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To what ethical philosophy do you subscribe?

Ethical Egoism
12
11%
Act Utilitarianism
7
6%
Rule Utilitarianism
7
6%
Kantian Ethics
6
5%
Virtue Ethics
19
17%
Nihilism/YOLO
18
16%
Radical Subjectivism
2
2%
Cultural Relativism
3
3%
Divine Command Theory
18
16%
Natural Law Theory
20
18%
 
Total votes : 112

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Hanafuridake
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Postby Hanafuridake » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:18 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Ulrich Schmid wrote:You say tinder era buuut...

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... on/573949/

AlHamdulillah. Now we just need to get my generation to reclaim abstinence until marriage.


How can you reclaim something which was nonexistent?
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Postby Kowani » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:28 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:AlHamdulillah. Now we just need to get my generation to reclaim abstinence until marriage.


How can you reclaim something which was nonexistent?

We all become New England Puritans, duh.
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Hanafuridake
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Postby Hanafuridake » Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:46 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Ulrich Schmid wrote:You say tinder era buuut...

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... on/573949/

>> millennials are destroying sex too now

Add it to paper towels, cable TV, and diamonds.


Add your flag too.
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Jolthig
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Postby Jolthig » Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:11 am

Kowani wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
How can you reclaim something which was nonexistent?

We all become New England Puritans, duh.

Well, that's up to the individual. :p
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Evil Dictators Happyland
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:08 am

Totally Not OEP wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:Technically, you didn't directly claim it, but you've been spending this entire time arguing that the Nazis were better than the Soviets based on one battle, that being Seelow Heights, and you've basically just repeated the same point whenever someone points out that it's really not that surprising when the fortifications are considered or that the Nazis lost the war anyway.


As I said, I'd love for you to quote where I claimed this.

Fact: You're claiming that the Nazis were better than the Soviets.
Fact: You're not using any examples other than Seelow Heights.
Conclusion: You're claiming that the Nazis were better than the Soviets and using no examples other than Seelow Heights.

And in other news, two plus two has recently been proven to equal four.

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Fahran
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Postby Fahran » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:18 am

Valrifell wrote:Oh boy, is it time for posters to indirectly fantasize about my brutal murder?

I don't think this subject is about you, and, in any case, we're not anywhere near a civil war. I expect quite a bit of brawling in the streets given that such "direct action" has come into vogue with the upper middle-class student left and that universities are unwilling or unable to prevent such outbursts of violence, but it'll probably die down after a few atrocities like it did in the 1970's. And, if it gets bad enough, we'll get sitting governors and presidents lecturing professors about not reprimanding students who should know better and who got spanked for hitting their siblings and breaking windows but didn't get the message.

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Postby Hanafuridake » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:26 am

Valrifell wrote:Oh boy, is it time for posters to indirectly fantasize about my brutal murder?


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Nea Byzantia
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:29 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:Uncle Sam be like:"We need to conquer the World...SO I CAN GET MY MEDS, AND MY BIGMACS AND MY TWINKIES AND MY..."

*dies of heart failure.

Sign of success #143: foreigners and apologists for weak foreign countries get mad at your very existence. =^)

Sign of Success #144: Your surround your enemies; but are able to feign being "defensive" :p

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Are Russia, China, and Iran really the aggressors in the World?
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Postby North German Realm » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:32 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Sign of success #143: foreigners and apologists for weak foreign countries get mad at your very existence. =^)

Sign of Success #144: Your surround your enemies; but are able to feign being "defensive"

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Are Russia, China, and Iran really the aggressors in the World?

Russia and Iran? Yes. Though to assume that Iran is anything but an extension of Russia is a bit naive. China? Eh. The places they're targeting are largely irrelevant.
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Postby Fahran » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:35 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
Painisia wrote:Well, what other reasons caused incels then Mister?

The downfall of arranged marriages caused the regrettable but mostly innocent phenomenon, the rise of the internet caused the repulsive circlejerk.

