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The Mueller probe is complete

Postby South Odreria » Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:20 pm

The report has been submitted to the justice department. The AG will read it, prepare a summary to be sent to congress, and decide whether to release the entire report or not. Maybe things will happen.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:24 pm

South Odreria wrote:The report has been submitted to the justice department. The AG will read it, prepare a summary to be sent to congress, and decide whether to release the entire report or not.

1.) this will be on the Trump mega thread
2.) Frankly your OP sucks
3.) whats to debate?
4.) political blogs need not be on NS general
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Postby South Odreria » Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:54 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
South Odreria wrote:The report has been submitted to the justice department. The AG will read it, prepare a summary to be sent to congress, and decide whether to release the entire report or not.

1.) this will be on the Trump mega thread
2.) Frankly your OP sucks
3.) whats to debate?
4.) political blogs need not be on NS general


Lol I never said my OP didn't suck. A thing happened, and I put up a thread about that thing happening.
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Postby Far Easter Republic » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:00 pm

People are talking about this on the News even though nobody knows a thing yet

P.S. The OP is doo-doo
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:04 pm

South Odreria wrote:The report has been submitted to the justice department. The AG will read it, prepare a summary to be sent to congress, and decide whether to release the entire report or not. Maybe things will happen.

Please pad out the OP some more with some additional content and your own opinion.
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Postby Diarcesia » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:20 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
South Odreria wrote:The report has been submitted to the justice department. The AG will read it, prepare a summary to be sent to congress, and decide whether to release the entire report or not. Maybe things will happen.

Please pad out the OP some more with some additional content and your own opinion.


I thought it's a blog, but it is DIO fact

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:22 pm

South Odreria wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:1.) this will be on the Trump mega thread
2.) Frankly your OP sucks
3.) whats to debate?
4.) political blogs need not be on NS general


Lol I never said my OP didn't suck. A thing happened, and I put up a thread about that thing happening.

You need to write out a better OP here if you don’t want the thread locked
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Postby Chan Island » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:26 pm

Looking forward to seeing what happens when the report is leaked. Will be interesting to see what's inside.

Who's willing to bet the Trump White House will fight tooth and nail to keep the report away from the public eye?

Also, boo OP, you need a better starter!
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Postby Diarcesia » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:28 pm

Chan Island wrote:Looking forward to seeing what happens when the report is leaked. Will be interesting to see what's inside.

Who's willing to bet the Trump White House will fight tooth and nail to keep the report away from the public eye?

Also, boo OP, you need a better starter!

And watch for the possible about-face from Trump when it turns out he is innocent.

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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:35 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
South Odreria wrote:The report has been submitted to the justice department. The AG will read it, prepare a summary to be sent to congress, and decide whether to release the entire report or not.

1.) this will be on the Trump mega thread
2.) Frankly your OP sucks
3.) whats to debate?
4.) political blogs need not be on NS general

1. No, it won't.
2. Yes, but people who aren't familiar with the Mueller investigations has been living under a rock.
3. Plenty, trust me.
4. It's not that bloggy.

That said, South Odreria, I ask you to post links to some articles and pages about this. That'll help.
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The Mueller Probe is Complete - Longer OP Edition

Postby Diarcesia » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:39 pm

South Odreria wrote:The report has been submitted to the justice department. The AG will read it, prepare a summary to be sent to congress, and decide whether to release the entire report or not. Maybe things will happen.


News Article

It finally happened, after almost two years. With the Senate firmly in Trump's hands, I think we'll see more of the status quo even if the report turned out to be damning for the President. In fact, the most drastic course of action that I expect would be an about-face for Trump to suddenly praise Mueller if it's concluded that he's innocent from all these allegations. The White House has the means to dull any negative impact to them.

Thoughts?
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Postby Aclion » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:01 pm

Inb4 nothing happens.
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Postby Forsher » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:18 pm

Aclion wrote:Inb4 nothing happens.


If you saw smoke and went over to a house expecting to find a fire but didn't, should have not bothered seeing what the smoke was? Of course not.

Alternatively but, again equivalently, say you expect that there's a relationship between cell phone towers and bird deaths/brain cancers/whatever so you go, as a scientist, to investigate this. You find that it's very reasonable to believe that there is, in fact, no such relationship... should you not report your findings? Of course not.

Being wrong isn't evidence of having made a mistake to start... it's evidence that nothing happened. Indeed, in some contexts anyway the absence of evidence does make believing in absence more rational, i.e. the absence of smoke is a good reason to not go looking at the house. In the case of the collusion hypothesis, there really was evidence for which a reasonable interpretation was collusion (which was taken to imply one of numerous different crimes).

