Trump Supporter Attacked at UC Berkeley

[Aureumterra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg1rZJwPRPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJea5N6G7S4
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyob ... k-n2542057

Shit has gone too far in the US.
So in a nutshell, a Trump supporting conservative activist, Hayden Williams, was trying to recruit people for the right wing campus group Turning point USA. They had set up a table and displayed signs when a person walked up and started throwing punches at him. As soon as it started, Williams started recording the assault on video, while a Campus Reform (another American right wing campus organization) rep recorded the assault from another angle. Based on video footage, it seems the attacker approached Williams and started cursing and violently throwing punches at Williams, which left him with a black eye. Williams later went on Fox News covering the incident in depth, where he described the events leading up to the attack. Senator Tim Scott later spoke out against the attack:

Can you imagine that happening to an African-American or to someone else on that campus? The kind of uproar that would have happened because of that hateful act would have had national attention, and yet only Fox News is covering it thoroughly. The MAGA hat has nothing to do with inciting racism, It's the Left that wants to demonize Donald Trump, even though we have the lowest unemployment rate we've seen in 50 years, even though we have the lowest African-American unemployment rate that we've had in the history of the country, even though we keep moving in the right direction.

So, NSG, what is your opinion of the attack, especially since this follows a high profile “hate crime” sham, with the main difference being video proof.

I feel like this attack highlights how violent the left has been getting over President Trump. Something like this happening in my home country (Iceland) would be extremely disgraceful to the nation, especially over something like politics. I understand many leftists and some rightists hate Trump, but violently attacking someone in this fashion is completely unacceptable.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Defund those fucked up universities. That's what I say.

[Rainbowsix]

universities like this doesnt need to exist... i mean i like the freedom of speech but fighting over this stuff is so dumb...

[Liriena]

I mean... why would you physically assault one of those TPUSA dorks? Just dunk on them. It's remarkably easy. They're the lowest hanging fruit in the "right-wing youth activism" industry. They constantly own themselves with their boomer-marketed memery. Putting on diapers to own the libs, defending Hitler to own the libs, its members getting repeatedly caught being racist piles of shit to own the libs...

Defund those fucked up universities. That's what I say.

Collective punishment. A mark of true individualism and freedom-loving.

[Covorus]

OoF...

That is some serious level polarization... honestly, I blame this on the "Trump Derangement Syndrome" that's been actively encouraged by the most Trump bashing media outlets. I mean, it's one thing to disagree with the guy or find his moral character questionable, it's something else entirely to call him Hitler and then demonize his entire voter base as nothing more than inhuman Nazis...

It's creating fear, division and hate. It's almost as bad as when Abraham Lincoln got slandered as a "miscegenatist" just because he wanted to free the slaves - and you can tell how bad that went. Centuries later... and there's still people disagreeing over what Abraham Lincoln was right.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I mean... why would you physically assault one of those TPUSA dorks? Just dunk on them. It's remarkably easy. They're the lowest hanging fruit in the "right-wing youth activism" industry. They constantly own themselves with their boomer-marketed memery. Putting on diapers to own the libs, defending Hitler to own the libs, its members getting repeatedly caught being racist piles of shit to own the libs...

Defund those fucked up universities. That's what I say.

Collective punishment. A mark of true individualism and freedom-loving.

Closing down left-wing propaganda machines that are funded by the public dime is hardly collective punishment.

[Conserative Morality]

Closing down left-wing propaganda machines that are funded by the public dime is hardly collective punishment.

"Left-wing propaganda machines"

lol

[Liriena]

So, NSG, what is your opinion of the attack, especially since this follows a high profile “hate crime” sham, with the main difference being video proof.

How is the Smollet case relevant even as context? Are you trying to argue that, since the Smollet incident was faked, then right-wing violence as a whole doesn't exist and political violence is a mostly left-wing issue?

