by The Archregimancy » Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:31 pm
by Souseiseki » Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:51 pm
by Farnhamia » Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:54 pm
Souseiseki wrote:https://twitter.com/gregjames/status/1098186084415082496
it is of the utmost importance that i get "17.4 million people voted for this turd, this democratically [chosen] turd" on the first page
e: also i would like to propose a democratic referendum on a new thread title
by Fartsniffage » Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:58 pm
Souseiseki wrote:https://twitter.com/gregjames/status/1098186084415082496
it is of the utmost importance that i get "17.4 million people voted for this turd, this democratically [chosen] turd" on the first page
e: also i would like to propose a democratic referendum on a new thread title
by Farnhamia » Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:59 pm
Fartsniffage wrote:Souseiseki wrote:https://twitter.com/gregjames/status/1098186084415082496
it is of the utmost importance that i get "17.4 million people voted for this turd, this democratically [chosen] turd" on the first page
e: also i would like to propose a democratic referendum on a new thread title
You need to get permission from May for a new tread title. She is in control of a red white and blue thread. She's strong and stable.
by Fartsniffage » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:01 pm
by Farnhamia » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:02 pm
by Fartsniffage » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:09 pm
by Farnhamia » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:12 pm
by Fartsniffage » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:14 pm
Farnhamia wrote:Fartsniffage wrote:
I think Arch will do a much better job. Even if he decides not to then I think others you make a better OP.
I appreciate what you think about me but I'm not into what you think.
Very well. I pinged Arch so some time in the next 24 hours a new OP should appear. It's like anyone needs one at this point.
by Neu Leonstein » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:16 pm
by Eastfield Lodge » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:39 pm
Farnhamia wrote:Souseiseki wrote:https://twitter.com/gregjames/status/1098186084415082496
it is of the utmost importance that i get "17.4 million people voted for this turd, this democratically [chosen] turd" on the first page
e: also i would like to propose a democratic referendum on a new thread title
Fine, there's a process for that. It'll take about two years ...
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:34 am
by An Alan Smithee Nation » Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:59 am
by The Blaatschapen » Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:13 am
by Ther Sul Citzpacia » Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:16 am
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:16 am
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:US also saying they won't be bound by WTO rules
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-t ... KKCN1QJ01L
Shouldn't the poll for the thread be based on the number of elected representatives in the various parliaments? Fuck UKIP, I doubt most of the people voting for them in the poll aren't from the UK anyway.
by Dresderstan » Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:18 am
The blAAtschApen wrote:Number nine, number nine, number nine?
I want to start a revolution. But well you know.Yes, I know, different revolution
And don't worry British, in about 4 weeks you get rid of me posting in your thread
Or not, this Brexit thing is quite unpredictable.
by Vassenor » Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:30 am
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:US also saying they won't be bound by WTO rules
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-t ... KKCN1QJ01L
Shouldn't the poll for the thread be based on the number of elected representatives in the various parliaments? Fuck UKIP, I doubt most of the people voting for them in the poll aren't from the UK anyway.
More specifically, the US will still abide by their own reading of WTO rules, but they will no longer accept appellate body rulings. This is dumb in a few more ways than one. For instance, the justification that 'the US never agreed to those rules' is inherently flawed, since the US is a party both to the WTO treaty and GATT. Everything about the appellate body is in there. Besides, before going to the appellate body, the WTO first renders a panel decision, the judges of which can be selected by the parties. This is as close to international arbitration as one can get, and very favourable to the parties. Moreover, it only applies GATT rules, so the US definitely agreed to those rules.
It might all be a moot point, however. Appellate body judges are elected by unanimity by the state parties, and the US has blocked all appointees without giving any reason as to why. They just want to kill the WTO system. And fuck, if you don't like the WTO, then withdraw from it. I mean, that would still be dumb, but at least the WTO can keep functioning for those countries who do want to be bound by the appellate body. Fucking over the WTO like this is not the work of a country asserting its sovereignty; it's the work of a country that is ideologically against international cooperation, violates the contracts it has made internationally (thus making the US one of the least reliable global partners at the moment), asserting a hegemonic position by trying to destroy something it doesn't even want to be a part of.
And it's even dumb with regards to Brexit. The US was the biggest hope for Brexiteers, and Trump could have used his position to funnel the country towards a no deal Brexit. With this, he just threw a bucket of ice water over the brexiteer side, reminding the UK that, with regards to trade, they cannot rely on the US. It's an immense foreign policy blunder, for the US, and I would not be surprised if this news combined with other US-related trade news is going to turn quite a few heads in Parliament.
by Platypus Bureaucracy » Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:53 am
Vassenor wrote:Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:More specifically, the US will still abide by their own reading of WTO rules, but they will no longer accept appellate body rulings. This is dumb in a few more ways than one. For instance, the justification that 'the US never agreed to those rules' is inherently flawed, since the US is a party both to the WTO treaty and GATT. Everything about the appellate body is in there. Besides, before going to the appellate body, the WTO first renders a panel decision, the judges of which can be selected by the parties. This is as close to international arbitration as one can get, and very favourable to the parties. Moreover, it only applies GATT rules, so the US definitely agreed to those rules.
It might all be a moot point, however. Appellate body judges are elected by unanimity by the state parties, and the US has blocked all appointees without giving any reason as to why. They just want to kill the WTO system. And fuck, if you don't like the WTO, then withdraw from it. I mean, that would still be dumb, but at least the WTO can keep functioning for those countries who do want to be bound by the appellate body. Fucking over the WTO like this is not the work of a country asserting its sovereignty; it's the work of a country that is ideologically against international cooperation, violates the contracts it has made internationally (thus making the US one of the least reliable global partners at the moment), asserting a hegemonic position by trying to destroy something it doesn't even want to be a part of.
And it's even dumb with regards to Brexit. The US was the biggest hope for Brexiteers, and Trump could have used his position to funnel the country towards a no deal Brexit. With this, he just threw a bucket of ice water over the brexiteer side, reminding the UK that, with regards to trade, they cannot rely on the US. It's an immense foreign policy blunder, for the US, and I would not be surprised if this news combined with other US-related trade news is going to turn quite a few heads in Parliament.
In fact wasn't it drilled into us that we needed Trump to win because then we'd get preferential treatment and the best possible deals from the U.S.?
by The Archregimancy » Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:19 am
by Astrellan » Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:43 am
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Britain's hopes of a trade deal with America just suffered a big blow
The zero sum game view on trade of the US administration will now come to bite the UK.
by Ostroeuropa » Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:04 am
by Risottia » Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:30 am
Farnhamia wrote:Souseiseki wrote:https://twitter.com/gregjames/status/1098186084415082496
it is of the utmost importance that i get "17.4 million people voted for this turd, this democratically [chosen] turd" on the first page
e: also i would like to propose a democratic referendum on a new thread title
Fine, there's a process for that. It'll take about two years ...
by Risottia » Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:32 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:Pretty simple way to start would be setting a close deadline for compliance, any corporations or elites found to be non-compliant after that stage get on the shitlist and are told their wealth is ephemeral and will be totally and completely confiscated so they are left with nothing but their debts when the people who take environmentalism seriously take over. Use that policy as a litmus test for environmentalism, and don't support those who don't have it.
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