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Right of sovereignty over the Malvinas Islands.

Postby NS Argentina » Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:47 pm

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Claim of Argentine sovereignty over the Malvinas Islands


Best regards from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Worship of the Argentine Republic and the presidency of the nation of the Republic of Argentina.

Once again we reiterate our sense of sovereignty over the archipelago of the "Malvinas Islands", which is currently under the control of the United Kingdom after the invasion and non-legitimate administration of the islands on January 3, 1833, under the following reasons: Geographical Continuity, Geological Continuity, Inheritance and Legitimate Administration.

1) Geographical Continuity: The Malvinas Islands are close to the Argentine Republic and are part of the private ocean zone belonging to the Argentine Republic.

2) Geological Continuity: The Malvinas Islands are on the American continental shelf to which the United Kingdom does not belong and of which the Argentine Republic is located.

3) Inheritance: The Malvinas Islands were inherited from the Spanish Crown by the United Provinces of the Rio de la Plata, the current Argentine Republic.

4) Legitimate Administration: In 1766 it was established for the first time in Malvinian soil, England, occupation that lasted eight years, ignoring the Spanish claims and other attempts, for England to leave the islands. In addition, the right of first occupant is held by France. Argentina occupied continuously and permanently the Malvinas Islands, from 1817, until the usurpation (1833). It should be noted that since 1811 ships were sent from Buenos Aires, to take care of the territories, until it was definitively established in 1817.
And one of the first acts of the government of Rivadavia, was to sign the budget destined to the Malvinas. In 1820, public and solemn taking of possession takes place. Period that lasted thirteen years, until the English usurpation. Until 03/01/1833, Argentina enjoyed its rights over its territory, although fishing vessels from the United States and Great Britain, were long ago illegally exploiting national territory. Argentina protested many times before the two states, but had no concrete answers.

Throughout the usurpation of the England, Argentina has made visible its desire for the recovery of sovereignty and has carried out many protests against England in the years 1833, 1834, 1841, 1842, 1849-1884 (35 years in a row), 1888 -1908 (20 years in a row), it is also necessary to remember that all Argentine presidents continue to claim Argentine sovereignty over the Malvinas Islands to this day. England did not discover the islands, but spotted them 170 years after they were discovered. Esteban Gómez (deserter of the crew of Magallanes) tries to cross the Atlantic taking the shortest route, in the direction of the Cape of Good Hope. According to the story of Gomez, located 300 miles from the Strait, they see a group of islands "never seen" baptizing them with the name of San Antón, drawing them on a map that would be collected later by the cartographer Reinell, in 1523. This is how they have been discovered the islands, and with their first name "San Antón", that with the passage of time would be called Islas Malvinas. By the time the British inhabited the islands (1690), the occupiers were the French, but then (1764), they left the archipelago, recognizing Spanish sovereignty. By discovery, the islands are Spanish, until in 1810 they are inherited from Spain and become Argentina. Such is the case that the first act of government of Rivadavia is to sign a payment destined to maintain an establishment in the islands. This happened before declaring national independence in 1816.

It is necessary to clarify that the United Kingdom bases its Imperialist and colonial position on the "Desire of the inhabitants" of the Malvinas Islands, inhabitants that are descendants of English, who do not know the Argentine history or their rights of sovereignty over the Islands. Once again we reiterate our right of sovereignty over the Malvinas Islands for all the points already clarified. We continue waiting for a definitive decision of the decolonization council of the United Nations and we demand that the Malvinas Islands be legitimately returned to the Argentine Republic.


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Postby UniversalCommons » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:46 am

From: Mimi Ohyes, First Citizen of UniversalCommons

Dear Citizens and Countryment of Republica Argentina,
Because the Malvinas Islands ownership are in dispute, we will gladly purchase them from you and establish sovereignty over them. We need more land and this is an opportunity to create goodwill between our countries. Name a price which is reasonable and we will work on transferring ownership and secure the islands with our navy.

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Postby South Vangaurdia » Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:17 pm

To the Government of the Argentine Republic:

We already understand that you have received requests for transfer of the Malvinas. We understand your interest in this chain. Thus we have a proposal:

- We will launch a combined military assault to take the islands.
- We will transfer 750 billion marks or more if you desire to your government.
- We will have control of half of the islands, along with up to 2 other islands of cultural, scientific, or economic value (additional money will be payed for this).

Please consider this

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日本太平洋帝国帝国外務省の公式声明
Official Communique from the Imperial Foreign Ministry of Affairs of the Empire of Japanese Pacific States

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To: All parties involved in regards of the Sovereignty of the Falkland Islands.
From: The Imperial Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Empire of Japanese Pacific States, Imperial Foreign Minister, Head of the 5th Regency House of Takatsukasa, Kyoko Takatsukasa
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While under normal circumstances the Japanese Empire would be more than happy to support a "decolonisation" effort on the part of the "western powers", the Empire of Japan will not support any action military or ortherwise to strip the Falkland islands of their British Sovereignty and will side with the British on this matter, as with a recent referendum which one with majority vote, in favour of the continuous British possession of the Falklands. Any attack on these islands to change this will be met with a formal declaration of war by the Japanese Empire and the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere towards all aggressors. We hope this will be the end of the matter.

