NATION

PASSWORD

Climate change claims its first mammal

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)
User avatar
Deutschess Kaiserreich
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1486
Founded: Sep 23, 2018
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Climate change claims its first mammal

Postby Deutschess Kaiserreich » Mon May 20, 2019 9:28 pm

It was described in 2016 as the first mammalian extinction caused by human-induced climate change.

Now the eradication of the Bramble Cay melomys has been officially recognised by Australia, its only known home.

The rodent lived solely on a tiny sand island in the Torres Strait, near the coast of Papua New Guinea (PNG). The species has not been seen since 2009.

Scientists say there is a chance that an identical or similar species could yet be discovered in PNG.

But they're uncertain because PNG's nearby Key River region has been little documented by research.

Australia has one of the world's highest rates of animal extinction, says the International Union for Conservation of Nature.

'Our little brown rat'
The Australian government's decision to list the species as extinct comes after the Queensland state government made an identical determination in 2016.

A state government report said it was almost certainly caused by "ocean inundation of the low-lying cay, very likely on multiple occasions, during the last decade, causing dramatic habitat loss and perhaps also direct mortality of individuals".

It added: "Significantly, this probably represents the first recorded mammalian extinction due to anthropogenic climate change."

The loss of an animal that was hardly known in the public mind has generated sadness in Australia and abroad.

"The Bramble Cay melomys was a little brown rat," said Tim Beshara, a spokesman for advocacy group The Wilderness Society.

"But it was our little brown rat and it was our responsibility to make sure it persisted. And we failed."


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-47300992

Honestly? I'm just speechless that this is not major news. This is only the sign of our times. Climate change is now actually beginning to claim major species and effect major ecosystems but we must not forget that such solutions take time.
Last edited by Farnhamia on Tue May 21, 2019 2:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Fixed typo in title (it's -> its)
The Deutsches Kaiserreich
The Kaiserriech is an alternative history timeline where Germany won the First Weltkreig. Currently, the Kaiserriech is a Federal Monarchy. Our current leader is Victoria Louise Adelheid Mathilde Charlotte the Second. For more information.
Socialist Minecraft Server wrote:Im thinking about what im thinking about what im thinking
Ethnic Female German living in [REDACTED] (Not comfortable with revealing my identity).

Proud Monarch of the ♔♚IMPERION COALITION♚♔
Retconning lots of lore so expect some non-sensical parts in my factbooks.

User avatar
Duhon
Minister
 
Posts: 2767
Founded: Nov 21, 2018
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Duhon » Mon May 20, 2019 9:30 pm

It's not major news. Why?

We're not dying off yet.

User avatar
Inkopolitia
Envoy
 
Posts: 320
Founded: Mar 06, 2019
New York Times Democracy

Postby Inkopolitia » Mon May 20, 2019 9:30 pm

Damn... Well, that's bad news for the future. More animals are gonna go down this way.
<コ:彡 United States Of Inkopolita <コ:彡

"From the Sea, We have Emerged!"

The Woomy Times: Kala Mary, Minister of Internal & External affairs, heads historic Inkling-Russian meeting | Inkopolitian-North American meeting to solidify the alliance of the 2 nations
Capitalism, Libertarianism
Communism
♀️ I'm a woman ♀️

User avatar
Highever
Diplomat
 
Posts: 749
Founded: Dec 21, 2014
New York Times Democracy

Postby Highever » Mon May 20, 2019 9:32 pm

And yet people somehow think that human activity doesnt in any way cause massive harm to the planet. It's all totally natural. :roll:
ΦΣK
⚦ Through the souls of your brothers and sisters I take My place amongst the Three; through their pleasure I ascend my Throne. Pleasure, for Pleasure's sake! ⚦
Remember Bloody Sunday
Dante Alighieri wrote:There is no greater sorrow than to recall happiness in times of misery
Charlie Chaplin wrote:Nothing is permanent in this wicked world, not even our troubles.

User avatar
Aclion
Senator
 
Posts: 3906
Founded: Apr 12, 2016
Anarchy

Postby Aclion » Mon May 20, 2019 9:35 pm

nuclear power when?
A free society rests on four boxes: The soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammo box.
XKI: Recruiter, TITO Knight
TEP: WA Executive Staff member
Forest: Cartographer
Oatland: Caesar, Cartographer

It is the citizen's duty to understand which box to use, and when.

User avatar
Great Eddy
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 20
Founded: Mar 28, 2019
Democratic Socialists

Postby Great Eddy » Mon May 20, 2019 9:36 pm

This is just depressing.
I fired corrupt politicians and then became a Corrupt Dictatorship, that's irony right there.
Back to Democratic Socialists!

