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Islamic Discussion Thread ٥: Free Tajweed, Absolutely Halaal

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What denomination of Islam are you part of?

Sunni
8
21%
Salafi
2
5%
Shi'a
4
10%
Qur'ani
1
3%
Ahmadi
1
3%
IbaaDi
1
3%
Sufi (either Sunni or Shi'a)
6
15%
Non-Denominational
8
21%
Other
8
21%
 
Total votes : 39

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Islamic Discussion Thread ٥: Free Tajweed, Absolutely Halaal

Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Apr 07, 2019 6:04 pm

!!!!!!السَّلامُ عَلَيْكُم وَ رَحْمَةُ اللَّهِ وَ بَرَكاتُهُ
بِسْمِ اللهِ الرَّحْمَنِ الرَّحِيم
Assalaamu 'Alaikum wa RaHmatullahi wa Barakatuhu!!!!!!
Bismillahi rraHmaani rraHeem
May the peace, mercy and blessings of Allah SWT be upon you!!!!!!
In the name of Allah, the Merciful Benefactor, the Merciful Redeemer.

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Postby Zizou » Sun Apr 07, 2019 6:05 pm

Oooh, we got a discord server now? Nice!
Ibn Taymiyyah wrote:It is said that Allah (SWT) allows the just state to remain even if it is led by unbelievers, but Allah (SWT) will not allow the oppressive state to remain even if it is led by Muslims. And it is said that the world will endure with justice and unbelief, but it will not endure with oppression and Islam

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Postby AhmadiMuslim1889 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:07 pm

Assalaam o alakium wa rahmatullah wa barakatu to you all.

My first post here. :)
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Postby AhmadiMuslim1889 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:09 pm

Also, you forgot the previous thread. :p
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Postby The Man Who Shot Jiminy Cricket » Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:14 pm

Let us open this thread with a Qur'an verse followed by pertinent ahadith.


al-An`am 6:38 wrote: There is not an animal in the earth, nor a flying creature flying on two wings, but they are peoples like unto you. We have neglected nothing in the Book (of Our decrees). Then unto their Lord they will be gathered.


Sahih Muslim: 5567 wrote:Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (Peace be upon him) as saying: An ant had bitten a Prophet (one amongst the earlier Prophets) and he ordered that the colony of the ants should be burnt. And Allah revealed to him: "Because of an ant's bite you have burnt a community from amongst the communities which sings My glory."


Sahih al-Bukhari: 3141 wrote:Allah had once forgiven a prostitute. She passed by a dog panting near a well. Seeing that thirst had nearly killed him, she took off her shoe, tied it to her scarf, and drew up some water. Allah forgave her.



Sahih al-Bukhari: 2195 wrote:There is no Muslim who plants a tree or sows seeds and then a bird, or a person, or an animal eats from it except that it is regarded as a charity for him
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Muslim: 1955 wrote:Verily, Allah has prescribed excellence in everything. If you have to kill, then kill in the best manner. If you slaughter, then slaughter in the best manner. Let one of you sharpen his knife so his animal feels no pain.



Sunan al-Nasa'i: 4446 wrote:Whoever kills so much as a sparrow unjustly will have it pleading to Allah on the Day of Resurrection, saying: O Lord, he killed me for no reason, and he did not kill be for any beneficial purpose.
1 By the morning hours
2 And by the night when it is stillest,
3 Thy Lord hath not forsaken thee nor doth He hate thee,
4 And verily the latter portion will be better for thee than the former,
5 And verily thy Lord will give unto thee so that thou wilt be content.
6 Did He not find thee an orphan and protect (thee) ?
7 Did He not find thee wandering and direct (thee) ?
8 Did He not find thee destitute and enrich (thee) ?
9 Therefor the orphan oppress not,
10 Therefor the beggar drive not away,
11 Therefor of the bounty of thy Lord be thy discourse


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Postby Kowani » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:30 pm

Well, I’m here now.
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Christian Confederation wrote:Contraception can't fail if you don't have sex in term no unwanted pregnancy.

Your entire religion is based on the idea that this isn't true.

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Postby Zizou » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:49 pm

Kowani wrote:Well, I’m here now.

Salam brother! :)
Ibn Taymiyyah wrote:It is said that Allah (SWT) allows the just state to remain even if it is led by unbelievers, but Allah (SWT) will not allow the oppressive state to remain even if it is led by Muslims. And it is said that the world will endure with justice and unbelief, but it will not endure with oppression and Islam

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Postby Kowani » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:53 pm

Zizou wrote:
Kowani wrote:Well, I’m here now.

Salam brother! :)

I’m not entirely sure if brother is the right word, but thank you.
Narcissistic (Hedonistic) Nihilist. Yes, I am edgy. I know. Open to TG’s.
Atheist and still proud of it. Technophile to the extreme.
Catalan Separatist.
Oh, and a Pragmatist. Somehow.
Rights are functionally just privileges society has deemed important.
Neanderthaland wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:Contraception can't fail if you don't have sex in term no unwanted pregnancy.

Your entire religion is based on the idea that this isn't true.

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Postby AhmadiMuslim1889 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:56 pm

Kowani wrote:
Zizou wrote:Salam brother! :)

I’m not entirely sure if brother is the right word, but thank you.

No but it is for me :p
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Postby Kowani » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:58 pm

AhmadiMuslim1889 wrote:
Kowani wrote:I’m not entirely sure if brother is the right word, but thank you.

No but it is for me :p

Blegh. I feel small.
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Atheist and still proud of it. Technophile to the extreme.
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Rights are functionally just privileges society has deemed important.
Neanderthaland wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:Contraception can't fail if you don't have sex in term no unwanted pregnancy.

