Alt-Left Manifesto

[Communal concils]

Best way to ruin the left forever.

Depends on what "Left".

I see it as rejuvenation of a old movement.

[Communal concils]

This is amazing comedy. You can't be fascist when you support central planning.

I don't want to kill of the mentally disabled or mentally ill, I support feminism, and I think the state is a tool(not the spiritual god of fascism).

also, I am a socialist because I support the ideal of an cooperative. I support Nationalization, protectionism and the welfare . Yet, I can't be called a state capitalist because I want to abolish the corporation.

Just call me a democratic socialist, because I think socialism can be achieve through the ballot box.

We can all see quite plainly thst you're trying to make leftists look bad. You can go away now.

Nice conspiracy theories. Regardless of the exact spectrum, Libertarians like to depict certain things as oppressive(when they clearly aren't). I am not making leftism look bad, It's rather the libertarian socialist. How are stoners, winning upper class kids and work abolitionist(lazy people) revolutionary ?

[Heloin]

You also want to set up the Sex Stasi for no other reason then you're complex about other peoples relationships.

I actually believe that bourgeois society has corrupted relationships, turning them into a something that exist for pleasure.

Honestly, I want to remove sexism and problems involving sexual minorities(just like you).
It's just that I think that abolishing gender roles and creating a "New Man and Women" will fix the issue. My justification for being anti-Libertine is because it is consumerism for sex. It is constant consumption for now reason, and limits rational thought with impulsive behaviors.

Look how scary I am sleeping with women. What fucking problems have I caused the world I wonder?

[Ifreann]

We can all see quite plainly thst you're trying to make leftists look bad. You can go away now.

Nice conspiracy theories. Regardless of the exact spectrum, Libertarians like to depict certain things as oppressive(when they clearly aren't). I am not making leftism look bad, It's rather the libertarian socialist. How are stoners, winning upper class kids and work abolitionist(lazy people) revolutionary ?

It's not a conspiracy theory, I think you're acting alone.

[Cekoviu]

You also want to set up the Sex Stasi for no other reason then you're complex about other peoples relationships.

I actually believe that bourgeois society has corrupted relationships, turning them into a something that exist for pleasure.

As we all know, relationships are designed to make you miserable. If you're happy in a relationship (or by yourself!), you're doing it wrong.

[Cekoviu]

I actually believe that bourgeois society has corrupted relationships, turning them into a something that exist for pleasure.

Honestly, I want to remove sexism and problems involving sexual minorities(just like you).
It's just that I think that abolishing gender roles and creating a "New Man and Women" will fix the issue. My justification for being anti-Libertine is because it is consumerism for sex. It is constant consumption for now reason, and limits rational thought with impulsive behaviors.

Look how scary I am sleeping with women. What fucking problems have I caused the world I wonder?

Women in general are sexual minorities, obviously. Whether you've had sex with or are attracted to other women doesn't even factor in.

[Liriena]

Look, I have a lot of respect for Marxism-Leninism, but I draw the line at banding together with puritanical radfems and embracing an "orthodoxy" that enables or even encourages the subjugation of minorities in the name of a misplaced idea of "populism" and "extreme collectivism".

Also,

3. The left should not meme, it must create art. art that appeals to the masses and is unique. This art would be the spiritual successor to the art movement called Dada.

Memes are pretty much the contemporary equivalent of avant garde art, so you're basically asking leftists to reinvent the wheel for no good reason.

4. We should have our own intellectual dark web. We should have philosophers that challenge the system. Exactly like the anti-SJW's "Intellectuals", but with more meaning. Instead of using Proletariat, Bourgeoisie or any term of old, we should rebrand everything in Populist rhetoric.

You already have those philosophers. You have Chomsky, Zizek and countless podcasters and Youtubers.

5. We should encourage people to read a book.

The only thing in this manifesto that isn't just bad tankie shit trying to pass itself off as innovation.