That is to say it is impossible for "nothing to happen" from this report (ignoring everything that has already happened). Either more prosecutions will result or they won't, but if it's the latter what that means is the original hypothesis (as it were) has been shown to be unreasonable (or, given the absence of the rule of law in the USA, possibly not). That is a something.
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:20 pm

Aclion wrote:Inb4 nothing happens.


"Inb4" posts are considered spam.
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Postby Far Easter Republic » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:23 pm

People are talking about this on the News even though nobody knows a thing yet.
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Postby US-SSR » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:25 pm

I'll bet I know at least two words in the Mueller report:

UNINDICTED CO-CONSPIRATOR

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Postby Valrifell » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:25 pm

Far Easter Republic wrote:People are talking about this on the News even though nobody knows a thing yet.


Anticipation gets more views than catharsis, after all.
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Postby Far Easter Republic » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:26 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
2. Yes, but people who aren't familiar with the Mueller investigations has been living under a rock.

A very large rock.
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Postby San Montalbano » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:28 pm

Forsher wrote:
Aclion wrote:Inb4 nothing happens.


If you saw smoke and went over to a house expecting to find a fire but didn't, should have not bothered seeing what the smoke was? Of course not.

Alternatively but, again equivalently, say you expect that there's a relationship between cell phone towers and bird deaths/brain cancers/whatever so you go, as a scientist, to investigate this. You find that it's very reasonable to believe that there is, in fact, no such relationship... should you not report your findings? Of course not.

Being wrong isn't evidence of having made a mistake to start... it's evidence that nothing happened. Indeed, in some contexts anyway the absence of evidence does make believing in absence more rational, i.e. the absence of smoke is a good reason to not go looking at the house. In the case of the collusion hypothesis, there really was evidence for which a reasonable interpretation was collusion (which was taken to imply one of numerous different crimes).

That is to say it is impossible for "nothing to happen" from this report (ignoring everything that has already happened). Either more prosecutions will result or they won't, but if it's the latter what that means is the original hypothesis (as it were) has been shown to be unreasonable (or, given the absence of the rule of law in the USA, possibly not). That is a something.



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Postby Far Easter Republic » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:29 pm

US-SSR wrote:Bill Clinton was impeached for lying about getting his knob polished in the White House pantry. Impeach the MF.

Well, somebody would notice the taste in the next meal, would they?
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:29 pm

US-SSR wrote:I'll bet I know at least two words in the Mueller report:

UNINDICTED CO-CONSPIRATOR

Bill Clinton was impeached for lying about getting his knob polished in the White House pantry. Impeach the MF.

BIGGER THAN WATERGATE!

Dude Mueller isn’t recommending any indictments. It’s over. Trump is not going anywhere
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Postby Far Easter Republic » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:31 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
US-SSR wrote:I'll bet I know at least two words in the Mueller report:

UNINDICTED CO-CONSPIRATOR

Bill Clinton was impeached for lying about getting his knob polished in the White House pantry. Impeach the MF.

BIGGER THAN WATERGATE!

Dude Mueller isn’t recommending any indictments. It’s over. Trump is not going anywhere

And all Russia would want is the US in a political s***storm. Миссия выполнена.
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Postby US-SSR » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:31 pm

Far Easter Republic wrote:
US-SSR wrote:Bill Clinton was impeached for lying about getting his knob polished in the White House pantry. Impeach the MF.

Well, somebody would notice the taste in the next meal, would they?


Or the next cigar...
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Postby Forsher » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:35 pm

San Montalbano wrote:^ Desperate and thirsty for Trump to be secret Russian hitler


Go on, make the case.

Oh, wait, you cannot.

Which appears to be the case for, in terms of the collusion argument, with Mueller and Trump. Which, and if you'd understood what you just read at all you'd know this already,* is a good thing.

If I wanted you to hate Trump I wouldn't try and use something as pathetic and largely trivial as his legal problems to do it.*

*I do entertain the possibility that the report was never going to try and indict, charge or otherwise name Trump because the US doesn't have a rule of law, but this is a separate issue. This is obviously another good reason to not try and use the law to make anti-Trump argument... so as I said... if you'd understood what you'd read at all.
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Postby Christian Confederation » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:36 pm

Diarcesia wrote:
Chan Island wrote:Looking forward to seeing what happens when the report is leaked. Will be interesting to see what's inside.

Who's willing to bet the Trump White House will fight tooth and nail to keep the report away from the public eye?

Also, boo OP, you need a better starter!

And watch for the possible about-face from Trump when it turns out he is innocent.

Shock of the century.
Spend 3-4 years investigating find nothing but tax fraud, and dirty lawyers but nothing involving the Trump election.

Or

Spend 3-4 years investigating get several people in prison for tax related Crime/ fruad and Trump did something wrong.

Now we wait for the report to be released.
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