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Do they exist?

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No
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Nakena
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Postby Nakena » Wed May 08, 2019 8:45 pm

The entire concept is complete garbage invented by basement dwelling brainlets and belongs into the trash.

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Postby Senkaku » Wed May 08, 2019 8:46 pm

yes we already know this, ok thank u science why did we need a thread again
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Postby Kowani » Wed May 08, 2019 8:48 pm

Senkaku wrote:yes we already know this, ok thank u science why did we need a thread again

Oh, you thought opinions would be changed based on evidence? Wait 3, 4 pages.
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Postby Nakena » Wed May 08, 2019 8:48 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Senkaku wrote:yes we already know this, ok thank u science why did we need a thread again

Read my quote. I've wanted to make a thread cuz of it for some time.


Maybe change the title to "Do they exist?" or "A valid concept?"

That be more inviting for a debate rather than a blank statement.
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Postby Senkaku » Wed May 08, 2019 8:48 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Senkaku wrote:yes we already know this, ok thank u science why did we need a thread again

Read my quote.

no
I've wanted to make a thread cuz of it for some time.

ok
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Postby Galloism » Wed May 08, 2019 8:50 pm

While there are statistically identifiable mating trends in both men and women, that disproportionately benefit certain men and women over others (for men, height particularly, while for women, facial symmetry particularly), that doesn’t equate to an alpha male/beta male thing.
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Postby Slotted Floppies » Wed May 08, 2019 8:50 pm

As likely the only Incel on NSG it pains me every time I have to read about alphas and betas.

It’s like people are incapable of evaluating everything as good/bad.
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Postby Heloin » Wed May 08, 2019 8:52 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Oh, you thought opinions would be changed based on evidence? Wait 3, 4 pages.

Yeah I want NS to team up against the uneducated ns'ers on the topic. It's good for society, it's a sexist idea anyhow.

That doesn't sound much like debate. That sounds like bullying.

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Postby Slotted Floppies » Wed May 08, 2019 8:53 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Slotted Floppies wrote:As likely the only Incel on NSG it pains me every time I have to read about alphas and betas.

It’s like people are incapable of evaluating everything as good/bad.

By incel do you mean the toxic women hating sexist community?


Yeah that’s how you would describe it.
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Postby Grenartia » Wed May 08, 2019 8:54 pm

Heloin wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Yeah I want NS to team up against the uneducated ns'ers on the topic. It's good for society, it's a sexist idea anyhow.

That doesn't sound much like debate. That sounds like bullying.


I mean, no more than any other debate that's had on here.
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Postby Kowani » Wed May 08, 2019 8:55 pm

Heloin wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Yeah I want NS to team up against the uneducated ns'ers on the topic. It's good for society, it's a sexist idea anyhow.

That doesn't sound much like debate. That sounds like bullying.

In the same way we collectively bully antivaxxers, yes.
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Postby Heloin » Wed May 08, 2019 8:56 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Heloin wrote:That doesn't sound much like debate. That sounds like bullying.


I mean, no more than any other debate that's had on here.

But most people don't openly admit that part of the plan.

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Postby Kaystein » Wed May 08, 2019 8:57 pm

It sounds like you need to reach out and find new social circles. You interact with fascists too much. Point for that being, I've don't see the word "cuck" used outside of the alt-right, or trolls in general. Most normal people have enough self-respect to find better language.

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Postby Grenartia » Wed May 08, 2019 8:57 pm

Slotted Floppies wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:By incel do you mean the toxic women hating sexist community?


Yeah that’s how you would describe it.


As a former incel myself, its a pretty accurate description.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed May 08, 2019 8:57 pm

I think some individuals can be or come across as more assertive than others.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed May 08, 2019 8:57 pm

Galloism wrote:While there are statistically identifiable mating trends in both men and women, that disproportionately benefit certain men and women over others (for men, height particularly, while for women, facial symmetry particularly), that doesn’t equate to an alpha male/beta male thing.


I thought facial symmetry was one of those things humans universally found appealing.
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Postby Nakena » Wed May 08, 2019 8:58 pm

Kaystein wrote:It sounds like you need to reach out and find new social circles. You interact with fascists too much. Point for that being, I've don't see the word "cuck" used outside of the alt-right, or trolls in general. Most normal people have enough self-respect to find better language.


I'd say most people outside the politically interested dont even know those words.

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Postby Valrifell » Wed May 08, 2019 8:59 pm

Nakena wrote:
Kaystein wrote:It sounds like you need to reach out and find new social circles. You interact with fascists too much. Point for that being, I've don't see the word "cuck" used outside of the alt-right, or trolls in general. Most normal people have enough self-respect to find better language.


I'd say most people outside the politically interested dont even know those words.


I knew cuckold, but only through Shakespeare.
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Postby Slotted Floppies » Wed May 08, 2019 8:59 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Slotted Floppies wrote:
Yeah that’s how you would describe it.


As a former incel myself, its a pretty accurate description.



Incels never leave.
But this isn’t the thread to discuss your larping or incels.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed May 08, 2019 8:59 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Galloism wrote:While there are statistically identifiable mating trends in both men and women, that disproportionately benefit certain men and women over others (for men, height particularly, while for women, facial symmetry particularly), that doesn’t equate to an alpha male/beta male thing.


I thought facial symmetry was one of those things humans universally found appealing.


We do like symmetry, as a general rule.
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Postby Grenartia » Wed May 08, 2019 9:02 pm

Slotted Floppies wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
As a former incel myself, its a pretty accurate description.



Incels never leave.


I guess I'm proof otherwise.

But this isn’t the thread to discuss your larping


Fam, if anyone here is larping, its you.

or incels.


On the contrary, incels are very much relevant to the topic at hand. Hence why you brought them up in the first place.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed May 08, 2019 9:03 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Slotted Floppies wrote:

Incels never leave.


I guess I'm proof otherwise.

But this isn’t the thread to discuss your larping


Fam, if anyone here is larping, its you.

or incels.


On the contrary, incels are very much relevant to the topic at hand. Hence why you brought them up in the first place.


When symmetry and all that are brought into the discussion, yeah, incels do come to mind.
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Postby Xmara » Wed May 08, 2019 9:03 pm

I think those terms are stupid and I hate when people on the internet tell me that I must only be attracted to big, buff jerk jock-types (aka alphas) because I am female, and apparently all women are attracted to big, buff jerk jocks.
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Postby Galloism » Wed May 08, 2019 9:05 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Galloism wrote:While there are statistically identifiable mating trends in both men and women, that disproportionately benefit certain men and women over others (for men, height particularly, while for women, facial symmetry particularly), that doesn’t equate to an alpha male/beta male thing.


I thought facial symmetry was one of those things humans universally found appealing.

It is to a degree, but for men height is more important. Far more.

It’s also worth noting OkCupid found 80% of men are below average attractiveness,when rated by women, which is an interesting finding.
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Postby Slotted Floppies » Wed May 08, 2019 9:05 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Slotted Floppies wrote:

Incels never leave.


I guess I'm proof otherwise.

But this isn’t the thread to discuss your larping


Fam, if anyone here is larping, its you.

or incels.


On the contrary, incels are very much relevant to the topic at hand. Hence why you brought them up in the first place.



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