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[SCRAPPED/TABELED FOR FUTURE USE]MAXimum Problems

Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:45 pm

Description: The Moeing 636 MAX is the newest type of plane to come out, with advanced automation technology designed to assist pilots. However, two fatal crashes (one in Macronesia, one in Bigtopia) in a span of a couple of months involving this aircraft have undermined its safety reputation. Anxious travelers and safety experts have demanded your help.

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[option]Leader air crash investigator @@RANDOMNAME@@ comes into your office with thousands of pages of reports. "After reviewing these two separate crashes, the decision is clear: we need to immediately ground every single 636 MAX plane in our country. It is very unusual to have two planes crash in a matter of months, and both of them happened during take off and involved the new anti-stall technology, with pilots trying to fight the very system that was supposed to help them! It isn't unusual to ground aircraft that have chronic problems, such as the McDonald Douglas DD-10 and their cargo doors. Yes, we know we haven't uncovered the full picture yet, but for passenger safety and trust, we need to take drastic action now!"
[effect]it takes years for new planes to actually take off due to stringent safety precautions

[option]"I agree that there are potential safety hazards associated with this plane, but we must not be too hasty," says @@RANDOMNAME@@, director of the @@NAME@@ Aviation Bureau (@@DEMONYMADJECTIVEINITIALS@@AB). "My colleague has provided preliminary evidence for some areas of concern, but we currently don't have the full picture to make an informed judgement. Protocol must be followed at all times, and in the aviation industry, we cannot afford to take shortcuts or skimp on procedure.
[effect]regulatory agencies procrastinate more than college students rushing to get their essays done

[option]"Our planes are totally safe!" asserts Moeing spokesperson @@RANDOMNAME@@, while tinkering with a 636 MAX toy. "While designing new planes, we take into account everything to make sure that the new plane is the next greatest thing. Safety is no exception. Sure there may have been two crashes, but flying is extremely safe and we have contributed to industry safety standards over the years. Besides, all of this regulatory tape will do more harm and undermine our ability to perform our job! You can trust our bottom li.. *ahem* our word, right?"
[effect]planes with missing stabilizers and loose cargo doors are certified as flyable

[option]"This is another reason why we need to ban airplanes," says travel blogger @@RANDOMNAME@@ who has a severe fear of flying. "Not only are they very polluting and noisy, you don't know whether you will die in a pressured hunk of metal that's flying in the stratosphere! I certainly don't trust these death machines. We need more funding for alternate forms of transportation, such as new railways. Sure people will have to travel slower to get places and it can be quite an inconvenience, but isn't it worth it to smell cleaner air and not be afraid of dying in a fireball?"
[effect]frequent-flyer miles are the most worthless currency in @@NAME@@

Is there an NS country that's like Ethiopia in some way? And is this plane too much of a parallel to the RL one?
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Postby Australian rePublic » Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:47 am

Shouldn't you wait to see what happens IRL?
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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:10 am

Australian rePublic wrote:Shouldn't you wait to see what happens IRL?

They do have some leads regarding the automation system, but nothing is set in stone yet. However, since many countries have taken the initiative to ground their 737 MAX aircraft, the premise of my issue is the safety of new aircraft and whether to ground them or not.
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Postby -Astoria » Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:12 am

Hmm... methinks it's a little too soon

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:37 am

Okay to be topical, though of course sensitivity should be maintained.

The bigger problem to me is that we've already covered aviation safety in other issues (280, 652, 692, 970, with 652 being a very close match). This doesn't add much new to the mix, I think.

It could be argued that there's a separate issue about when to ground planes, but I think almost everybody would agree that the answer is "when the balance of risks is such that it outweighs the economic harm". There's clearly an element of judgement there, but making that judgement is going to based more on an individual's read on the evidence, the mood of the nation and appetite for risk. It's not going to be an ideological position. I don't think it works as an issue, as it'd always be a case of "I need to know more".
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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:37 am

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:Okay to be topical, though of course sensitivity should be maintained.

The bigger problem to me is that we've already covered aviation safety in other issues (280, 652, 692, 970, with 652 being a very close match). This doesn't add much new to the mix, I think.

It could be argued that there's a separate issue about when to ground planes, but I think almost everybody would agree that the answer is "when the balance of risks is such that it outweighs the economic harm". There's clearly an element of judgement there, but making that judgement is going to based more on an individual's read on the evidence, the mood of the nation and appetite for risk. It's not going to be an ideological position. I don't think it works as an issue, as it'd always be a case of "I need to know more".

So I guess there is no way this issue would ever, ever be feasible? Even if we know more about what happened to the MAX?
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Postby Australian rePublic » Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:15 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Candlewhisper Archive wrote:Okay to be topical, though of course sensitivity should be maintained.

The bigger problem to me is that we've already covered aviation safety in other issues (280, 652, 692, 970, with 652 being a very close match). This doesn't add much new to the mix, I think.

It could be argued that there's a separate issue about when to ground planes, but I think almost everybody would agree that the answer is "when the balance of risks is such that it outweighs the economic harm". There's clearly an element of judgement there, but making that judgement is going to based more on an individual's read on the evidence, the mood of the nation and appetite for risk. It's not going to be an ideological position. I don't think it works as an issue, as it'd always be a case of "I need to know more".

So I guess there is no way this issue would ever, ever be feasible? Even if we know more about what happened to the MAX?

Wait till we do, then retry it
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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:37 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:So I guess there is no way this issue would ever, ever be feasible? Even if we know more about what happened to the MAX?

Wait till we do, then retry it

I'll probably table this draft and see what will happen in the future.
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