6. We should be offensive in our own way. Offensive in rejecting individualism and libertarian socialism. Offensive in rejecting Zionism, and Offensive in challenging conservative and liberal social views.

The left should definitely stop playing defense all the time... but you lost me at that tankie shit.

[Communal concils]

I actually believe that bourgeois society has corrupted relationships, turning them into a something that exist for pleasure.

Honestly, I want to remove sexism and problems involving sexual minorities(just like you).
It's just that I think that abolishing gender roles and creating a "New Man and Women" will fix the issue. My justification for being anti-Libertine is because it is consumerism for sex. It is constant consumption for now reason, and limits rational thought with impulsive behaviors.

Look how scary I am sleeping with women. What fucking problems have I caused the world I wonder?

You seem to like making thing simplistic.

Well, sexual behaviors are only wrong when they are done in certain ways. STDs, sexual abuse and other behaviors are just a few things that people use their primitive pleasures for.

[Cekoviu]

Look how scary I am sleeping with women. What fucking problems have I caused the world I wonder?

You seem to like making thing simplistic.

Well, sexual behaviors are only wrong when they are done in certain ways. STDs, sexual abuse and other behaviors are just a few things that people use their primitive pleasures for.

People spread STDs for sexual pleasure? What?
I mean, I've heard of several instances of that, but it's like a couple people.

[Liriena]

Next time anyone says the left isn’t going more and more towards extremism, I’ll link this thread

So you want to sabotage your own anti-leftist delusions? Because that's what you're gonna be doing. Tankies are nothing new, tankies trying to resurrect Stalinism is nothing new, and if I know anything about the left, is that this manifesto is going to get a lot of pushbacks from leftists like myself who don't genuinely like tankie shit.

[Heloin]

Look how scary I am sleeping with women. What fucking problems have I caused the world I wonder?

You seem to like making thing simplistic.

Well, sexual behaviors are only wrong when they are done in certain ways. STDs, sexual abuse and other behaviors are just a few things that people use their primitive pleasures for.

Firstly stop trying to act like some kind of high and mighty Vulcan. You happen to not like the idea of sex, strange but you don't have to like it or do it. But keep the hell out of other people's fucking, you aren't wanted into the bedroom and it's kinda weird to show up uninvited like that.

Secondly, what the actual fuck are you on about? You are saying I'm making things simplistic when you're comparing me being a sexual minority to abusers and the rare freak who tries to spread STD's to other people. That's pretty messed up matey.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Just what we need. Another authoritarian leftist movement.

[Communal concils]

Look, I have a lot of respect for Marxism-Leninism, but I draw the line at banding together with puritanical radfems and embracing an "orthodoxy" that enables or even encourages the subjugation of minorities in the name of a misplaced idea of "populism" and "extreme collectivism".

Also,

3. The left should not meme, it must create art. art that appeals to the masses and is unique. This art would be the spiritual successor to the art movement called Dada.

Memes are pretty much the contemporary equivalent of avant garde art, so you're basically asking leftists to reinvent the wheel for no good reason.

4. We should have our own intellectual dark web. We should have philosophers that challenge the system. Exactly like the anti-SJW's "Intellectuals", but with more meaning. Instead of using Proletariat, Bourgeoisie or any term of old, we should rebrand everything in Populist rhetoric.

You already have those philosophers. You have Chomsky, Zizek and countless podcasters and Youtubers.

5. We should encourage people to read a book.

The only thing in this manifesto that isn't just bad tankie shit trying to pass itself off as innovation.

6. We should be offensive in our own way. Offensive in rejecting individualism and libertarian socialism. Offensive in rejecting Zionism, and Offensive in challenging conservative and liberal social views.

The left should definitely stop playing defense all the time... but you lost me at that tankie shit.

1. well, I am a supporter of radical feminist rather than being one. I praise their will to cut off ties to liberal feminism. I will say, that I want to unify people. I see any minority groups as just a sub-group of a larger single group(the proletariat). It is the clash of two main classes, Lower and Upper class. I seek a proletariat society in which the only identity is proletariat.