I feel like this attack highlights how violent the left has been getting over President Trump. Something like this happening in my home country (Iceland) would be extremely disgraceful to the nation, especially over something like politics. I understand many leftists and some rightists hate Trump, but violently attacking someone in this fashion is completely unacceptable.

Friendly reminder that, not too long ago, a Trump supporter tried to bomb the shit out of everyone Trump hates. And then there was the right-winger that shot up a synagogue. And the Trumpist, Shapiro-loving Quebec mosque shooter. And the loser terrorist of Charlottesville. And the guy who recently got caught planning a killing spree of everyone Trump hates.

Since you felt like contextualizing this attack by pairing it with the Smollet case, I think it's only fair to also pair it with right-wing violence.

[Liriena]

I mean... why would you physically assault one of those TPUSA dorks? Just dunk on them. It's remarkably easy. They're the lowest hanging fruit in the "right-wing youth activism" industry. They constantly own themselves with their boomer-marketed memery. Putting on diapers to own the libs, defending Hitler to own the libs, its members getting repeatedly caught being racist piles of shit to own the libs...


Collective punishment. A mark of true individualism and freedom-loving.

Closing down left-wing propaganda machines that are funded by the public dime is hardly collective punishment.

But then you are making an argument that has nothing immediately to do with this incident.

But also... "Waaaah! They teach stuff I don't like! Pls don't fund them with muh tax dollars!!!"

If anything, they should get more funding. The world needs more people educated in critical thinking, dialectical materialism and whatnot, to counteract the decades upon decades of neocon and neolib dogma.

[Liriena]

Closing down left-wing propaganda machines that are funded by the public dime is hardly collective punishment.

"Left-wing propaganda machines"

lol

Don't you know? Every course in UC Berkeley only features Das Kapital and the bread book as reading material! It's really scary!

[LiberNovusAmericae]

"Waaaah! They teach stuff I don't like! Pls don't fund them with muh tax dollars!!!"

"Waaaaa! You said something I didn't like!!"

[Liriena]

"Trump Derangement Syndrome"

Is that a technical term recognized by the APA? I don't recall seeing it in any version of the DSM.

[Liriena]

"Waaaah! They teach stuff I don't like! Pls don't fund them with muh tax dollars!!!"

"Waaaaa! You said something I didn't like!!"

I'm not seeing a denial here. Nice self-own dude. You're ready to join the ranks of TPUSA.

[Thanatttynia]

Closing down left-wing propaganda machines that are funded by the public dime is hardly collective punishment.

But then you are making an argument that has nothing immediately to do with this incident.

But also... "Waaaah! They teach stuff I don't like! Pls don't fund them with muh tax dollars!!!"

If anything, they should get more funding. The world needs more people educated in critical thinking, dialectical materialism and whatnot, to counteract the decades upon decades of neocon and neolib dogma.

I don’t disagree with your point but I think it may be a bit much to imply academia is offering any sort of meaningful resistance to neoliberalism

[Hammer Britannia]

Honestly, considering the whole Jussie situation, I am sceptical of any and every assault for political reasons at this point.

Or perhaps it's just my inner Alex Jones

[Liriena]

Honestly, considering the whole Jussie situation, I am sceptical of any and every assault for political reasons at this point.

Or perhaps it's just my inner Alex Jones

We all have an Alex Jones inside us, screaming incoherently (and shirtless) about the potbellied vampire goblins who are eating our babies while chugging down Brain Force Plus.

[Aureumterra]

So, NSG, what is your opinion of the attack, especially since this follows a high profile “hate crime” sham, with the main difference being video proof.

How is the Smollet case relevant even as context? Are you trying to argue that, since the Smollet incident was faked, then right-wing violence as a whole doesn't exist and political violence is a mostly left-wing issue?

Nah, I added this as an early deflection to those inevitable people who were going to argue this was fake because Smollett was fake

I feel like this attack highlights how violent the left has been getting over President Trump. Something like this happening in my home country (Iceland) would be extremely disgraceful to the nation, especially over something like politics. I understand many leftists and some rightists hate Trump, but violently attacking someone in this fashion is completely unacceptable.

