manchuria independence activist are arrested

[American Pere Housh]

Hey what about Tibet? Shouldn't they be independent? I would definitely support Manchurian independence.

[Benuty]

Hey what about Tibet? Shouldn't they be independent? I would definitely support Manchurian independence.

Tibet will at least for now never be independent probably because there is too much to lose in letting it be an actual sovereign state.

[Badb Catha]

As an Ultranationalist I must sympathize with any attempt by the Manchu people to seek national independence and self-determination; I wish them well in their endeavors.

[Hammer Britannia]

I didn't know Manchuria even wanted independence.

Still, I wish them the best of luck and find this Chinese attempt to crush resistance abhorrent as per usual.

[Free China]

The Manchu people are long gone since they climbed up the ladder to the top. In fact, in 1911, many couldn't speak their Manchu language at all. I'd say, good job to the People's Republic of China in keeping tabs with this kind of people that wish to separate China, a land of ethnic people, where there is only a group of Chinese civilians and underneath that cover is multiple ethnic and such origins.

China is a land of ethnicities, not land just for the Han people of China but for other races within China. The Manchu Dynasty indeed insulted the Han people by restricting their right to do its' traditional customs and follow the Manchu way of life, China will never allow its' motherland to break apart nor be pressured from possible threats.

Tibet and Xinjiang will always be part of China, the Manchu people lead a genocide against the Dzunger people who were the original owners of the land (West Mongolians of sorts) before these Central Asian-minority Uyghur's took over with an agreement to the Qing Dynasty in respect.

I'm really annoyed with how people want to 'balkanize' China as it 'suppresses' its' minorities in China if you want to know further, then look into how China provides additional scores for the minorities to support them into good grades for schooling, whereas the Han people cannot receive that benefit at all because they are the majority in China. Those 'Tibetans' that want 'Independence' aren't real Tibetans at all but a group of Anti-Chinese bashers. Have a look at Tibet and see whether they're happy or not in aspect.

A Manchu or 'Manchurian' / Dongbei Independence will never happen at all, this crosses the line. China will never go back the period of warlordism and such conflict over ethnicity and power. As for this person, he was simply undermining people's unity and speak against the government. (Not supporter the CPC but some aspects are positive such as economic matters).

[Victores]

I thought most of Manchuria was majority Han

[Salus Maior]

Well, what did they expect would happen?

They're protesting for independence in an Eastern Authoritarian state. I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up dead.

[Salus Maior]

Hey what about Tibet? Shouldn't they be independent? I would definitely support Manchurian independence.

Tibet will at least for now never be independent probably because there is too much to lose in letting it be an actual sovereign state.

Nevermind because of it's geopolitical position it would never really be sovereign.

Either China's sphere or India's, pick one.

[Hanafuridake]

The Manchu people are long gone since they climbed up the ladder to the top. In fact, in 1911, many couldn't speak their Manchu language at all. I'd say, good job to the People's Republic of China in keeping tabs with this kind of people that wish to separate China, a land of ethnic people, where there is only a group of Chinese civilians and underneath that cover is multiple ethnic and such origins.

China is a land of ethnicities, not land just for the Han people of China but for other races within China. The Manchu Dynasty indeed insulted the Han people by restricting their right to do its' traditional customs and follow the Manchu way of life, China will never allow its' motherland to break apart nor be pressured from possible threats.

They somehow forced the Han not to practice Sinitic culture while at the same time becoming so Sinicized they couldn't even speak their own native language? This would be rather funny if it weren't a common example of doublethink in PRC propaganda.

[Salus Maior]

The Manchu people are long gone since they climbed up the ladder to the top. In fact, in 1911, many couldn't speak their Manchu language at all. I'd say, good job to the People's Republic of China in keeping tabs with this kind of people that wish to separate China, a land of ethnic people, where there is only a group of Chinese civilians and underneath that cover is multiple ethnic and such origins.

China is a land of ethnicities, not land just for the Han people of China but for other races within China. The Manchu Dynasty indeed insulted the Han people by restricting their right to do its' traditional customs and follow the Manchu way of life, China will never allow its' motherland to break apart nor be pressured from possible threats.

They somehow forced the Han not to practice Sinitic culture while at the same time becoming so Sinicized they couldn't even speak their own native language? This would be rather funny if it weren't a common example of doublethink in PRC propaganda.