2. well, I think new art should be created. Not really a recreation of dada, but one that takes influences of it.

3. well, i believe that there simply needs to be a philosopher that is unorthodox to "Traditional" leftism. Many of these youtubers, are lazy anarchist that disguised bread and circuses as unique and meaningful opinions.

4. I don't even believe that the soviet actions in the Prague uprising were great. For some one that likes respects "Tankies", you sure like to call them that name.


5. What is this shit. Libertarian socialist seem to depend on name calling.

[Ifreann]

Look, I have a lot of respect for Marxism-Leninism, but I draw the line at banding together with puritanical radfems and embracing an "orthodoxy" that enables or even encourages the subjugation of minorities in the name of a misplaced idea of "populism" and "extreme collectivism".

Also,

3. The left should not meme, it must create art. art that appeals to the masses and is unique. This art would be the spiritual successor to the art movement called Dada.

Memes are pretty much the contemporary equivalent of avant garde art, so you're basically asking leftists to reinvent the wheel for no good reason.

4. We should have our own intellectual dark web. We should have philosophers that challenge the system. Exactly like the anti-SJW's "Intellectuals", but with more meaning. Instead of using Proletariat, Bourgeoisie or any term of old, we should rebrand everything in Populist rhetoric.

You already have those philosophers. You have Chomsky, Zizek and countless podcasters and Youtubers.

5. We should encourage people to read a book.

The only thing in this manifesto that isn't just bad tankie shit trying to pass itself off as innovation.

6. We should be offensive in our own way. Offensive in rejecting individualism and libertarian socialism. Offensive in rejecting Zionism, and Offensive in challenging conservative and liberal social views.

The left should definitely stop playing defense all the time... but you lost me at that tankie shit.

1. well, I am a supporter of radical feminist rather than being one. I praise their will to cut off ties to liberal feminism. I will say, that I want to unify people. I see any minority groups as just a sub-group of a larger single group(the proletariat). It is the clash of two main classes, Lower and Upper class. I seek a proletariat society in which the only identity is proletariat.

2. well, I think new art should be created. Not really a recreation of dada, but one that takes influences of it.

3. well, i believe that there simply needs to be a philosopher that is unorthodox to "Traditional" leftism. Many of these youtubers, are lazy anarchist that disguised bread and circuses as unique and meaningful opinions.

4. I don't even believe that the soviet actions in the Prague uprising were great. For some one that likes respects "Tankies", you sure like to call them that name.


5. What is this shit. Libertarian socialist seem to depend on name calling.
5.

Yes, save leftism by not doing leftist philosophy. Very definitely not right wing stuff there, chief.

[Communal concils]

You seem to like making thing simplistic.

Well, sexual behaviors are only wrong when they are done in certain ways. STDs, sexual abuse and other behaviors are just a few things that people use their primitive pleasures for.

Firstly stop trying to act like some kind of high and mighty Vulcan. You happen to not like the idea of sex, strange but you don't have to like it or do it. But keep the hell out of other people's fucking, you aren't wanted into the bedroom and it's kinda weird to show up uninvited like that.

Secondly, what the actual fuck are you on about? You are saying I'm making things simplistic when you're comparing me being a sexual minority to abusers and the rare freak who tries to spread STD's to other people. That's pretty messed up matey.

1. "Live and let live" is a very unrealistic worldview. At some point, some one or thing will interfere. It is destined to happen.

2. I didn't compare you to those thing., but I said that people do all those things for pleasure.

[Communal concils]

You seem to like making thing simplistic.

Well, sexual behaviors are only wrong when they are done in certain ways. STDs, sexual abuse and other behaviors are just a few things that people use their primitive pleasures for.

