affairs".
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Postby Kowani » Sat May 25, 2019 12:38 pm

It’s not so over reliance as it is the government not updating its software.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Sat May 25, 2019 12:39 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:This is what happens when you have increasing reliance on computers. When they cannot function in can shut down a municipal government.

Still better than the shitshow known under the names of "pen and paper" and "Veterans' Affairs".

Wouldn’t even subject my worst enemy to that.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat May 25, 2019 12:41 pm

Kowani wrote:It’s not so over reliance as it is the government not updating its software.

Why are they not doing it then I wonder?

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Postby Kowani » Sat May 25, 2019 12:42 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kowani wrote:It’s not so over reliance as it is the government not updating its software.

Why are they not doing it then I wonder?

I don’t know why, but that’s what the article says.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat May 25, 2019 12:44 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kowani wrote:It’s not so over reliance as it is the government not updating its software.

Why are they not doing it then I wonder?

Money, dear boy.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Sat May 25, 2019 12:44 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kowani wrote:It’s not so over reliance as it is the government not updating its software.

Why are they not doing it then I wonder?

Probably because it’s painfully expensive?
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Sat May 25, 2019 12:49 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Why are they not doing it then I wonder?

Money, dear boy.

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Postby Nakena » Sat May 25, 2019 12:51 pm

Not using Linux
But using email
Because its 2018
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Postby Purpelia » Sat May 25, 2019 12:56 pm

Nakena wrote:Not using Linux
But using email
Because its 2018

Using linux for anything other than servers is a serious WTF at best. Accept the fact that most users want windows because they know windows because it is the best. Plus when a three letter agency sets out to hack a system they can do it irregardless of what you are running. Having it be something that's open source only makes their life easier.
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Postby Nakena » Sat May 25, 2019 12:57 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Nakena wrote:Not using Linux
But using email
Because its 2018

Using linux for anything other than servers is a serious WTF at best. Accept the fact that most users want windows because they know windows because it is the best. Plus when a three letter agency sets out to hack a system they can do it irregardless of what you are running. Having it be something that's open source only makes their life easier.


Apparently it wasn a three letter agency but some opportunistic ransomware attack.

If it was a three letter agency then this constitutes an attack on US soil against infrastructure and should require an approperiate and decisive response.

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Postby Purpelia » Sat May 25, 2019 1:01 pm

Nakena wrote:Apparently it wasn a three letter agency but some opportunistic ransomware attack.

If it was a three letter agency then this constitutes an attack on US soil against infrastructure and should require an approperiate and decisive response.

Using a tool developed by a three letter agency. Most likely it's a disgruntled employee. Did you even read the article or the OP?
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Sat May 25, 2019 1:01 pm

Maybe stop outsourcing to Booz Allen, and they wouldn't keep losing the NSA's stuff?
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Postby Souseiseki » Sat May 25, 2019 1:19 pm

i remember arguing with people years ago about whether it was a good idea for the NSA to write tools to exploit holes in our security systems instead of fixing them. pretty funny that we keep getting stories about "NSA hack they promised would never be exploited by anyone other than the NSA used to completely wreck out shit" now.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat May 25, 2019 1:44 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:Money, dear boy.

Money money money money....money

Spend the money to fix it then

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Postby Loben The 2nd » Sat May 25, 2019 2:30 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:Money money money money....money

Spend the money to fix it then


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Postby UniversalCommons » Sat May 25, 2019 4:19 pm

You add ransomware to a supercomputer and this is what you get. Before this it was Carnivore which was an ISP sucker. Instead of a single website, it would grab all the information in an insternet service provider. This is the result of scaling up existing software and adding artificial intelligence to the process. There is nothing exceptional about this. This could be done by a group of programmers or a state organization. It is more a matter of scale than anything else. Not surprised at all.
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Postby Senkaku » Sat May 25, 2019 5:23 pm

lol baltimore really just cannot catch a break rip
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Postby Trollgaard » Sat May 25, 2019 5:45 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/25/us/nsa-hacking-tool-baltimore.html

A stolen NSA known as EternalBlue was recently used on Baltimore to shut down city computers and render them unable to receive email and city services unable to process essential services such as water bills, real estate and and health alerts and the attack is ongoing. There have been workarounds used to restore some functions though handicaps remain as the city refuses to pay the ransom money and nor should they pay it.

The tool somehow wound up the in the hands of state hackers from Russia, China and North Korea and is being used as ransomware in municipalities across the world with recent attacks including places in the US such as Allentown, Pennsylvania and San Antonio.

This is what happens when you have increasing reliance on computers. When they cannot function in can shut down a municipal government.

Why such a tool like this was created and how NSA servers are so vulnerable that such a cyperweapon could be stolen is truly frightening.

What's your thoughts on this NSG?


All essential services like water, heat, power, etc should not be able to be affected by the internet. They should be manual/analogue etc. Maybe its not efficient but its safer in the long run.

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Postby San Lumen » Sat May 25, 2019 8:37 pm

Trollgaard wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/25/us/nsa-hacking-tool-baltimore.html

A stolen NSA known as EternalBlue was recently used on Baltimore to shut down city computers and render them unable to receive email and city services unable to process essential services such as water bills, real estate and and health alerts and the attack is ongoing. There have been workarounds used to restore some functions though handicaps remain as the city refuses to pay the ransom money and nor should they pay it.

The tool somehow wound up the in the hands of state hackers from Russia, China and North Korea and is being used as ransomware in municipalities across the world with recent attacks including places in the US such as Allentown, Pennsylvania and San Antonio.

This is what happens when you have increasing reliance on computers. When they cannot function in can shut down a municipal government.

Why such a tool like this was created and how NSA servers are so vulnerable that such a cyperweapon could be stolen is truly frightening.

What's your thoughts on this NSG?


All essential services like water, heat, power, etc should not be able to be affected by the internet. They should be manual/analogue etc. Maybe its not efficient but its safer in the long run.

I could not agree more

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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sat May 25, 2019 9:30 pm

Trollgaard wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/25/us/nsa-hacking-tool-baltimore.html

A stolen NSA known as EternalBlue was recently used on Baltimore to shut down city computers and render them unable to receive email and city services unable to process essential services such as water bills, real estate and and health alerts and the attack is ongoing. There have been workarounds used to restore some functions though handicaps remain as the city refuses to pay the ransom money and nor should they pay it.

The tool somehow wound up the in the hands of state hackers from Russia, China and North Korea and is being used as ransomware in municipalities across the world with recent attacks including places in the US such as Allentown, Pennsylvania and San Antonio.

This is what happens when you have increasing reliance on computers. When they cannot function in can shut down a municipal government.

Why such a tool like this was created and how NSA servers are so vulnerable that such a cyperweapon could be stolen is truly frightening.

What's your thoughts on this NSG?


All essential services like water, heat, power, etc should not be able to be affected by the internet. They should be manual/analogue etc. Maybe its not efficient but its safer in the long run.

The problem is not that they're connected to the internet. The problem is that we don't secure our cyber infrastructure enough.
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Postby Trollgaard » Sat May 25, 2019 9:38 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:
All essential services like water, heat, power, etc should not be able to be affected by the internet. They should be manual/analogue etc. Maybe its not efficient but its safer in the long run.

The problem is not that they're connected to the internet. The problem is that we don't secure our cyber infrastructure enough.


They should never have been connected to the internet in the first place. Its just a ticking time bomb.

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