The number of men who haven't had sexual relations in the last year has climbed pretty steeply in the past three decades. This effect has been more muted for women, though somewhere around one in five women are in the same situation. Altogether, we're less sexually promiscuous than we were in the seventies, eighties, and nineties, but close to a third of young men seem to be unable to find permanent sexual partners. This is an issue and probably one the left should take seriously if we don't want people rambling about state-mandated 3D Waifus. Because I'm not ready for that future and I will use my heels to express my discontent.
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Nea Byzantia
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:38 am

North German Realm wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:Sign of Success #144: Your surround your enemies; but are able to feign being "defensive"

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Are Russia, China, and Iran really the aggressors in the World?

Russia and Iran? Yes. Though to assume that Iran is anything but an extension of Russia is a bit naive. China? Eh. The places they're targeting are largely irrelevant.

Iran is heavily dependent on Russia; but to assume that its just an extension of Russia is ridiculous. Iran and Russia have similar geopolitical goals, and the same rivals and adversaries - same goes for China. What binds those nations together is hatred of the Anglo-American Power Bloc that has dominated the World for the last couple of hundred years. Its the formation of a rival Power Bloc; a Eurasian Power Bloc; a Land Power to oppose the Atlantic-based Sea Power.

This sort of historical theme has come up in history before:

Rome vs Carthage

Sparta vs Athens

Byzantium vs Venice

for example.

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Fahran
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Postby Fahran » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:42 am

The South Falls wrote:
Luminesa wrote:> Tinder era
I want off this ride.

Whee bitch, it's E-girl time!

Do you know what time it is? It's time for a crusade. And I'm not even Catholic.

Luminesa wrote:
Painisia wrote:
We are currently living in the Tinder era. How nice!

Let the Social Darwinist selection of partners begin!

> Tinder era
I want off this ride.

I want to blow up the cart.

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Hanafuridake
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Postby Hanafuridake » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:43 am

Fahran wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Whee bitch, it's E-girl time!

Do you know what time it is? It's time for a crusade. And I'm not even Catholic.


Yet. You already read Gentile, you're on your way.
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Postby Fahran » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:44 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:This sort of historical theme has come up in history before:

Rome vs Carthage

Sparta vs Athens

Byzantium vs Venice

for example.

So what you're saying is that we should Fourth Crusade Hong Kong and Petrograd?

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Postby Fahran » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:46 am

Hanafuridake wrote:Yet. You already read Gentile, you're on your way.

Let's mix Torah, Halakha, and Kabbalah with esoteric ultra-nationalism, corporatism as an economic model, and an absolute state. I sound like I'm about to join the Lehi and make them sound marginally more intelligent than the edge-lords they actually were.

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Nea Byzantia
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:49 am

Fahran wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:This sort of historical theme has come up in history before:

Rome vs Carthage

Sparta vs Athens

Byzantium vs Venice

for example.

So what you're saying is that we should Fourth Crusade Hong Kong and Petrograd?

Only if you're on the Carthaginian/Athenian/Venetian/Anglo-American side.

Which I'm not...so I wouldn't advocate such a thing.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:49 am

Fahran wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:Yet. You already read Gentile, you're on your way.

Let's mix Torah, Halakha, and Kabbalah with esoteric ultra-nationalism, corporatism as an economic model, and an absolute state. I sound like I'm about to join the Lehi and make them sound marginally more intelligent than the edge-lords they actually were.


Yosef Dayan is that you.
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Postby Fahran » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:01 am

Hanafuridake wrote:Yosef Dayan is that you.

Dayan is an odd one. I'd call him more of a ultra-nationalist, monarchist, and theocrat than a fascist. He definitely dabbles in Kabbalah though. The Pulsa deNura was and is an abomination. The cognitive dissonance some of these people have drives me crazy.

Nea Byzantia wrote:Only if you're on the Carthaginian/Athenian/Venetian/Anglo-American side.

Which I'm not...so I wouldn't advocate such a thing.

It's alright. I'll do it on behalf of the world. ;)

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Postby Novus America » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:34 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Sign of success #143: foreigners and apologists for weak foreign countries get mad at your very existence. =^)

Sign of Success #144: Your surround your enemies; but are able to feign being "defensive" :p

Image

Are Russia, China, and Iran really the aggressors in the World?


