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[DRAFT] Repeal GAR#8 "World Assembly Headquarters"

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Jocospor
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[DRAFT] Repeal GAR#8 "World Assembly Headquarters"

Postby Jocospor » Fri May 17, 2019 6:38 pm

This General Assembly,

Of the opinion that, as this World Assembly has dramatically evolved since the time of GAR#8's enactment, the parameters outlined within GAR#8 are insufficient, pertaining to the following:

  • This World Assembly's membership has increased near threefold since GAR#8's enactment;
  • GAR#8 makes no distinction between the General Assembly or the Security Council; and
  • GAR#8 is purely practical, and while supposedly its facilities are appropriate, it would seem to neglect any ethical consideration of World Assembly diplomats, including but not limited to:

    • circumstances involving those afflicted by disability;
    • circumstances involving those belonging to any particular minority;
    • circumstances involving those subscribing to the traditions and practises of various religions or cultures, those being either national or ethnic; and
    • circumstances involving World Assembly diplomats that are, for whatever reason, unable to work alongside other World Assembly diplomats;
Thus, reaffirming that GAR#8's World Assembly Headquarters are, vague and outdated for this World Assembly.

Furthermore, resenting the fact that international legislation can label its "envoys" as "drunks, stoners, weirdos, military fruitcakes, sex addicts, rejects, inmates"; albeit somewhat humorous, finding this claim to be most insulting, slanderous and unfounded, levelled against member nations whose staff have dedicated many hours to perpetuating the advancement of this World Assembly.

Hereby, for that advancement of this World Assembly, repeals GAR#8.
HAIL THE CONFEDERATION!
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Postby Tinfect » Fri May 17, 2019 6:59 pm

OOC:
You can't mention the Security Council in a GA resolution, for one.

Two, clause three, honestly doesn't make any sense, are you trying to argue that the WA Headquarters is legally prohibited from having accommodations, or that it isn't required to? Either way, I don't really see it as a credible argument, assuming the builders have any sense, and we must, accessibility would be handled by the OBM, or by request by Member-States regarding their offices. Please stop trying to gain Social Justice points by hamfistedly shoving vaguely inclusive-sounding arguments into your legislation, no one believes you.

Your first argument, by the way, is, just silly, the number of Member-States is utterly meaningless as an argument.
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Postby Jocospor » Fri May 17, 2019 8:23 pm

Tinfect wrote:OOC:
You can't mention the Security Council in a GA resolution, for one.

Two, clause three, honestly doesn't make any sense, are you trying to argue that the WA Headquarters is legally prohibited from having accommodations, or that it isn't required to? Either way, I don't really see it as a credible argument, assuming the builders have any sense, and we must, accessibility would be handled by the OBM, or by request by Member-States regarding their offices. Please stop trying to gain Social Justice points by hamfistedly shoving vaguely inclusive-sounding arguments into your legislation, no one believes you.

Your first argument, by the way, is, just silly, the number of Member-States is utterly meaningless as an argument.

*the Delegate's Office passes glances, raises eyebrows and takes a collective breath*

Truly, we're touched for your overwhelmingly polite response.

The number of member nations is highly relevant. Unless you're willing to be quite imaginative - and, honestly, international legislation should leave nothing to the imagination - a building that was designed nearly eleven years ago when the World Assembly was ~9,000 nations strong fundamentally cannot support a World Assembly that is now about ~22,000 (we haven't checked the precise number) strong.

Regarding our ethical concerns, there is no direct stipulation within GAR#8 that covers any of what our repeal outlines. As GAR#8, for the most part, is comprehensive, we think it's safe to assume that the ethical and social workings of its World Assembly Headquarters were not properly (if at all) considered. Needless to say, they should be.

Lastly, this is the "World Assembly Headquarters." Last time we checked, the World Assembly comprised of both the General Assembly and the Security Council. Not mentioning the Security Council in this instance, then, seems preposterous. Could we please have many an opinion on this front?
HAIL THE CONFEDERATION!
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JOCOSPOR | FOREIGN AFFAIRS OFFICE


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Postby Araraukar » Fri May 17, 2019 8:52 pm

Jocospor wrote:The number of member nations is highly relevant. Unless you're willing to be quite imaginative - and, honestly, international legislation should leave nothing to the imagination - a building that was designed nearly eleven years ago when the World Assembly was ~9,000 nations strong fundamentally cannot support a World Assembly that is now about ~22,000 (we haven't checked the precise number) strong.

OOC: We've all been roleplaying in it quite a bit longer than you. There are multiple reasons for why it works, but if you're not already familiar with the elasticity of "reality" when it comes to the WAHQ, then I don't think you've really paid any attention at all... :rofl:

IC: "I've never even heard of a security council. If a committee by that name needs to exist, I'm sure they'll be housed wherever the gnomes are housed. WAHQ is for diplomats and their staff."

OOC: The SC is an OOC construct, as far as GA resolutions are concerned.
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Postby Tinfect » Sat May 18, 2019 12:03 am

Jocospor wrote:*the Delegate's Office passes glances, raises eyebrows and takes a collective breath*

Truly, we're touched for your overwhelmingly polite response.

The number of member nations is highly relevant. Unless you're willing to be quite imaginative - and, honestly, international legislation should leave nothing to the imagination - a building that was designed nearly eleven years ago when the World Assembly was ~9,000 nations strong fundamentally cannot support a World Assembly that is now about ~22,000 (we haven't checked the precise number) strong.

Regarding our ethical concerns, there is no direct stipulation within GAR#8 that covers any of what our repeal outlines. As GAR#8, for the most part, is comprehensive, we think it's safe to assume that the ethical and social workings of its World Assembly Headquarters were not properly (if at all) considered. Needless to say, they should be.

Lastly, this is the "World Assembly Headquarters." Last time we checked, the World Assembly comprised of both the General Assembly and the Security Council. Not mentioning the Security Council in this instance, then, seems preposterous. Could we please have many an opinion on this front?


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Postby Kenmoria » Sat May 18, 2019 1:25 am

(OOC: Mentioning the Security Council has been confirmed to be metagaming by a lot of precedent. The SC can mention the GA, but the GA can’t mention the SC.)

“All of the problems you describe are quite easily fixable. Disabilities can be accounted for, and GA #008 suggests they would be. The same applies to minorities and religions. Lastly, if somebody cannot work with other people, in my view, that is their problem. Also, I am certain at least three of the terms you describe as insulting apply to me, and debatably a few of the others.

Furthermore, there is the more obvious problem of what would happen next. How are we supposed to debate if there isn’t a place in which to do so? What about the many ambassadors who have been exiled or otherwise have no place to go to in their home nation? I’m almost certain a few nations exist entirely within the confines of the WAHQ.”
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sat May 18, 2019 5:04 am

Ooc: GenSec's first ruling was to declare references to the SC Metagaming violations. Best decision we ever made.

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Postby Lord Dominator » Sat May 18, 2019 8:29 pm

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