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Fedele
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[Draft] On Sugar

Postby Fedele » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:29 pm

You'll notice some common language between this proposal and Cosmo's. That's not a coincidence and I got his blessing on it. Considering the devastating health effects of the consumption of refined sugar, I submit the following for your consideration and evisceration.

Observing the widespread recreational consumption of manufactured products containing sugar, especially among minors;

Recognizing the addictive nature of sugar;

Noting the adverse health effects associated with sugar and further noting the high tax-revenue cost associated with treating these health effects in nations with government funded health care;

The World Assembly hereby:

Mandates that all manufactured products containing sugar be labeled on the back with an identifier that states, “This product contains sugar, which is addictive”, the text of which must take up at least 15% of the packaging of the product. This warning must be printed in the language local to the intended marketplace;

Requires that manufactured products containing sugar must be labelled on the front with an identifier which states, “This product contains sugar, which is known to cause cancer, diabetes, obesity, and other serious health problems", the text of which must take up at least 15% of the packaging of the product. This warning must be printed in the language local to the intended marketplace;

Mandates that member nations fund informational campaigns targeted at both minors and adults encouraging them to abstain from consuming manufactured products containing sugar;

Exempts from these regulations agricultural products which contain naturally occurring sugar without having sugar added.

Furthermore,

Encourages member nations to prohibit the sale of manufactured products containing sugar to minors;

Urges member nations to prohibit advertisements for manufactured products containing sugar;

Further encourages member nations to consider taking further action to prevent and discourage sugar consumption, especially among minors.
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Postby Tinfect » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:31 pm

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Sugar really isn't comparable to cigarettes. Go smoke somewhere without me, or anyone else for you to choke.
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Postby Kyoki Chudoku » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:38 pm

Tokiko tilted her head. “Give me one example of a food product which doesn’t contain a sugar, or materials that, when broken down by the human body, becomes a sugar. I can’t help but think this proposal exists solely to make a rather unusual point.”
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:42 pm

Kyoki Chudoku wrote:Tokiko tilted her head. “Give me one example of a food product which doesn’t contain a sugar, or materials that, when broken down by the human body, becomes a sugar. I can’t help but think this proposal exists solely to make a rather unusual point.”

Fedele wrote:Exempts from these regulations agricultural products which contain naturally occurring sugar without having sugar added.

Natural sugars are not subjected to these regulations, only added sugars.
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Postby The New Nordic Union » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:45 pm

Fedele wrote:Encourages member nations to prohibit the sale of manufactured products containing sugar to minors


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Ah, yes, no more bread for minors.
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Postby Kenmoria » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:52 pm

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Postby Greifenburg » Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:49 pm

"I think I have a deja-vu..."

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"Right, I think there was a try to ban sugar once before. Well, while this proposal isn't as radical, we stand opposed. Now if you'll excuse me, it's time for coffee and cake in my office."
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Maowi
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Postby Maowi » Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:56 pm

"You want us to ban our kiddos from having birthday cakes?"

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:11 pm

"No."

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Postby Arasi Luvasa » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:12 pm

Maowi wrote:"You want us to ban our kiddos from having birthday cakes?"

"And bread, practically any pastry really, cool drinks and juices, most sandwich spreads, I believe, chocolate and all other sorts of treats. No thanks."
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Postby Morover » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:25 pm

"I thought this was going to limit sugar use, but this is just absurd. Opposed, and will continue to be opposed unless drastic changes are made."

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Fedele
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Postby Fedele » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:29 pm

Maowi wrote:"You want us to ban our kiddos from having birthday cakes?"


This proposal says nothing about a ban.

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Postby Maowi » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:31 pm

Fedele wrote:
Maowi wrote:"You want us to ban our kiddos from having birthday cakes?"


This proposal says nothing about a ban.


I know it's just recommending banning the sale of sugary foods to kids, I was saying that I find that a little over the top...

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Fedele
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Postby Fedele » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:36 pm

Maowi wrote:
Fedele wrote:
This proposal says nothing about a ban.


I know it's just recommending banning the sale of sugary foods to kids, I was saying that I find that a little over the top...


As the core of the proposal is about warning labels on a dangerous, albeit socially acceptable, product, I would be willing to remove that part.

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Postby The New Nordic Union » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:43 pm

Fedele wrote:As the core of the proposal is about warning labels on a dangerous, albeit socially acceptable, product, I would be willing to remove that part.


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Also the part where I would have to found campaigns to encourage my people to refrain from eating bread?
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Postby Falcania » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:46 pm

First tobacco, now sugar?! Why does the GA want to legislate against joy?
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Postby Fedele » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:48 pm

The New Nordic Union wrote:
Fedele wrote:As the core of the proposal is about warning labels on a dangerous, albeit socially acceptable, product, I would be willing to remove that part.


OOC:
Also the part where I would have to found campaigns to encourage my people to refrain from eating bread?


There are non predatorial companies that make bread without added sugar, and in doing so, refrain from adding to the obesity and diabetes epidemics, particularly among children. I'm honestly surprised that educating consumers is so controversial.

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:54 pm

Fedele wrote:
The New Nordic Union wrote:
OOC:
Also the part where I would have to found campaigns to encourage my people to refrain from eating bread?


There are non predatorial companies that make bread without added sugar, and in doing so, refrain from adding to the obesity and diabetes epidemics, particularly among children. I'm honestly surprised that educating consumers is so controversial.


"Sugar is not a public health hazard like tobacco is, and we don't need the WA telling us how to administer our domestic health programs."

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Postby The New Nordic Union » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:56 pm

Fedele wrote:
The New Nordic Union wrote:
OOC:
Also the part where I would have to found campaigns to encourage my people to refrain from eating bread?


There are non predatorial companies that make bread without added sugar, and in doing so, refrain from adding to the obesity and diabetes epidemics, particularly among children. I'm honestly surprised that educating consumers is so controversial.


OOC:
Bread contains sugar even if you do not add additional, it is a natural process that occurs while baking. If the proposal were about refined sugar, or added sugar, or foodstuffs that contain a high amount of sugar, I would somewhat agree with it. But the way it is phrased right now is overly broad.
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Fedele
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Postby Fedele » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:57 pm

Do you feel that the section that specifies this only pertains to added sugar inadequately accounts for this?
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Postby The New Nordic Union » Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:01 pm

Fedele wrote:Do you feel that the section that specifies this only pertains to added sugar inadequately accounts for this?


OOC:
Yes, I think so, because bread is not an agricultural product and the sugar is not occurring naturally, it is generated during the manufacturing process.
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Postby Elyreia » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:32 pm

Hm. I can't help but think that a better proposal would be to enforce more awareness of added sugar content, rather than outright bans. Leave it to the informed citizenry on what to do, rather than banning completely.
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Fedele
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Postby Fedele » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:11 pm

Elyreia wrote:Hm. I can't help but think that a better proposal would be to enforce more awareness of added sugar content, rather than outright bans. Leave it to the informed citizenry on what to do, rather than banning completely.


Added awareness is what this proposal is about. It doesn't ban added sugar.

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