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Would you do it?

Yes (I'd do it by myself)
3
4%
Yes (1 additional ally)
5
6%
Yes (2 additional allies)
6
7%
Yes (3 additional allies)
3
4%
Yes (4 additional allies)
1
1%
Yes (5 additional allies)
19
23%
Hell No
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:11 am

Please consider the following hypothetical scenario:

A supernatural entity will pay you 2 million dollars if you complete a mission for them. For this mission, you can choose up to 5 "allies" (irl friends and family members) to go with you; but the more people you choose, the more you will have to split the prize money.

For this mission you will be using AK-47s, several standard issue semi-automatic handguns, and combat knives. You will have 2 weeks to train on a firing range provided to you (this may or may not be enough).

The mission is as follows:

You and your allies will be teleported to a place with very high brick walls on 3 sides for your own protection. You have several crates of ammunition behind you (which will replenish automatically with magazines as soon as you use them up). You are not allowed to leave the area.

You have your AK-47s, handguns, and combat knives (no additional equipment or protection allowed). You have theoretically infinite ammunition behind you (although you DO need to reload and grab the right type of ammunition while under stress).

3,000 bloodlusted attack dogs will run at you (trained to murder you and your allies) from far away. They will show up continuously (with slight pauses) in waves of completely random size to attack you. These are psychoactively enhanced attack dogs that were part of a military experiment gone wrong. They are trained to bite and tear at you until you are dead and they will attack you with 100% determination and no fear whatsoever. Any time a dog is shot down, its body instantly vanishes into thin air (so that a wall of dead bodies cannot be formed).

Your mission is to survive (you are allowed to lose allies) and kill all 3,000 dogs in self-defence.

You are in real danger and may die or suffer physical and/or psychological harm from this mission, the survivors (if any) will split the prize money.

Please assume that the firearms you are equipped won't overheat or jam (assume perfect operability).

The discussion is as follows:

1. Would you accept this mission?
2. How many allies (up to 5) do you recruit if you accept knowing the money will have to be split?

Please justify your decision.

As for me? HELL NO. I'm TERRIFIED of attack dogs. That's as simple as it gets for me.
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Postby Third Asopia » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:14 am

The sight of 3000 wild dog running to me saying,"THOU SHALT BE KILLED." is not an option.
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Postby Jebslund » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:16 am

That's enough money to bank and live off the interest ant my current job comfortably. I'd do it, but alone. I'm not risking anyone I care about's life for money, but I'm more than happy to risk mine.
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Postby Some People on Planet Arcadia » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:17 am

Yea, no, that's kinda extreme. Besides, we're using an AK-47. That's not exactly the best weapon to mow down crowds with. And then (which you stated) there'd be the damages done to me and my allies.

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Postby Andsed » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:24 am

Ah hell no! I aint risking my life for only two million dollars.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:24 am

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:25 am

Some People on Planet Arcadia wrote:Yea, no, that's kinda extreme. Besides, we're using an AK-47. That's not exactly the best weapon to mow down crowds with. And then (which you stated) there'd be the damages done to me and my allies.


Are AKs bad for mow downs?
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:25 am

Ifreann wrote:Who gave the ATF a genie?


what's the ATF?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:26 am

It's like hog hunting except you get even more money, sign me up.
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Postby The Black Party » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:28 am

How long is the attack lasting for, and how much time do I get in-between waves? Like, am I going to get a chance to sleep there? I need my beauty sleep if I'm going to be expected to kill animals.
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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:29 am

Is it bad I read the title as "Operation Big Dong"?

Anyways, this just sounds like a Doom Scenario so fuck yeah I'd do it with a friend.
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Postby The Chuck » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:29 am

ATF = Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

I'd grab 5 combat veterans and we'd go walk out of there with a third of a million each. Considering that AK-47 rifles are rugged rifles chambered in 7.62x39 Russian, with 6 people who know how to operate firearms and 5 of them who are used to being in a combat zone, I'd say the cards are most definitely stacked in our favor.
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Postby The Black Party » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:29 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Some People on Planet Arcadia wrote:Yea, no, that's kinda extreme. Besides, we're using an AK-47. That's not exactly the best weapon to mow down crowds with. And then (which you stated) there'd be the damages done to me and my allies.