Signed. Imperial Foreign Minister of the Empire of Japanese Pacific States, Head of the 5th Regency House of Takatsukasa, Regent Kyoko Takatsukasa
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Reino do Brazil believes that democracy is the most rightful system in order to respect the citizens of a country and its freedoms. Having in mind the referendum that took place in the Falkland Islands, His Majesty Government can only be at the side of the British in respect of the will of the people.

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Postby NS Argentina » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:33 pm

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Answer to questions and a fraudulent referendum


Best regards from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Worship of the Argentine Republic and the presidency of the nation of the Republic of Argentina.

In the document drafted, we will proceed to clarify some points under which the Argentine Federal Republic wishes the legitimate transfer of the sovereignty of the Malvinas Islands and we will answer the reason why we consider the "referendum" of the Malvinas Islands as fraudulent.


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Response and Clarification in front of the testimonies of Mimi Ohyes, First Citizen of UniversalCommons and the Ministry of the Interior of South Vangaurdia: On behalf of the government of the Argentine Republic, we publish our gratitude for their unconditional and sincere support for the Argentine Republic, however we do not recover the sovereignty of the Malvinas Islands through the use of a military force, invasion or non-legitimate occupation such as England has done so since we do not share the "iron fist" ideology of the Argentine dictatorship (between 1976-1983) that decided to invade the Malvinas Islands, declaring war on the United Kingdom. We are proud to declare Argentina as a Federal Republic that supports democracy and justice, for that reason we choose to recover the sovereignty that legitimately belongs to us over the Malvinas Islands.

2) Clarification of the reason why the Argentine Republic does not recognize the referendum of the inhabitants of the Malvinas Islands: As we have clarified in our previous letter to demand the sovereignty of the Malvinas Islands, England illegally occupied the islands since 1833 and since then has been dedicated to exclude the Argentine population from the islands and repopulate them, establishing a population of English origin, which belonged to the Malvinas Islands. Therefore, the United Kingdom argues that it will "fulfill" the will of the people of the Malvinas Islands which is "external" to the United Kingdom, however this is an act of hypocrisy and fraudulent "democratic" strategy since the United Kingdom was the one in charge to take care of the needs of the English inhabitants of the Malvinas islands from 1833, reason why no longer Argentine population in the islands exists.
iThis kind of legitimate "Colonialism" can be compared to the annexation of Texas to the US, since Texas was a territory that was part of Mexico, however the USA took hundreds of US citizens to Texas to overcome the Mexican population in the territory and then I use the argument of "We will enforce the will of the people" for the invasion and annexation of Texas. This example is practically the same, the United Kingdom wishes to enforce the "will" of the people of the Malvinas Islands since the population is entirely English and of European origin, not Argentinian.
For these reasons, the Argentine Republic does not wish to return to the population of the islands of Argentine nationality, our interests are reduced to the transfer of legitimate sovereignty by the illegal usurpation committed by England in the year 1833. Because the population is of origin English and European, England should take charge of hosting the population of the Falkland Islands (which does not exceed 3,000 people) in a legitimate territory of England.


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Postby Japan and Pacific States » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:57 pm

日本太平洋帝国帝国外務省の公式声明
Official Communique from the Imperial Foreign Ministry of Affairs of the Empire of Japanese Pacific States

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To: The Foreign Ministry of Argentina
From: The Imperial Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Empire of Japanese Pacific States, Imperial Foreign Minister, Head of the 5th Regency House of Takatsukasa, Kyoko Takatsukasa
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In regards to the accusation of a "fraudulent referendum", the referendum to the knowledge of the Empire of Japan and likely other states, was well within the acceptable margins of international law with only local residents of the island, born and raised taking place and outside observers present. To call such a referendum fraudulent is false. By the wish of the Shogun herself, the Imperial Foreign Ministry reiterates that the referendum was well within international law. The lack of persons on the island from Argentina is not the fault of the British government as in recent years it, unlike the Empire of Japan, has been open to persons coming far and wide to their territories still under the control of the british parliament and crown.

More so were a secondary referendum to take place it could be considered fraudulent were Argentina to "weaponise" it's own population and flood the island with it's own citizens, perhaps another referendum could be attempted in 10 to 15 years time. Though as far as the Japanese Empire and the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere is concerned, the islands will be recognised as British territory until the possibility of a second referendum.