People spread STDs for sexual pleasure? What?
I mean, I've heard of several instances of that, but it's like a couple people.

a "Couple" people. Atlanta, Georgia has high rates of HIV. That's more than a couple people. Honestly, I expect a poor city with a hedonist rich class to forcing people to live those life styles.

[Communal concils]

Just what we need. Another authoritarian leftist movement.

That's the only good one.

[Heloin]

Firstly stop trying to act like some kind of high and mighty Vulcan. You happen to not like the idea of sex, strange but you don't have to like it or do it. But keep the hell out of other people's fucking, you aren't wanted into the bedroom and it's kinda weird to show up uninvited like that.

Secondly, what the actual fuck are you on about? You are saying I'm making things simplistic when you're comparing me being a sexual minority to abusers and the rare freak who tries to spread STD's to other people. That's pretty messed up matey.

1. "Live and let live" is a very unrealistic worldview. At some point, some one or thing will interfere. It is destined to happen.

2. I didn't compare you to those thing., but I said that people do all those things for pleasure.

Until that point in time comes, you can keep up you're little Vulcan act of pretending to be more enlightened then people who want to be in relationships, and get the hell out the the bedroom. It's really weird you just standing over there past the doorway, kinda creepy.

But you did. You said that "problems involving sexual minorities(just like you)" then when I asked what you could mean by that you brought up sexual abusers and the like.

[Cekoviu]

People spread STDs for sexual pleasure? What?
I mean, I've heard of several instances of that, but it's like a couple people.

a "Couple" people. Atlanta, Georgia has high rates of HIV. That's more than a couple people. Honestly, I expect a poor city with a hedonist rich class to forcing people to live those life styles.

I mean, it has a high HIV rate. That doesn't mean people are intentionally spreading it to satisfy some fetish.

[Communal concils]

1. "Live and let live" is a very unrealistic worldview. At some point, some one or thing will interfere. It is destined to happen.

2. I didn't compare you to those thing., but I said that people do all those things for pleasure.

Until that point in time comes, you can keep up you're little Vulcan act of pretending to be more enlightened then people who want to be in relationships, and get the hell out the the bedroom. It's really weird you just standing over there past the doorway, kinda creepy.

But you did. You said that "problems involving sexual minorities(just like you)" then when I asked what you could mean by that you brought up sexual abusers and the like.

1. I don't try to be elitist in my beliefs, I want to share the ideal of everyone being equal in social status. I do believe that people(including myself) are not always right. However, How do we know that the libertine is correct ? also, I would not care about the special snowflake feels of offended individual.

2. I said that I want to end sexism and problems involving sexual minorities(just like you). sexism and problems involving sexual minorities.

We both want to end problems involving sexism and discrimination against non-nonconforming groups. Sorry, if you misinterpret it.

[Communal concils]

a "Couple" people. Atlanta, Georgia has high rates of HIV. That's more than a couple people. Honestly, I expect a poor city with a hedonist rich class to forcing people to live those life styles.

I mean, it has a high HIV rate. That doesn't mean people are intentionally spreading it to satisfy some fetish.

Well, perhaps it just means that people don't care. They don't care if they have a sexually transmitted disease.

[Communal concils]

Next time anyone says the left isn’t going more and more towards extremism, I’ll link this thread

So you want to sabotage your own anti-leftist delusions? Because that's what you're gonna be doing. Tankies are nothing new, tankies trying to resurrect Stalinism is nothing new, and if I know anything about the left, is that this manifesto is going to get a lot of pushbacks from leftists like myself who don't genuinely like tankie shit.

"Left"-Libertarians are never the really a meaningful opposition.Every push back in history you did failed. I hope that there would be links to this, because I want my ideals to spread in this democracy that supports "Free" speech.

[Heloin]

Until that point in time comes, you can keep up you're little Vulcan act of pretending to be more enlightened then people who want to be in relationships, and get the hell out the the bedroom. It's really weird you just standing over there past the doorway, kinda creepy.