Are AKs bad for mow downs?

Compared to like, an MG42 or modern variant, kinda.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:30 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Who gave the ATF a genie?


what's the ATF?

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives.

They shoot people's dogs a lot.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:31 am

Easy get on the crate, and mow them down. Dogs are vertically challenged after all. :p
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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:32 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Some People on Planet Arcadia wrote:Yea, no, that's kinda extreme. Besides, we're using an AK-47. That's not exactly the best weapon to mow down crowds with. And then (which you stated) there'd be the damages done to me and my allies.


Are AKs bad for mow downs?

Yes, they're assault rifles. They are not even a light machine gun. Assault Rifles are designed to be a rifle, not a machine gun.

I'd still do it anyways
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:36 am

The Black Party wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Are AKs bad for mow downs?

Compared to like, an MG42 or modern variant, kinda.


What about M249 SAWs?

Those LMGs used by the Americans in the modern shooter games?
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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:38 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Black Party wrote:Compared to like, an MG42 or modern variant, kinda.


What about M249 SAWs?

Those LMGs used by the Americans in the modern shooter games?

:lol2: If you base your knowledge of guns off video games, you should not be talking about guns.

Video Game Guns are about as realistic of a representation of guns as pretending to shoot people in your mind.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:49 am

Very possibly die just for money? No thanks.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:52 am

Free Arabian Nation wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
What about M249 SAWs?

Those LMGs used by the Americans in the modern shooter games?

:lol2: If you base your knowledge of guns off video games, you should not be talking about guns.

Video Game Guns are about as realistic of a representation of guns as pretending to shoot people in your mind.


I know very little about guns.

I have never owned one nor seen a real one up close.

Still, I have a certain fascination with them because I've always seen them as the closest real life equivalent to a fantasy world point-and-click death stick. The holder of such weapons must feel an immense amount of power.
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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:53 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Free Arabian Nation wrote::lol2: If you base your knowledge of guns off video games, you should not be talking about guns.

Video Game Guns are about as realistic of a representation of guns as pretending to shoot people in your mind.


I know very little about guns.

I have never owned one nor seen a real one up close.

Still, I have a certain fascination with them because I've always seen them as the closest real life equivalent to a fantasy world point-and-click death stick. The holder of such weapons must feel an immense amount of power.

Uh...

Guys, I think we need to call the police.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:56 am

Free Arabian Nation wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
What about M249 SAWs?

Those LMGs used by the Americans in the modern shooter games?

:lol2: If you base your knowledge of guns off video games, you should not be talking about guns.

Video Game Guns are about as realistic of a representation of guns as pretending to shoot people in your mind.

You would need a video game gun to shoot three thousand dogs that are trying to kill you. Preferably a video game gun that doesn't need to be reloaded.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:00 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:very high

How high?
the area.

How large?
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Postby Jebslund » Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:07 am

Ifreann wrote:
Free Arabian Nation wrote::lol2: If you base your knowledge of guns off video games, you should not be talking about guns.

Video Game Guns are about as realistic of a representation of guns as pretending to shoot people in your mind.

You would need a video game gun to shoot three thousand dogs that are trying to kill you. Preferably a video game gun that doesn't need to be reloaded.

I mean, they are coming in *waves*. As long as no wave is larger than the AK's clip size, and/or the pistols have enough capacity to cover the rest, and you have time to reload between waves (and breaks for sleep as needed), it should be extremely difficult, but *doable*.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:08 am

Alvecia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:very high

How high?
the area.

How large?


I don't know. Let's say as high as the Berlin Wall.

As for the shooting distance in front of you (with the two sides by walls) let's say... 2/3 of the length and width of an average high school gymnasium (where they play basketball)

is that fair?
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