Signed. Imperial Foreign Minister of the Empire of Japanese Pacific States, Head of the 5th Regency House of Takatsukasa, Regent Kyoko Takatsukasa
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The Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs and First Secretary of State, wishes to clarify the position of the Commonwealth of Britannia and Her Territories in regards to the fraudulent and imperialist statement issued by the government of Argentina:
  1. The Commonwealth of the Falkland Islands is a self-governing territory of our commonwealth simply by uti possidetis, ita possideatis, territory of which is sovereign and inviolable.
  2. The Republic of Argentina attempted by right of conquest to claim the Commonwealth in 1982. This dastardly attempt was rightly and soundly defeated.
  3. The inhabitants of the Falkland Islands do not and have no intention whatsoever of naming themselves "Argentinians" or to submit themselves to rule from Buenos Aires.
  4. If the bankrupt and imperialist government in Buenos Aires attempts to claim the Commonwealth again by force of arms the might of Europe and Asia will respond appropriately per the Sudentor Treaty and the Anglo-Fusō Alliance.
  5. The Argentinian Ambassador Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary to the Court of Saint James will be summoned to my Ministry to explain the imperialist ambitions of his government.

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From: The Exilvanian Ministry of Foreign Relations
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The Exilvanian Ministry of Foreign Relations wishes to pass on the well wishes of the Crown Regent and ZZ Reichskommandant to the Argentine Government. The Crown Regent and ZZ Reichskommandant wishes the Argentine Government well in reclaiming their lost province but has ultimately very little hope for it and rates the chances of success low since by the will of the locals these islands should remain with the Anglos, which will heavily influence any ethical international court that could or would decide over these matters.

Should the Argentine Government wish to continue pursuing its dream of reunification in less diplomatic ways, the Royal Dictatorship would be willing to exert pressure upon the Anglos to prevent them from sending greater reinforcements. The rest would be within the hands of the Argentine Government and the strength of its Armed Forces.

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Postby NS Argentina » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:54 am

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The Exilvanian Ministry of Foreign Relations
February 19, 2019.



Formal response from the Presidency of the Nation of the Argentine Republic.


I send my cordial greetings from the presidency of the Federal Republic of Argentina to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Exilvania and to the same government of the Exilvanian nation.

I am grateful, not only in my name but in the name of all Argentines, for their unconditional and sincere support for the cause that concerns the transfer of legitimate sovereignty of the Malvinas Islands. It takes courage and courage to express a strong opinion in a just cause and therefore. I must clarify that the Federal Republic of Argentina has no desire to recover the islands through violent means, which will only bring death and lead to greater conflicts with the United Kingdom.

I am proud to have received a letter from you with such favorable statements and wish to declare that the Argentine Federal Republic is available for meetings and diplomatic events with countries willing to support this just cause. On behalf of the Argentine people, I thank Exilvania for lending its support to this just and anti-imperialist dispute that we have been carrying out for 186 years.


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Postby Bengal and Assam » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:30 am

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The Kingdom of Bengal will remain hostile towards both of the parties involved until the inhabitants of the said island are allowed a referendum regarding the issue. The people of the Malvinias Island must be allowed to voice themselves, and choose their loyalties freely. The Government of Bengal will not remain neutral, nor will it choose to back any of the governments involved, other than the people of Malvinias Island, and it will he more than happy to assist in a free referendum. We hope that this matter will be concluded peacefully

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Postby Japan and Pacific States » Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:35 pm

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日本太平洋帝国帝国外務省の公式声明
Official Communique from the Imperial Foreign Ministry of Affairs of the Empire of Japanese Pacific States

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To: The Foreign Ministry of Bengal and Assam
From: The Imperial Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Empire of Japanese Pacific States, Imperial Foreign Minister, Head of the 5th Regency House of Takatsukasa, Kyoko Takatsukasa
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The Empire of Japan would like to remind Bengal that there has already indeed been a referendum with all parties of actual concern, being the people living on the Falkland Islands which has already resulted in the decision of continued British rule.

Signed. Imperial Foreign Minister of the Empire of Japanese Pacific States, Head of the 5th Regency House of Takatsukasa, Regent Kyoko Takatsukasa
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The Falklandic people are almost entirely of British descent and polls suggest they prefer to be under Brittush rule. Argentina should therefore leave them alone.

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I would like to express my apology over the misunderstanding. I mean no offense, but I believe that the Argentine government has done a shrewd move by using the name of the islands that is not internationally recognised by any countries. I am aware of the referendum that took place, and the belief of the Argentine government that it was a farcial referendum. In light of this, after consulting with the Members of the Cabinet, and His Majesty, the Mikado(King), its concluded that the Government of the Kingdom of Bengal will back the United Kingdom against the stubborn Argentine Government that is blind to reality and the wishes of the Falklandinc People.


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Best regards from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Worship of the Argentine Republic and the presidency of the nation of the Republic of Argentina.