User avatar
Gormwood
Minister
 
Posts: 2200
Founded: Mar 25, 2019
New York Times Democracy

Postby Gormwood » Mon May 20, 2019 9:58 pm

Why would climate change deniers give a shit about "a fucking rat"?
The Most Hated Individual On NSG. It's a badge of honor.
Bloodthirsty savages who call for violence against the Right while simultaneously being unarmed defenseless sissies who will get slaughtered by the gun-toting Right in a civil war.

User avatar
Spearos
Secretary
 
Posts: 29
Founded: Sep 05, 2018
Father Knows Best State

Postby Spearos » Mon May 20, 2019 9:59 pm

Climate change deniers are a menace to society. We should shut down their sources of fake news and silence their voices so that future extinctions are prevented.

User avatar
Atkemri
Minister
 
Posts: 2134
Founded: Apr 14, 2017
Capitalist Paradise

Postby Atkemri » Mon May 20, 2019 10:00 pm

Eh sad, but hopefully governments will get those Carbon Recapture things up in large numbers relatively soon and we can stop worrying ad much
ATKEMRIAN NATIONAL NEWS: B.A.T (Berber Autonomous Territory) is having it's third annual أسبوع الاحتلال (Occupation week) denouncing the take over of Berber lands and 'mistreatment' of their people

ASP Foundation
No NS stats are used
A 16 civilization, according to this index.
I'm a member of the Angel's Alliance! Are you?

User avatar
Kowani
Negotiator
 
Posts: 7210
Founded: Apr 01, 2018
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Mon May 20, 2019 10:03 pm

Fuuuuck.

In the interest of claiming that all is not irrevocably lost, this. Note that this is only applicable under certain conditions and is in no way a substitute for actually solving the problem.
Narcissistic (Hedonistic) Nihilist. Yes, I am edgy. I know.
Dorgival R. Seč of the NS Parliament!
Atheist and still proud of it. Technophile to the extreme.
Post-Capitalist, Post-Nationalist. Go beyond.
Oh, and a Pragmatist. Somehow.
Rights are functionally just privileges society has deemed important.
Neanderthaland wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:Contraception can't fail if you don't have sex in term no unwanted pregnancy.

Your entire religion is based on the idea that this isn't true.

User avatar
Bear Stearns
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1552
Founded: Dec 02, 2018
Corporate Bordello

Postby Bear Stearns » Mon May 20, 2019 10:05 pm

Let's see Paul Allen's mammal.
The Bear Stearns Companies, Inc. is a New York-based global investment bank, securities trading and brokerage firm. Its main business areas are capital markets, investment banking, wealth management and global clearing services. Bear Stearns was founded as an equity trading house on May Day 1923 by Joseph Ainslie Bear, Robert B. Stearns and Harold C. Mayer with $500,000 in capital.
383 Madison Ave,
New York, NY 10017
Vince Vaughn

User avatar
Gudmund
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 149
Founded: Aug 02, 2018
Tyranny by Majority

Postby Gudmund » Mon May 20, 2019 10:16 pm

I live in Aus, my dad said the roads used to get frosty with an icy slush all the time in Winter. It wouldn't snow but sometimes the icy slush would cover most of the ground. Hasn't seen it happen here in over 20 years since.
Civilisation:
Tier 8, Level 3, Type 7
An 8.625 civilization - according to this index
▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
Leader: Albani Gudmund
Region: The United Federations
Setting: FT (2060+), the ruling nation of a non-human, low population, galactic Empire spanning just beyond its solar system. Primarily using advanced, mass-produced droids to handle most menial tasks and to fill the ranks of its military alongside living soldiers.

User avatar
Costa Fierro
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 18509
Founded: Dec 09, 2013
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Costa Fierro » Mon May 20, 2019 10:24 pm

It's not major news because it's one obscure species on an island. It's not dramatic or substantial enough to warrant front page coverage.
"Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist." - George Carlin

User avatar
Paradeavenlisian States
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 61
Founded: Feb 10, 2019
New York Times Democracy

Postby Paradeavenlisian States » Mon May 20, 2019 10:29 pm

Deutschess Kaiserreich wrote:
Honestly? I'm just speechless that this is not major news.

Well, this was reported 3 months ago so it might have been considered major news back then.

Costa Fierro wrote:It's not major news because it's one obscure species on an island. It's not dramatic or substantial enough to warrant front page coverage.

Yes it is an obscure species but still, considering that, like Deutschess Kaissereich quoted, it is still the first mammalian extinction as a result of human-sped climate change so whether or not it is obscure it's still quite relevant news, in my opinion. Also, that's like say that the mentioned species or even its extinction doesn't matter in any meaning of the word which I personally disagree.