I'm rather Sinical of that assertion.

[Netherspace]

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For some reason Kuomintang supporters always use mistreatment of minorities as reason why the PRC is bad, but whenever someone says that the ethnic minority regions should become their own countries they say that it isn't actually that bad. If you claim to be a democracy but don't allow for national self-determination, you're as bad as the PRC.

[Victores]

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For some reason Kuomintang supporters always use mistreatment of minorities as reason why the PRC is bad, but whenever someone says that the ethnic minority regions should become their own countries they say that it isn't actually that bad. If you claim to be a democracy but don't allow for national self-determination, you're as bad as the PRC.

Quite simply, these ethnic groups no longer hold a majority in the regions that they inhabit. If they were independent, they would be majority Han or require large scale ethnic cleansing.

[Kuominwave]

Wait, Manchu independence movement is even a thing?

[Senkaku]

I'm just shocked to learn Manchurian independence is somehow still a thing given that Manchus are rarer than fuckin Siberian tigers these days lol

[Purpelia]

The Manchu people are long gone since they climbed up the ladder to the top. In fact, in 1911, many couldn't speak their Manchu language at all. I'd say, good job to the People's Republic of China in keeping tabs with this kind of people that wish to separate China, a land of ethnic people, where there is only a group of Chinese civilians and underneath that cover is multiple ethnic and such origins.

China is a land of ethnicities, not land just for the Han people of China but for other races within China. The Manchu Dynasty indeed insulted the Han people by restricting their right to do its' traditional customs and follow the Manchu way of life, China will never allow its' motherland to break apart nor be pressured from possible threats.

They somehow forced the Han not to practice Sinitic culture while at the same time becoming so Sinicized they couldn't even speak their own native language? This would be rather funny if it weren't a common example of doublethink in PRC propaganda.

Or, and you might not believe this, they simply adopted the language because its easier to oppress your subjects if they can understand you.

[Heloin]

I'm just shocked to learn Manchurian independence is somehow still a thing given that Manchus are rarer than fuckin Siberian tigers these days lol

There's ten million of them apparently.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchu_people

[Purpelia]

I'm just shocked to learn Manchurian independence is somehow still a thing given that Manchus are rarer than fuckin Siberian tigers these days lol

There's ten million of them apparently.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchu_people

But that's like a smallish suburb by Chinese standards.

[Walkerfort]

ten million of those fuckers?


wow... but that's a drip in the ocean of Chinese people in the PRC

[The Brytish Isles]

I can’t say I’d be happy to see China balkanised. China should remain united and one, not divided and passive under the American world order.
I don’t agree with the CCP and some of China’s policies, but I don’t believe balkanising it is the answer.

[-Astoria]

There's ten million of them apparently.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchu_people

But that's like a smallish suburb by Chinese standards.

More like one half of a city.

[Gravlen]

I guess China fears the Manchurian Candidates.

[Bears Armed]

You might be looking for the Standard of the Japanese Emperor

Oh! I think that was it! Thx

That isn't a sun, it's a chrysanthemum flower.

[Rio Cana]

Manchuria no longer exists. The Manchu language is close to extinct. What use to be Manchuria is now called Northeast China. Its been divided into four provinces. Population 107 million of which the majority is Han. This means those independence activists are out of luck.

Edit - Map - https://www.mdpi.com/sensors/sensors-18 ... 2-g001.png

[New Bremerton]

I thought the Manchus were completely absorbed into the Han Chinese populace culturally and genetically despite once being the ruling class. Like the Normans. Imagine the inhabitants of Normandy declaring independence from France, or the descendants of William the Conqueror and his entourage carving out a state within present-day England and learning to speak Norman again while the rest of England reverts to Old English and paganism. But good luck to the Manchus I suppose.

[-Ocelot-]

Manchuria no longer exists. The Manchu language is close to extinct. What use to be Manchuria is now called Northeast China. Its been divided into four provinces. Population 107 million of which the majority is Han. This means those independence activists are out of luck.

Edit - Map - https://www.mdpi.com/sensors/sensors-18 ... 2-g001.png

Weird, huh? It's almost as if someone is trying to fragment and balkanize China into a bunch of piss-poor, malleable artificial countries. Like East Turkestan.