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Occidentaleland
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Postby Occidentaleland » Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:47 am

Hail the confederation!

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Postby Blood Wine » Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:40 pm

Jocospor wrote:
Blood Wine wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand, jocospor, the guy that literally confessed to being nazi in their discord that both of them refuse to ban

OOC: The person in question I gave a stern talking to, reminding him that the Confederation was an RP and OOC region only. He said he understood and that he would not behave how he had again. He does not deserve to be banned: he has broken none of the Discord rules and he has not maliciously used our servers (as others of your acquaintance (including yourself) have). He is not a member of the Confederation either, so the above whining is, yet again, objectively false.

EDIT: And I might point out that the "guy" in question only behaved poorly because he was baited into it by you and your mates when you thought it would be a fun idea to grief our server. Thanks for that, really productive and mature. You certainly don't see any Confederation members going across into your servers and trying to destabilise them with spam and other childish things. But I thought you were all so morally superior?? Oh well, I suppose that's why Discord didn't choose to delete the accounts of Confederation members.


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the one currently sitting at a higher rating then your version?

Anyways, your attempt at false flagging initially worked, but tough luck: discord reversed it
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Cedoria
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Cedoria » Wed Apr 03, 2019 3:40 pm

Thuzbekistan wrote:So because a nazi exists, we should ban them? So they do what? Go to a nazi friendly area where their ideology is helped to grow and encourages other nazis, creating s community? That's what happens when you just ban people for their beliefs. They grow stronger.

Because Nazism was at its strongest in 1946 when it was violently smashed into oblivion. Yeah, they all just grew stronger didn't they?

I mean, do the people who make this argument HEAR how dumb it is in their heads before they type it?
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Cedoria
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Cedoria » Wed Apr 03, 2019 3:41 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Cedoria wrote:
Indeed, and the day Europe's players are as obnoxious as CCD's, it might be relevant to the liberation.


As it is, I'm pleased to see this awful repeal being voted down with the contempt it deserves.

Which members are you describing as awful?

I didn't. I described the repeal was awful.

If you wanted me to name CCD players who I thought were awful I probably could, but not without rule violations. I am not going to do so therefore.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Wed Apr 03, 2019 5:31 pm

Cedoria wrote:
Thuzbekistan wrote:So because a nazi exists, we should ban them? So they do what? Go to a nazi friendly area where their ideology is helped to grow and encourages other nazis, creating s community? That's what happens when you just ban people for their beliefs. They grow stronger.

Because Nazism was at its strongest in 1946 when it was violently smashed into oblivion. Yeah, they all just grew stronger didn't they?

I mean, do the people who make this argument HEAR how dumb it is in their heads before they type it?

There's a difference between how you treat individuals and how you treat armed Nazi groups. Ugh. Extreme reactions and constant attacks on people increase the attractiveness of the ideology due to perceived martyrdom. That's why religious martyrs are so effective at spreading religion.

But we've been yelled at once for threadjacking. I'll make a thread at some point talking about how society treats extreme ideologies.
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:15 pm

Thuzbekistan wrote:So because a nazi exists, we should ban them? So they do what? Go to a nazi friendly area where their ideology is helped to grow and encourages other nazis, creating s community? That's what happens when you just ban people for their beliefs. They grow stronger.

CCD is a Nazi-friendly area, as their own officers profess.
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Postby Joushiki Nante Iranai » Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:54 pm

Wishing not to take a side in this clearly controversial topic, the delegate of the Universal Pact hereby informs the Security Council of their intention to abstain during this vote, and apologises for not having mentioned this at the start of the vote.
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Postby Hijlistan Arg » Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:16 pm

"A preposterous attempt. We vote AGAINST."

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Postby Ransium » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:09 pm

"Repeal "Liberate Confederation of Corrupt Dictators"" was defeated 14,991 votes to 1,919.


I also had to further remove spacing from the title to accommodate the tag.

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Postby Jocospor » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:45 pm

Ransium wrote:
"Repeal "Liberate Confederation of Corrupt Dictators"" was defeated 14,991 votes to 1,919.


I also had to further remove spacing from the title to accommodate the tag.

But light blue is so pleasing unto the eye, don't you think?
HAIL THE CONFEDERATION!
CONFEDERATION OF CORRUPT DICTATORS | IMPERIAL OFFICES
JOCOSPOR | CENTRAL IMPERIAL DIREKTORATE


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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:47 am

Ransium wrote:
"Repeal "Liberate Confederation of Corrupt Dictators"" was defeated 14,991 votes to 1,919.


I also had to further remove spacing from the title to accommodate the tag.

Good, it's dead.

*Prods it with a stick to make sure*

Yup. Dead.
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Postby Castelia » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:22 am

The New California Republic wrote:Good, it's dead.

*Prods it with a stick to make sure*

Yup. Dead.


It was never alive in the first place, friend. It was a hollow shell, a zombie animated by the dark magics, if you will. *suspenseful music plays*
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:54 am

Castelia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Good, it's dead.