Anyways, I believe that is quite sad and now that this has happened, I hope more people who believe climate change is "a hoax made by the scientists" become increasingly more aware of what is really happening, otherwise their ignorance is beyond control. I do hope there is a solution to this or otherwise not only will the animals suffer, but we will suffer too(and still have some who STILL don't think this is a disaster).
Last edited by Paradeavenlisian States on Mon May 20, 2019 11:01 pm, edited 2 times in total.
ParadeavenlisianStates
A mystical,isolated archipelagic nation, well known for its magicians, hobbit-like houses, phoenixes, devotion to social welfare and healthcare, its pecular energy, its isolation, its eco-friendly policies, and its hazardous permanent storm ring. The nation is packed with mystical creatures, landscapes, myths,legends, secrets, absurd natural phenomena, treasures, plants, structures, monuments, temples, and many other things found nowhere else.
In addition, we don't use all NS stats or policies and we are not defenceless either(yes I'm talking to you F7ers).
Note:Don't confuse us with The Hobbit or Harry Potter or Neverending story...or you will see.....

User avatar
The Lone Alliance
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6041
Founded: May 25, 2005
Left-Leaning College State

Postby The Lone Alliance » Tue May 21, 2019 2:12 am

Costa Fierro wrote:It's not major news because it's one obscure species on an island. It's not dramatic or substantial enough to warrant front page coverage.

This really, it's not a major species it was a limited species trapped in one tiny area that made it extra fragile to it, if you had dropped a truckload of cats on the mouse's territory it likely would have had the same results.

Is it good?
No.

Is it really something that unexpected?
No.

Its it something that hasn't happened repeatedly on islands in that part of the world?
No.

They likely knew this was a losing battle back in the 90s, in fact looking it up they knew this species would eventually be at risk and they did absolutely nothing to actually try and save it.

Perhaps that is the real reason they don't like talking about it, if people had acted sooner with a captive breeding program it's likely it would have survived in captivity.
(That's not much better but at least it'd be alive)

Really it's very easy for something to go horribly wrong on those islands, there's been so many stupid things that have rendered countless species in that part of the world extinct.

So sadly this is nothing new.
Last edited by The Lone Alliance on Tue May 21, 2019 2:44 am, edited 3 times in total.
"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." -Herman Goering
--------------
War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it; -William Tecumseh Sherman

User avatar
Ors Might
Senator
 
Posts: 4307
Founded: Nov 01, 2016
Capitalist Paradise

Postby Ors Might » Tue May 21, 2019 9:15 am

Ok?

I mean, it sucks I guess but it’s not like obscure species, species that were fragile to begin with, going extinct was unheard of before humans started industrializing. This isn’t to day global warming isn’t a problem, just that the loss of a species of rodent isn’t something incredibly damaging, to the earth or to humanity as a whole.

User avatar
Gormwood
Minister
 
Posts: 2200
Founded: Mar 25, 2019
New York Times Democracy

Postby Gormwood » Tue May 21, 2019 9:17 am

Ors Might wrote:Ok?

I mean, it sucks I guess but it’s not like obscure species, species that were fragile to begin with, going extinct was unheard of before humans started industrializing. This isn’t to day global warming isn’t a problem, just that the loss of a species of rodent isn’t something incredibly damaging, to the earth or to humanity as a whole.

What people dismiss when it's A Fucking Rat they will act shocked with when it moves up to polar bears and beyond.
The Most Hated Individual On NSG. It's a badge of honor.
Bloodthirsty savages who call for violence against the Right while simultaneously being unarmed defenseless sissies who will get slaughtered by the gun-toting Right in a civil war.

User avatar
Ors Might
Senator
 
Posts: 4307
Founded: Nov 01, 2016
Capitalist Paradise

Postby Ors Might » Tue May 21, 2019 9:20 am

Gormwood wrote:
Ors Might wrote:Ok?

I mean, it sucks I guess but it’s not like obscure species, species that were fragile to begin with, going extinct was unheard of before humans started industrializing. This isn’t to day global warming isn’t a problem, just that the loss of a species of rodent isn’t something incredibly damaging, to the earth or to humanity as a whole.

What people dismiss when it's A Fucking Rat they will act shocked with when it moves up to polar bears and beyond.

Might be more useful to explain to people how shocks to ecosystems, extinctions for example, could negatively impact humanity. There’s little reason to give a shit about non-human species that aren’t valuable to us in some way.

