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Postby East Gondwana » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:39 am

Odds currently have Netherlands tipped to win, how are we feeling about that?
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Postby Darkmania » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:49 am

East Gondwana wrote:Odds currently have Netherlands tipped to win, how are we feeling about that?


They havent won since 1975 (Thats 44 years ago), so they can win. But the odds can change during the contest. (Points at Cyprus shooting themselves as the favourite last year after Fuego was performed in the Semi)

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Postby East Gondwana » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:36 am

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East Gondwana wrote:Odds currently have Netherlands tipped to win, how are we feeling about that?


They havent won since 1975 (Thats 44 years ago), so they can win. But the odds can change during the contest. (Points at Cyprus shooting themselves as the favourite last year after Fuego was performed in the Semi)

Oh absolutely no doubt about it. And odds don't really start to have much clout until rehearsals start, and even then they only start to become accurate when the semis happen. But it was interesting to see that Russia has been leading the odds by a huge margin (even before releasing their song) right up until the Dutch released theirs.

And speaking of Cyprus, a lot of people seem to be hopeful for them this year too.
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Postby Britonisea » Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:01 am

East Gondwana wrote:Odds currently have Netherlands tipped to win, how are we feeling about that?

I like The Netherlands, I would love for the Contest to be held in Amsterdam....but I think the song, while it's excellent, is overrated. It might win in May, but hmm
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Postby Belgaam » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:06 pm

East Gondwana wrote:Odds currently have Netherlands tipped to win, how are we feeling about that?


The Netherlands is an OK song and I actually think they will win but I'm team Kate and Z-e-e-e-e-e-ero Gr-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-avity!
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Postby Borinsa » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:08 pm

Wait, I'm pro-israel but...
why is a middle eastern country participating in Eurovision?
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Postby Belgaam » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:10 pm

Borinsa wrote:Wait, I'm pro-israel but...
why is a middle eastern country participating in Eurovision?


Because the Israeli national broadcaster KAN is a part of the EBU, which means Israel are eligible to compete in Eurovision.
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Postby Borinsa » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:12 pm

Belgaam wrote:
Borinsa wrote:Wait, I'm pro-israel but...
why is a middle eastern country participating in Eurovision?


Because the Israeli national broadcaster KAN is a part of the EBU, which means Israel are eligible to compete in Eurovision.


Why is Israel's song in English?
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Postby Borinsa » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:15 pm

FRANCE: Bilal Hassani - Roi
Cute, and in French, he's not a frenchman though...
It would still be cute if he won.

GERMANY: S!sters - Sister
It's in English, F*ck that

14. ISRAEL: Kobi Marimi- Home
Why is it in English!?

ITALY: Mahmood - Soldi
It's in Italian but it's title doesn't seem very Italian

SPAIN: Miki Núñez - La Venda
...sounds...good

UNITED KINDOM: Michael Rice- Bigger Than Us
Ugh, generic American-sounding love song

I guess Spain gets my vote then...It has that despacito charm to it
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Postby Britonisea » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:15 pm

Borinsa wrote:
Belgaam wrote:
Because the Israeli national broadcaster KAN is a part of the EBU, which means Israel are eligible to compete in Eurovision.


Why is Israel's song in English?


Because there is no restriction on language at Eurovision. Nations prefer to sing in English because it's usually a second language if it isn't a first and statistically is very successful.
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Postby Borinsa » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:17 pm

Britonisea wrote:
Borinsa wrote:
Why is Israel's song in English?


Because there is no restriction on language at Eurovision. Nations prefer to sing in English because it's usually a second language if it isn't a first and statistically is very successful.


Man, fuck English!!
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GDP per capita; 8,259.02 USD GDP; 35,572,978,396.34 USD Exchange rate; 1.00 USD = 2.21 Borins
Majority Faith; Catholic (93.9%) Atheism Rate; 5.96% Atheist Majority ethnicity; Borinsan 98.95%
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Postby Britonisea » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:22 pm

Borinsa wrote:
Britonisea wrote:
Because there is no restriction on language at Eurovision. Nations prefer to sing in English because it's usually a second language if it isn't a first and statistically is very successful.


Man, fuck English!!


You realise you're currently speaking it? :?:
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1st - 113 points - WV41
1st - 98 points - WV63

2nd - 129 points - WV66

World Hit Festival Top 5 | World Hit Festival Factbook
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Postby Borinsa » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:24 pm

Britonisea wrote:
Borinsa wrote:
Man, fuck English!!


You realise you're currently speaking it? :?:


I mean it ruining non-english songs so that the native English songs always win
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Postby Belgaam » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:25 pm

Italy and Portugal never sing in English anymore so I respect them for that.
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Postby Astoriya » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:27 pm

Borinsa wrote:Wait, I'm pro-israel but...
why is a middle eastern country participating in Eurovision?

When you remember that the majority of Israel's population are descended from Europeans (Holocaust, et al)...

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Postby Britonisea » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:28 pm

Borinsa wrote:
Britonisea wrote:
You realise you're currently speaking it? :?:


I mean it ruining non-english songs so that the native English songs always win


Nah, Portugese and Crimean Tatar won in 2016 and 2017 respectively. The winning song last year had elements of another language too... Where are you from?

Belgaam wrote:Italy and Portugal never sing in English anymore so I respect them for that.


Don't you respect the United Kingdom for singing in their own native language?
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1st - 98 points - WV63

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World Hit Festival Top 5 | World Hit Festival Factbook
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Postby Belgaam » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:30 pm

Britonisea wrote:
Borinsa wrote:
I mean it ruining non-english songs so that the native English songs always win


Nah, Portugese and Crimean Tatar won in 2016 and 2017 respectively. The winning song last year had elements of another language too... Where are you from?