First of all that map is not even accurate.
We no longer have bases in the Philippines for example.

And since when is Singapore near Russia?
However those bases are almost all in places who WANT them there!

I mean I understand Russia believes letting countries near Russia have sovereignty and make alliances with countries other than Russia is “aggression” but that is not how it works.
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Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Novus America » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:38 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
North German Realm wrote:Russia and Iran? Yes. Though to assume that Iran is anything but an extension of Russia is a bit naive. China? Eh. The places they're targeting are largely irrelevant.

Iran is heavily dependent on Russia; but to assume that its just an extension of Russia is ridiculous. Iran and Russia have similar geopolitical goals, and the same rivals and adversaries - same goes for China. What binds those nations together is hatred of the Anglo-American Power Bloc that has dominated the World for the last couple of hundred years. Its the formation of a rival Power Bloc; a Eurasian Power Bloc; a Land Power to oppose the Atlantic-based Sea Power.

This sort of historical theme has come up in history before:

Rome vs Carthage

Sparta vs Athens

Byzantium vs Venice

for example.


Aleksandr Dugin is that you?
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Zombie Ike/Teddy Roosevelt 2020.

Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Nea Byzantia
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:47 am

Novus America wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:Iran is heavily dependent on Russia; but to assume that its just an extension of Russia is ridiculous. Iran and Russia have similar geopolitical goals, and the same rivals and adversaries - same goes for China. What binds those nations together is hatred of the Anglo-American Power Bloc that has dominated the World for the last couple of hundred years. Its the formation of a rival Power Bloc; a Eurasian Power Bloc; a Land Power to oppose the Atlantic-based Sea Power.

This sort of historical theme has come up in history before:

Rome vs Carthage

Sparta vs Athens

Byzantium vs Venice

for example.


Aleksandr Dugin is that you?

Yes..John McCain, I presume?

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Hanafuridake
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Postby Hanafuridake » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:48 am

Fahran wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:Yosef Dayan is that you.

Dayan is an odd one. I'd call him more of a ultra-nationalist, monarchist, and theocrat than a fascist. He definitely dabbles in Kabbalah though. The Pulsa deNura was and is an abomination. The cognitive dissonance some of these people have drives me crazy.


Isn't dabbling in the Kabbalah basically the Jewish version of being an edgy boi? :p

Pulsa deNura, Pulsa diNura or Pulsa Denoura (Aramaic: פולסי דנורא‎ "The Lashes of Fire") is a purportedly Kabbalistic ceremony in which the destroying angels are invoked to block heavenly forgiveness of the subject's sins, causing all the curses named in the Bible to befall him resulting in his death.


It's a good thing I'm not Jewish because I'd probably do this.
Novus America wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:Iran is heavily dependent on Russia; but to assume that its just an extension of Russia is ridiculous. Iran and Russia have similar geopolitical goals, and the same rivals and adversaries - same goes for China. What binds those nations together is hatred of the Anglo-American Power Bloc that has dominated the World for the last couple of hundred years. Its the formation of a rival Power Bloc; a Eurasian Power Bloc; a Land Power to oppose the Atlantic-based Sea Power.

This sort of historical theme has come up in history before:

Rome vs Carthage

Sparta vs Athens

Byzantium vs Venice

for example.


Aleksandr Dugin is that you?


Not Hyperborean and anti-internet enough.
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Novus America
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Postby Novus America » Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:14 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Aleksandr Dugin is that you?

Yes..John McCain, I presume?


John McCain was based if a bit crazy.
Dugan just totally insane.

Anyways the Eastern Roman Empire was for most of its history a naval power.
Rome and Carthage were not that much different.
Sparta was also a major naval power. And beat Athens at sea.

So those are not even good examples.
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Zombie Ike/Teddy Roosevelt 2020.

Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:22 am

Novus America wrote:Sparta was also a major naval power. And beat Athens at sea.

Uh... did I miss a few memos? <.<
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Novus America
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Postby Novus America » Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:27 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Novus America wrote:Sparta was also a major naval power. And beat Athens at sea.

Uh... did I miss a few memos? <.<


You might have.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Aegospotami
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Zombie Ike/Teddy Roosevelt 2020.

Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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