User avatar
-Astoria
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 123
Founded: Mar 14, 2019
New York Times Democracy

Postby -Astoria » Tue May 21, 2019 9:28 am

>not-so-cute thing, centuries ago:
:o
>cute thing, now:
:meh: *sleeps*
The Federal Republic of Astoria | Il-Rokikkraku Kadaru du' Akdalu
'I need a new phrase...'
|Overview | |Anthem | |Policies | |Climate | |Leader | |Capital Act | |News | Ø| Defences (also here) | |Licence plates | |Food | |Tropes | |Anthro scale | |Q&A | | §|NS ranks (ignore tax) | Current year - 2019

Prime Minister of Forum 7
Me
Yuyencia files
NS' resident ☪ furry (no, not like those ones *yech*)
You can call me RJ if you want
A 9.75 civilisation according to this index. | A Class 0.6 civilisation according to this index.

User avatar
San Lumen
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 27845
Founded: Jul 02, 2009
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby San Lumen » Tue May 21, 2019 9:33 am

Ors Might wrote:Ok?

I mean, it sucks I guess but it’s not like obscure species, species that were fragile to begin with, going extinct was unheard of before humans started industrializing. This isn’t to day global warming isn’t a problem, just that the loss of a species of rodent isn’t something incredibly damaging, to the earth or to humanity as a whole.

This could have been prevented if humans cared more about the planet then themselves and stopped polluting the air and water and treating forests like they are an annoyance.

User avatar
Gormwood
Minister
 
Posts: 2200
Founded: Mar 25, 2019
New York Times Democracy

Postby Gormwood » Tue May 21, 2019 9:35 am

Ors Might wrote:
Gormwood wrote:What people dismiss when it's A Fucking Rat they will act shocked with when it moves up to polar bears and beyond.

Might be more useful to explain to people how shocks to ecosystems, extinctions for example, could negatively impact humanity. There’s little reason to give a shit about non-human species that aren’t valuable to us in some way.

The island of Tuvalu is turning into Atlantis because of climate change, forcing its inhabitants into exile and people still don't give a shit.
The Most Hated Individual On NSG. It's a badge of honor.
Bloodthirsty savages who call for violence against the Right while simultaneously being unarmed defenseless sissies who will get slaughtered by the gun-toting Right in a civil war.

User avatar
Ors Might
Senator
 
Posts: 4307
Founded: Nov 01, 2016
Capitalist Paradise

Postby Ors Might » Tue May 21, 2019 9:36 am

San Lumen wrote:
Ors Might wrote:Ok?

I mean, it sucks I guess but it’s not like obscure species, species that were fragile to begin with, going extinct was unheard of before humans started industrializing. This isn’t to day global warming isn’t a problem, just that the loss of a species of rodent isn’t something incredibly damaging, to the earth or to humanity as a whole.

This could have been prevented if humans cared more about the planet then themselves and stopped polluting the air and water and treating forests like they are an annoyance.

Explain the ecological importance that this rodent species held and maybe you’ll prove that your reaction isn’t hysterical.

User avatar
Ors Might
Senator
 
Posts: 4307
Founded: Nov 01, 2016
Capitalist Paradise

Postby Ors Might » Tue May 21, 2019 9:36 am

Gormwood wrote:
Ors Might wrote:Might be more useful to explain to people how shocks to ecosystems, extinctions for example, could negatively impact humanity. There’s little reason to give a shit about non-human species that aren’t valuable to us in some way.

The island of Tuvalu is turning into Atlantis because of climate change, forcing its inhabitants into exile and people still don't give a shit.

But complaining about a rat will be different because..?

User avatar
San Lumen
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 27845
Founded: Jul 02, 2009
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby San Lumen » Tue May 21, 2019 9:37 am

Ors Might wrote:
Gormwood wrote:What people dismiss when it's A Fucking Rat they will act shocked with when it moves up to polar bears and beyond.

Might be more useful to explain to people how shocks to ecosystems, extinctions for example, could negatively impact humanity. There’s little reason to give a shit about non-human species that aren’t valuable to us in some way.

or just care about every species instead of being so selfish, Amazing concept i know. Thinking like this makes me wish dinosaurs never went extinct

User avatar
Frolloist Union
Civilian
 
Posts: 1
Founded: May 21, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Frolloist Union » Tue May 21, 2019 9:38 am

Climate change is a hoax

Next

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Adeptus Astarti, Alvecia, An Alan Smithee Nation, Anglomir, Arstotzzkka, Bluelight-R006, Cannot think of a name, East African Unitary State, Germanys States, Grapasia, Ifreann, Karteria, LiberNovusAmericae, Minimark, Nationalist Teksas, New haven america, Newark Aristocracy, Novus America, Ostroeuropa, Petrolheadia, Rumlja, Senkaku, Sinlenian Zindujan, The Blaatschapen, The Brine, The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp, The New California Republic, United Island States of Southeast Asia, Zanetonia

Advertisement

Remove ads