But you did. You said that "problems involving sexual minorities(just like you)" then when I asked what you could mean by that you brought up sexual abusers and the like.

1. I don't try to be elitist in my beliefs, I want to share the ideal of everyone being equal in social status. I do believe that people(including myself) are not always right. However, How do we know that the libertine is correct ? also, I would not care about the special snowflake feels of offended individual.

2. I said that I want to end sexism and problems involving sexual minorities(just like you). sexism and problems involving sexual minorities.

We both want to end problems involving sexism and discrimination against non-nonconforming groups. Sorry, if you misinterpret it.

You sure sound it most of the time.

just a few things that people use their primitive pleasures for.

And you calling people not wanting there lives interfered with by you snowflakes doesn't help you argument.

The biggest problem I face is the kind of people who want to waste their and my time with who I can be sleeping with.

I mean, it has a high HIV rate. That doesn't mean people are intentionally spreading it to satisfy some fetish.

Well, perhaps it just means that people don't care. They don't care if they have a sexually transmitted disease.

Most people don't know until they start seeing the serious side effects. Unless you want to blame the HIV/AIDS crisis on the victims, which no one would do right?

[Communal concils]

1. I don't try to be elitist in my beliefs, I want to share the ideal of everyone being equal in social status. I do believe that people(including myself) are not always right. However, How do we know that the libertine is correct ? also, I would not care about the special snowflake feels of offended individual.

2. I said that I want to end sexism and problems involving sexual minorities(just like you). sexism and problems involving sexual minorities.

We both want to end problems involving sexism and discrimination against non-nonconforming groups. Sorry, if you misinterpret it.

You sure sound it most of the time.

just a few things that people use their primitive pleasures for.

And you calling people not wanting there lives interfered with by you snowflakes doesn't help you argument.

The biggest problem I face is the kind of people who want to waste their and my time with who I can be sleeping with.

Well, perhaps it just means that people don't care. They don't care if they have a sexually transmitted disease.

Most people don't know until they start seeing the serious side effects. Unless you want to blame the HIV/AIDS crisis on the victims, which no one would do right?

1. I don't believe that my views are perfection, but I just think it is more meaningful and effective than what my opposition offers.

2. Well, I don't think that people always know what's best for themselves. In western society, they are told to feel in a certain way. It is of complete propaganda that people believe in "Live and let live". In western society, people can choose to believe in any form of propaganda. Companies, books, movies and other media have swayed people to think a certain way. However, a effort to convincing them through any means might show that. Honestly, it is also a waste of time to say that some one shouldn't get involve.

3. It has to do with various things. One is that people are not educated correctly about sexual contact, another is that society encourages people to have sex frequently, a third one is that groups have convince them that it doesn't matter. In some cases, it is that person's fault, but for many it is societies fault.

[Heloin]

You sure sound it most of the time.

And you calling people not wanting there lives interfered with by you snowflakes doesn't help you argument.

The biggest problem I face is the kind of people who want to waste their and my time with who I can be sleeping with.

Most people don't know until they start seeing the serious side effects. Unless you want to blame the HIV/AIDS crisis on the victims, which no one would do right?

1. I don't believe that my views are perfection, but I just think it is more meaningful and effective than what my opposition offers.

2. Well, I don't think that people always know what's best for themselves. In western society, they are told to feel in a certain way. It is of complete propaganda that people believe in "Live and let live". In western society, people can choose to believe in any form of propaganda. Companies, books, movies and other media have swayed people to think a certain way. However, a effort to convincing them through any means might show that. Honestly, it is also a waste of time to say that some one shouldn't get involve.

3. It has to do with various things. One is that people are not educated correctly about sexual contact, another is that society encourages people to have sex frequently, a third one is that groups have convince them that it doesn't matter. In some cases, it is that person's fault, but for many it is societies fault.

To points 1 and 2, bullshit.

Welp, you are trying to blame the victims... I don't know why I'm disappointed.