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All Charges Against Jussie Smollett Dropped

Postby The River Brazos » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:21 pm

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/ ... spartanntp

"Empire" actor Jussie Smollett has been indicted by a grand jury in Chicago on 16 felony counts after allegedly lying to police about being the victim of a racist and homophobic hate crime.
Smollett was charged last month with felony disorderly conduct for the allegedly false report he made with Chicago police on Jan. 29, according to the Cook County State's Attorney's Office. In it he claimed he was assaulted by two masked men who hurled racist and homophobic slurs.
The actor, 36, who is black and gay, also said his attackers poured what he believed was bleach over him and put a noose around his neck.
Smollett and his attorneys have denied the allegations against him.


well it looks like someone's plan to better there career has back fired just about as bad or worse then K Griffiths scandalous photo/tweet. I never thought he would get so many felony charges just for one false police report I just hope he never works in any business that gets media attention like TV or film cause he's not deserving of any of it any more. I'd also like to know how those who are for now still standing by him react to his 16 felony count indictment and if there still willing to ride that train to no where.
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Postby Scomagia » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:30 pm

I expect he'll be able to plea down to some misdemeanor bullshit, pay restitution, and maybe serve jail time, though I really doubt it.
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Postby The River Brazos » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:44 pm

Scomagia wrote:I expect he'll be able to plea down to some misdemeanor bullshit, pay restitution, and maybe serve jail time, though I really doubt it.

I don't know but in Ill he could get 1-3 years for falsifying a police report plus the whole deal with the letter he received at the Empire set could net him federal charges
And when that letter did not get a “bigger reaction,” Smollett orchestrated the attack a week later with the two men–Ola and Abel Osundairo, sources said. Also Tuesday, sources said the two brothers were seen on a ride share video camera before being dropped off near the location of the attack.
Smollett received a letter containing a white powder Jan. 22. The letter was mailed to Chicago’s Cinespace Studios, where the show “Empire” is filmed. The letter prompted a HAZMAT response. CPD says the “white substance” was later determined to be aspirin.
This raised the question of whether Smollett could face federal charges. The Department of Justice says that the elements of mail fraud are as follows:

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:56 pm

His career prospects are looking quite Smoll.
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Postby Scomagia » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:58 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:His career prospects are looking quite Smoll.

Seems like Jusstice to me. :p
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Postby Deimosan » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:58 pm

Good, he deserves it for lying and all these outlets taking and running with the narrative that it was true without waiting for more information..

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Postby Vassenor » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:02 pm

Deimosan wrote:Good, he deserves it for lying and all these outlets taking and running with the narrative that it was true without waiting for more information..


So when was he proven guilty?
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Postby Novus America » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:03 pm

State charges are not the biggest thing. The potential federal charges however could possibly result in decades in jail and hundreds of thousands in fines.
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Postby Scomagia » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:04 pm

The River Brazos wrote:
Scomagia wrote:I expect he'll be able to plea down to some misdemeanor bullshit, pay restitution, and maybe serve jail time, though I really doubt it.

I don't know but in Ill he could get 1-3 years for falsifying a police report plus the whole deal with the letter he received at the Empire set could net him federal charges
And when that letter did not get a “bigger reaction,” Smollett orchestrated the attack a week later with the two men–Ola and Abel Osundairo, sources said. Also Tuesday, sources said the two brothers were seen on a ride share video camera before being dropped off near the location of the attack.
Smollett received a letter containing a white powder Jan. 22. The letter was mailed to Chicago’s Cinespace Studios, where the show “Empire” is filmed. The letter prompted a HAZMAT response. CPD says the “white substance” was later determined to be aspirin.
This raised the question of whether Smollett could face federal charges. The Department of Justice says that the elements of mail fraud are as follows:

It's possible that he goes down hard but I'm not holding my breath. I seriously doubt he'll be spending any time behind bars when this is all over.
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Postby Vetalia » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:07 pm

Scomagia wrote:It's possible that he goes down hard but I'm not holding my breath. I seriously doubt he'll be spending any time behind bars when this is all over.


I don't know, the Chicago PD was really pissed about wasting a massive amount of time and money on this hoax when they're already dealing with other serious issues. They might make an example out of him just because of that.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:10 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Deimosan wrote:Good, he deserves it for lying and all these outlets taking and running with the narrative that it was true without waiting for more information..


So when was he proven guilty?


Vass, look, I know you went to bat hard for him cuz orange man bad and all that but it's time to admit it was all just fake.
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Postby Shofercia » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:13 pm

Good. Send him to jail for that stunt, to send a message to other potential scammers.


Dumb Ideologies wrote:His career prospects are looking quite Smoll.


Ba dum tish!


Scomagia wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:His career prospects are looking quite Smoll.

Seems like Jusstice to me. :p


So it's Jussie gonna be that kind of thread, huh?


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Scomagia wrote:It's possible that he goes down hard but I'm not holding my breath. I seriously doubt he'll be spending any time behind bars when this is all over.


I don't know, the Chicago PD was really pissed about wasting a massive amount of time and money on this hoax when they're already dealing with other serious issues. They might make an example out of him just because of that.


It's generally a bad idea to scam the cops. Doubly so in Chicago. Hank Voight - investigate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G71aAj8xBoQ
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:14 pm

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Scomagia wrote:It's possible that he goes down hard but I'm not holding my breath. I seriously doubt he'll be spending any time behind bars when this is all over.