*Prods it with a stick to make sure*

Yup. Dead.


It was never alive in the first place, friend. It was a hollow shell, a zombie animated by the dark magics, if you will. *suspenseful music plays*

It was dead on arrival. You'll get no argument from me there.
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They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Fri Apr 05, 2019 3:21 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Castelia wrote:
It was never alive in the first place, friend. It was a hollow shell, a zombie animated by the dark magics, if you will. *suspenseful music plays*

It was dead on arrival. You'll get no argument from me there.

Yes, even I never expected this to pass. We openly said from before it even went to vote that it was an April Fools' joke.

We're working on a very different draft at the moment in the GA. We would have given this a more serious go, but again we never wanted it to pass - we still like the badge. ;)
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Postby Armaros » Fri Apr 05, 2019 3:24 am

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:It was dead on arrival. You'll get no argument from me there.

Yes, even I never expected this to pass. We openly said from before it even went to vote that it was an April Fools' joke.

We're working on a very different draft at the moment in the GA. We would have given this a more serious go, but again we never wanted it to pass - we still like the badge. ;)

Sounds like an awesome tactic. Miserably fail to pass something? "We always liked the badge!".
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:24 am

Armaros wrote:Sounds like an awesome tactic. Miserably fail to pass something? "We always liked the badge!".

You can't honestly tell me that this looked like a serious proposal.

We've also been saying we like the badge since the moment we got it. I'd love to add a Commend badge next to it, but that might prove a little more difficult.
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Postby Armaros » Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:27 am

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Armaros wrote:Sounds like an awesome tactic. Miserably fail to pass something? "We always liked the badge!".

You can't honestly tell me that this looked like a serious proposal.

We've also been saying we like the badge since the moment we got it. I'd love to add a Commend badge next to it, but that might prove a little more difficult.

You lot create such garbage proposals it's hard to see the difference. As to the "badge": I too like to claim I love something if I can't do anything about it.
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Postby Jocospor » Fri Apr 05, 2019 6:41 pm

Armaros wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:You can't honestly tell me that this looked like a serious proposal.

We've also been saying we like the badge since the moment we got it. I'd love to add a Commend badge next to it, but that might prove a little more difficult.

You lot create such garbage proposals it's hard to see the difference. As to the "badge": I too like to claim I love something if I can't do anything about it.

OOC: The Pope probably couldn't repaint the Sistine Chapel ceiling, either.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:20 pm

Jocospor wrote:
Armaros wrote:You lot create such garbage proposals it's hard to see the difference. As to the "badge": I too like to claim I love something if I can't do anything about it.

OOC: The Pope probably couldn't repaint the Sistine Chapel ceiling, either.

Whatever your analogy attempt is trying for, it didn't exactly work :eyebrow:
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Postby The Gilded Star » Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:46 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:Whatever your analogy attempt is trying for, it didn't exactly work :eyebrow:


Yo, expert at terrible analogies here.

I think he's saying he doesn't like the liberation, but since it's never going away, he's learned how to accept it.

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Postby Jocospor » Sat Apr 06, 2019 12:57 am

The Gilded Star wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:Whatever your analogy attempt is trying for, it didn't exactly work :eyebrow:


Yo, expert at terrible analogies here.

I think he's saying he doesn't like the liberation, but since it's never going away, he's learned how to accept it.

OOC: The Pope likes his Sistine Chapel ceiling. We like our liberation badge. The Pope couldn't get rid of his Sistine Chapel ceiling if he tried. We couldn't get rid of our liberation badge if we tried.
HAIL THE CONFEDERATION!
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JOCOSPOR | CENTRAL IMPERIAL DIREKTORATE


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Postby RiderSyl » Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:13 am

Jocospor wrote:
The Gilded Star wrote:
Yo, expert at terrible analogies here.

I think he's saying he doesn't like the liberation, but since it's never going away, he's learned how to accept it.

The Pope likes his Sistine Chapel ceiling. We like our liberation badge. The Pope couldn't get rid of his Sistine Chapel ceiling if he tried. We couldn't get rid of our liberation badge if we tried.


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Postby Jocospor » Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:22 am

RiderSyl wrote:
Jocospor wrote:The Pope likes his Sistine Chapel ceiling. We like our liberation badge. The Pope couldn't get rid of his Sistine Chapel ceiling if he tried. We couldn't get rid of our liberation badge if we tried.


Y'all are only comparable to the Catholic Church in one way.

OOC: And what's that?
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Postby New Armenian Union » Sat Apr 06, 2019 2:54 am

Jocospor wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:
Y'all are only comparable to the Catholic Church in one way.

OOC: And what's that?

The analogy of the Sistine Chapel thingy.

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Postby RiderSyl » Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:38 am

Jocospor wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:
Y'all are only comparable to the Catholic Church in one way.

And what's that?

Hopeless crusading.
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