Belgaam wrote:Italy and Portugal never sing in English anymore so I respect them for that.


Don't you respect the United Kingdom for singing in their own native language?


I'd just like every single country to sing in their national language, and yes I do respect the UK for singing in their national language, Australia too, and I also respect Ireland because their national language is English and Irish but I would prefer their song in Irish.
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Postby Britonisea » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:43 pm

Belgaam wrote:
Britonisea wrote:
Nah, Portugese and Crimean Tatar won in 2016 and 2017 respectively. The winning song last year had elements of another language too... Where are you from?



Don't you respect the United Kingdom for singing in their own native language?


I'd just like every single country to sing in their national language, and yes I do respect the UK for singing in their national language, Australia too, and I also respect Ireland because their national language is English and Irish but I would prefer their song in Irish.


I see...I see...
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WorldVision Top 5 | WorldVision Factbook
1st - 139 points - WV47
1st - 117 points - WV64
1st - 113 points - WV41
1st - 98 points - WV63

2nd - 129 points - WV66

World Hit Festival Top 5 | World Hit Festival Factbook
1st - 34 points - WHF42
1st - 28 points - WHF37
1st - 20 points - WHF26

2nd - 45 points - WHF40
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Postby Darkmania » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:43 am

Belgaam wrote:
Britonisea wrote:
Nah, Portugese and Crimean Tatar won in 2016 and 2017 respectively. The winning song last year had elements of another language too... Where are you from?



Don't you respect the United Kingdom for singing in their own native language?


I'd just like every single country to sing in their national language, and yes I do respect the UK for singing in their national language, Australia too, and I also respect Ireland because their national language is English and Irish but I would prefer their song in Irish.


While I do also wish that countries can go back singing in their own national languages, something that was last done in 1998, i don't object that other nations (like for sake of argument Sweden) sing in English, because let's face it, the world is globalized and English is a Lingua franca now.

While it's nice to hear danish again in Eurovision (there are danish phrases in the danish entry this year), and we (Norway) sends a joik after 39 years, I believe that to truly Celebrate Diversity, we should hear the national languages from all 41 countries who will travel to a Tel Aviv.

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Postby Darkmania » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:56 am

Borinsa wrote:FRANCE: Bilal Hassani - Roi
Cute, and in French, he's not a frenchman though...
It would still be cute if he won.


Bilal Hassani was born in Paris, he`s just of Moroccan descent.

Borinsa wrote:GERMANY: S!sters - Sister
It's in English, F*ck that


Just because they sing in English and not in german, it doesn't mean that the whole song should just be thrown out.

Borinsa wrote:14. ISRAEL: Kobi Marimi- Home
Why is it in English!?


Its because its a choice made by the host-country to sing in English.

Borinsa wrote:ITALY: Mahmood - Soldi
It's in Italian but its title doesn't seem very Italian


"Soldi" is Italian and means "Money".

Borinsa wrote:SPAIN: Miki Núñez - La Venda
...sounds...good


Agree.

Borinsa wrote:UNITED KINDOM: Michael Rice- Bigger Than Us
Ugh, generic American-sounding love song


At least it doesn't fit the Brexit-songs that the UK has sent last two years (Never Give Up on You and Storm).

Borinsa wrote:I guess Spain gets my vote then...It has that despacito charm to it

:rofl:

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Postby Borinsa » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:35 am

Astoriya wrote:
Borinsa wrote:Wait, I'm pro-israel but...
why is a middle eastern country participating in Eurovision?

When you remember that the majority of Israel's population are descended from Europeans (Holocaust, et al)...

...but I thought Israel was supposed to be their homeland, otherwise the Jewish state would had been founded in some small portion of Eastern Europe of something.
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GDP per capita; 8,259.02 USD GDP; 35,572,978,396.34 USD Exchange rate; 1.00 USD = 2.21 Borins
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Small southeastern European country, not part of EU or Schengen zone, is however part of NATO.

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Postby Myfanwyski » Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:20 pm

'israel' might not have been in palestine as I saw an article in the times once that they were considering making a safe haven for them in uganda. maybe i'm mistaken after looking at this link- 1900's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposals ... wish_state

jeez not just there by the look of it- a bit wierd considering entebbe- i wonder if they the plo intended to take that plane there b'cos of that?

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Postby Minoa » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:37 am

Darkmania wrote:… At least it doesn't fit the Brexit-songs that the UK has sent last two years (Never Give Up on You and Storm) …

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I wonder when the UK will have a Rick Astley/Darude collab as their Eurovision entry.
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Postby Darkmania » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:01 am

Minoa wrote:
Darkmania wrote:… At least it doesn't fit the Brexit-songs that the UK has sent last two years (Never Give Up on You and Storm) …

Snipped for relevance

I wonder when the UK will have a Rick Astley/Darude collab as their Eurovision entry.


I hope too. After all, with Darude being sent to Tel Aviv to make a sandstorm, and Serhat literally being a memegod now, we defiantly need Rick Astley to Eurovision with Darude. Maybe their song will be "Never Gonna Give You Sandstorm"

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Postby Belgaam » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:14 am

Darkmania wrote:
Minoa wrote:Snipped for relevance

I wonder when the UK will have a Rick Astley/Darude collab as their Eurovision entry.


I hope too. After all, with Darude being sent to Tel Aviv to make a sandstorm, and Serhat literally being a memegod now, we defiantly need Rick Astley to Eurovision with Darude. Maybe their song will be "Never Gonna Give You Sandstorm"


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