Friendly reminder that, not too long ago, a Trump supporter tried to bomb the shit out of everyone Trump hates. And then there was the right-winger that shot up a synagogue. And the Trumpist, Shapiro-loving Quebec mosque shooter. And the loser terrorist of Charlottesville. And the guy who recently got caught planning a killing spree of everyone Trump hates.

Since you felt like contextualizing this attack by pairing it with the Smollet case, I think it's only fair to also pair it with right-wing violence.

Fair enough, I don’t recall ever defending right wing violence

[LiberNovusAmericae]

"Waaaaa! You said something I didn't like!!"

I'm not seeing a denial here. Nice self-own dude. You're ready to join the ranks of TPUSA.

I don't see the need to deny your stupid accusations.

[Conserative Morality]

I'm not seeing a denial here. Nice self-own dude. You're ready to join the ranks of TPUSA.

I don't see the need to deny your stupid accusations.

Don't worry - no one else sees any need for you to deny them either.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

I mean... why would you physically assault one of those TPUSA dorks? Just dunk on them. It's remarkably easy. They're the lowest hanging fruit in the "right-wing youth activism" industry. They constantly own themselves with their boomer-marketed memery. Putting on diapers to own the libs, defending Hitler to own the libs, its members getting repeatedly caught being racist piles of shit to own the libs...


Collective punishment. A mark of true individualism and freedom-loving.

Closing down left-wing propaganda machines that are funded by the public dime is hardly collective punishment.

Closing down universities because you think they are nothing but liberal propaganda machines bmdue to the actions of a few sure sounds like some laughably absurd collective punishment to me.

[Liriena]

How is the Smollet case relevant even as context? Are you trying to argue that, since the Smollet incident was faked, then right-wing violence as a whole doesn't exist and political violence is a mostly left-wing issue?

Nah, I added this as an early deflection to those inevitable people who were going to argue this was fake because Smollett was fake

A deflection to deflect others' hypothetical deflections?

Sounds like a Klein bottle of bullshit.

Friendly reminder that, not too long ago, a Trump supporter tried to bomb the shit out of everyone Trump hates. And then there was the right-winger that shot up a synagogue. And the Trumpist, Shapiro-loving Quebec mosque shooter. And the loser terrorist of Charlottesville. And the guy who recently got caught planning a killing spree of everyone Trump hates.

Since you felt like contextualizing this attack by pairing it with the Smollet case, I think it's only fair to also pair it with right-wing violence.

Fair enough, I don’t recall ever defending right wing violence

You didn't defend it, but to start a thread that frames political violence in the United States as a left-wing problem is a potentially troublesome omission that could lead the less informed to form misguided conclusions.

[Liriena]

I'm not seeing a denial here. Nice self-own dude. You're ready to join the ranks of TPUSA.

I don't see the need to deny your stupid accusations.

Nasty adjectives do not a proper defense make.

Face it: you want the entirety of UC Berkeley to be punished for supposed wrongthink.

[Hammer Britannia]

I don't see the need to deny your stupid accusations.

Nasty adjectives do not a proper defense make.

Face it: you want the entirety of UC Berkeley to be punished for supposed wrongthink.

I think LNA is in the wrong here

He doesn't need to close UC for leftism, leftism is a meme that will die on its own.

[Liriena]

I don't see the need to deny your stupid accusations.

Don't worry - no one else sees any need for you to deny them either.

Remember when reactionaries started to appropriate Orwellian terms like "wrongthink" to denounce "the left's" supposed disdain for free speech? Who would have thought that the real, blatant "wrongthink" advocacy would come from the right?

[Liriena]

He doesn't need to close UC for leftism, leftism is a meme that will die on its own.

Technically true. I mean, Fidel Castro did die on his own... but it took several decades and his legacy is still mostly intact, so I'm not sure that's a bad thing.