I don't know, the Chicago PD was really pissed about wasting a massive amount of time and money on this hoax when they're already dealing with other serious issues. They might make an example out of him just because of that.

And since he's semi-famous it'd be a pretty good example to make. 'Nobody make bullshit accusations, even celebrities can't get away with it.'
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The Huskar Social Union wrote:So long buddy.

Seems like a classic case of 'chat shit, get banged.'
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:28 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:So long buddy.


Given that we live in a world where massive tax fraud and conspiracy against the United States nets you a four year sentence, mail fraud probably won't destroy him.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:29 pm

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The Huskar Social Union wrote:So long buddy.


Given that we live in a world where massive tax fraud and conspiracy against the United States nets you a four year sentence, mail fraud probably won't destroy him.

His career though...
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Postby Vetalia » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:32 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:And since he's semi-famous it'd be a pretty good example to make. 'Nobody make bullshit accusations, even celebrities can't get away with it.'


I hope they sentence him to the maximum for the charges he's found guilty of, this shit where celebrities and the wealthy can escape punishment or plea down needs to stop ASAP. If these people didn't have their wealth or connections they'd be sent to the slammer for life just like some poor bastard who was found with a few ounces of weed for the third time.

I think he already tried the "untreated drug problem" gambit and that went over as well as a fart in church, so hopefully we see real justice in this case to set a precedent.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:34 pm

Vetalia wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:And since he's semi-famous it'd be a pretty good example to make. 'Nobody make bullshit accusations, even celebrities can't get away with it.'


I hope they sentence him to the maximum for the charges he's found guilty of, this shit where celebrities and the wealthy can escape punishment or plea down needs to stop ASAP. If these people didn't have their wealth or connections they'd be sent to the slammer for life just like some poor bastard who was found with a few ounces of weed for the third time.

I think he already tried the "untreated drug problem" gambit and that went over as well as a fart in church, so hopefully we see real justice in this case to set a precedent.

The 'fart in church' comment is so uniquely American lol, I only encountered it in Southern Alabama.

But yes, I agree with you, celebrities are just the people that should be made examples of due to the press coverage, yet they are invariably the people who escape with the lightest sentences.
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Postby Scomagia » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:36 pm

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The Huskar Social Union wrote:So long buddy.


Given that we live in a world where massive tax fraud and conspiracy against the United States nets you a four year sentence, mail fraud probably won't destroy him.

I mean, it all depends on how hard the charges are pursued. As I said, I expect he'll be allowed to plea down but he could get really pummelled, as he should be if convicted.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:36 pm

Vetalia wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:And since he's semi-famous it'd be a pretty good example to make. 'Nobody make bullshit accusations, even celebrities can't get away with it.'


I hope they sentence him to the maximum for the charges he's found guilty of, this shit where celebrities and the wealthy can escape punishment or plea down needs to stop ASAP. If these people didn't have their wealth or connections they'd be sent to the slammer for life just like some poor bastard who was found with a few ounces of weed for the third time.

I think he already tried the "untreated drug problem" gambit and that went over as well as a fart in church, so hopefully we see real justice in this case to set a precedent.


So how do you rationalise that against "Equal justice under law"?

Because right now you're arguing for unequal justice purely because you want to be vindictive.
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Postby Novus America » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:36 pm

Vassenor wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:So long buddy.


Given that we live in a world where massive tax fraud and conspiracy against the United States nets you a four year sentence, mail fraud probably won't destroy him.


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1341

Mail fraud can land you 20 years in prison plus $250,000 in fines.
Mail fraud is serious shit.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:37 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Vetalia wrote:
I hope they sentence him to the maximum for the charges he's found guilty of, this shit where celebrities and the wealthy can escape punishment or plea down needs to stop ASAP. If these people didn't have their wealth or connections they'd be sent to the slammer for life just like some poor bastard who was found with a few ounces of weed for the third time.

I think he already tried the "untreated drug problem" gambit and that went over as well as a fart in church, so hopefully we see real justice in this case to set a precedent.


So how do you rationalise that against "Equal justice under law"?

Because right now you're arguing for unequal justice purely because you want to be vindictive.

He's arguing against celebrities being given unequal treatment under the law.
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Postby Scomagia » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:38 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Vetalia wrote:
I hope they sentence him to the maximum for the charges he's found guilty of, this shit where celebrities and the wealthy can escape punishment or plea down needs to stop ASAP. If these people didn't have their wealth or connections they'd be sent to the slammer for life just like some poor bastard who was found with a few ounces of weed for the third time.

I think he already tried the "untreated drug problem" gambit and that went over as well as a fart in church, so hopefully we see real justice in this case to set a precedent.


So how do you rationalise that against "Equal justice under law"?

Because right now you're arguing for unequal justice purely because you want to be vindictive.

They're arguing for the maximum allowed penalties. That's still equal justice.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:39 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So how do you rationalise that against "Equal justice under law"?

Because right now you're arguing for unequal justice purely because you want to be vindictive.

They're arguing for the maximum allowed penalties. That's still equal justice.

Especially given that sentencing, aside from establishing the guidelines, isn't strictly 'the law,' it's judicial discression when combined with all the factors the judge is considering.
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