Your entire religion is based on the idea that this isn't true.

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Postby AhmadiMuslim1889 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:00 pm

Kowani wrote:
AhmadiMuslim1889 wrote:No but it is for me :p

Blegh. I feel small.

:p
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Postby AhmadiMuslim1889 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:05 pm

*pulls out some tajweed*

Alright, who wants to consume this with me?
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Postby Zizou » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:07 pm

Kowani wrote:
Zizou wrote:Salam brother! :)

I’m not entirely sure if brother is the right word, but thank you.

Eh, we're all brothers in humanity anyways ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ibn Taymiyyah wrote:It is said that Allah (SWT) allows the just state to remain even if it is led by unbelievers, but Allah (SWT) will not allow the oppressive state to remain even if it is led by Muslims. And it is said that the world will endure with justice and unbelief, but it will not endure with oppression and Islam

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Postby AhmadiMuslim1889 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:08 pm

Zizou wrote:
Kowani wrote:I’m not entirely sure if brother is the right word, but thank you.

Eh, we're all brothers in humanity anyways ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This.

And Kowani, you're my eternal little brother. ;)
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Postby Kowani » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:14 pm

Zizou wrote:
Kowani wrote:I’m not entirely sure if brother is the right word, but thank you.

Eh, we're all brothers in humanity anyways ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Okay, that’s true.

AhmadiMuslim1889 wrote:
Zizou wrote:Eh, we're all brothers in humanity anyways ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This.

And Kowani, you're my eternal little brother. ;)

Yay, I believe?
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Atheist and still proud of it. Technophile to the extreme.
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Oh, and a Pragmatist. Somehow.
Rights are functionally just privileges society has deemed important.
Neanderthaland wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:Contraception can't fail if you don't have sex in term no unwanted pregnancy.

Your entire religion is based on the idea that this isn't true.

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Postby AhmadiMuslim1889 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:18 pm

Kowani wrote:
Zizou wrote:Eh, we're all brothers in humanity anyways ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Okay, that’s true.

AhmadiMuslim1889 wrote:This.

And Kowani, you're my eternal little brother. ;)

Yay, I believe?

Yay! We believe!
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Postby Zizou » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:18 pm

AhmadiMuslim1889 wrote:*pulls out some tajweed*

Alright, who wants to consume this with me?

I can just devour all this info
Ibn Taymiyyah wrote:It is said that Allah (SWT) allows the just state to remain even if it is led by unbelievers, but Allah (SWT) will not allow the oppressive state to remain even if it is led by Muslims. And it is said that the world will endure with justice and unbelief, but it will not endure with oppression and Islam

RIP Jaylon

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Postby AhmadiMuslim1889 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:19 pm

Zizou wrote:
AhmadiMuslim1889 wrote:*pulls out some tajweed*

Alright, who wants to consume this with me?

I can just devour all this info

Yesh...yesh...
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Postby A m e n r i a » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:21 pm

Oof..lemme kick this off with some thought fuel...You guys ever of how similar angels are to eldritch abominations? Both are genderless, have creepy true forms, and are from a distant dimension.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:36 pm

A m e n r i a wrote:Oof..lemme kick this off with some thought fuel...You guys ever of how similar angels are to eldritch abominations? Both are genderless, have creepy true forms, and are from a distant dimension.

Idk what Eldritch is. Nor would I consider the angels to be in a distant dsminsion. Then again no one knows where Jannah is so :unsure:

Sheesh, all this multideminsion/multiverse stuff is messing with my head.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:46 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
A m e n r i a wrote:Oof..lemme kick this off with some thought fuel...You guys ever of how similar angels are to eldritch abominations? Both are genderless, have creepy true forms, and are from a distant dimension.

Idk what Eldritch is. Nor would I consider the angels to be in a distant dsminsion. Then again no one knows where Jannah is so :unsure:

Sheesh, all this multideminsion/multiverse stuff is messing with my head.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/eldritch

For reference, these are more like angels in the Abrahamic Scriptures than these are.
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Postby A m e n r i a » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:05 am

New haven america wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Idk what Eldritch is. Nor would I consider the angels to be in a distant dsminsion. Then again no one knows where Jannah is so :unsure:

Sheesh, all this multideminsion/multiverse stuff is messing with my head.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/eldritch

For reference, these are more like angels in the Abrahamic Scriptures than these are.


You got the weirdness bit right.

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Postby Negarakita » Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:00 am

Epic Mukattim moment, everyone's favourite crypto-sufi is here
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:48 am

Assalamualaikum.

A m e n r i a wrote:Oof..lemme kick this off with some thought fuel...You guys ever of how similar angels are to eldritch abominations? Both are genderless, have creepy true forms, and are from a distant dimension.

Is this the one you are talking about?

I have yet to hear about them, similar to Amin, but considering the definitions that New haven america provided and this, I think that.....it seems the two have some similarities, perhaps. But then again, my knowledge about those are limited.
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Postby A m e n r i a » Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:47 am

Samudera Darussalam wrote:Assalamualaikum.

A m e n r i a wrote:Oof..lemme kick this off with some thought fuel...You guys ever of how similar angels are to eldritch abominations? Both are genderless, have creepy true forms, and are from a distant dimension.

Is this the one you are talking about?

I have yet to hear about them, similar to Amin, but considering the definitions that New haven america provided and this, I think that.....it seems the two have some similarities, perhaps. But then again, my knowledge about those are limited.


I mean, it's scary enough to freak Prophet Muhammad out for a while, and he's literally seen Hell!

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