Due to the misinformation presented by nations such as the Kingdom of Bengal, we are respectfully obliged to present the list of nations that recognize the Malvinas Islands as sovereignty of the federal republic of Argentina.

International organizations such as the OEA, ALADI, UNASUR, Mercosur and the UN recognize the Malvinas Islands as Argentine sovereignty, to emphasize in this fact, last March 2016 the same UN organization recognized that the Malvinas Islands formed part of the Argentine territory (that is to say, that the Malvinas Islands are within the Argentine territory, including the maritime border).

The following list includes the list of countries that are in favor of the Argentine Republic legitimately recovering the sovereignty of the Malvinas Islands:
Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Armenia, Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belize, Benin, Bhutan, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei Darussalam, Bulgaria, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Canada, Cape Verde, Chile, China, Colombia, Comoros, Congo, Costa Rica, Côte d’Ivoire, Croatia, Cuba, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Denmark, Djibouti, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Fiji, Finland, Gabon, Georgia, Germany, Ghana, Greece, Grenada, Guatemala, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Ireland, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Lao People’s Democratic Republic, Latvia, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Madagascar, Malawi, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Malta, Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Mauritius, Mexico, Monaco, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Nepal, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Niger, Nigeria, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Panama, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Republic of Korea, Republic of Moldova, Romania, Russian Federation, Rwanda, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, San Marino, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Solomon Islands, Somalia, South Africa, South Vanguardia, Spain, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Swaziland, Sweden, Switzerland, Syria, Tajikistan, Thailand, The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Timor-Leste, Togo, Tonga, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Tuvalu, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, United Republic of Tanzania, Uruguay, UniversalCommons, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, Venezuela, Viet Nam, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe.

Countries that declare themselves neutral or refrain from taking a position in the face of conflict:
Central African Republic, Chad, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Gambia, Kiribati, Micronesia (Federated States of), Nauru, Palau, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Sao Tome and Principe, Seychelles, South Sudan, Belgium, France.

Countries against the claim of the Argentine sovereignty in the Malvinas Islands: Israel, United Kingdom, United States.


For the present statement I hope to have clarified our situation of support at the international level and we again demand that the United Kingdom abandon its imperialist behavior and again grant the Argentine Republic the sovereignty that belongs to it for legitimacy.

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Postby Japan and Pacific States » Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:21 am

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日本太平洋帝国帝国外務省の公式声明
Official Communique from the Imperial Foreign Ministry of Affairs of the Empire of Japanese Pacific States

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To: The Foreign Ministry of Argentina
From: The Imperial Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Empire of Japanese Pacific States, Imperial Foreign Minister, Head of the 5th Regency House of Takatsukasa, Kyoko Takatsukasa
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We recognise the Empire of Japan as well as multiple states of the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere have been falsely listed as "In favour of the Falkland Islands belonging to the Argentine Republic".

These States being the Empire of Japan, The Republic of China, The Free State of India, The Empire of Vietnam, The Kingdom of Laos, The Republic of the Philippines, The Kingdom of Thailand. And as well we note a lack of mention of the states of the Empire of Manchuko, The State of Burma, and Menjiang. We hope this will be corrected in due time as well as the notion of there being two Koreas when there is only one and it is an assimilated prefectural state of the Empire of Japan.

The true placement on this list for the previously mentioned states is under, "Countries against the claim of the Argentine sovereingty of the Falkland Islands." We hope this list will be corrected soon as falsely claiming the Empire of Japan's backing of a nation we have already previously denounced ownership of the Falkland Islands too is not only an insult to this office but an insult to the Shogun of the Japanese Empire herself, and her stance on the matter.

Signed. Imperial Foreign Minister of the Empire of Japanese Pacific States, Head of the 5th Regency House of Takatsukasa, Regent Kyoko Takatsukasa
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Postby Bengal and Assam » Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:01 am

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In light of the recent publishing of the fraudalent list of countries opposing British Sovereignity over the Falkland Islands. The Government of the Kingdom of Bengal finds itself responsible to publish a list of countries that support British sovereignity over the Islands.
Kingdom of Bengal, Empire of Japan and members of the Co-Prosperity Sphere such as the Pacific States of America, Manchuko, Menguko, Siam(Thailand), Republic of China, India, Vietnam, Laos, The Philippines. Other countries that oppose Argentine Sovereignity over Falkland Islands are the member states of the European Union including the United Kingdom, member states of the Commonwealth, such as Canada, Australia, New Zealand and last but not least, the United States of America
Kingdom of Bengal
Empire of Japan
Pacific States of America
Manchuko
Menguko
Siam
Vietnam
Laos
India
The Philipines
EU Member States(22countries+ the United Kingdom)
British Dominions such as Canada, Australia and New Zealand



Signed, サイキョナカスキ、ベンガルオコクガイムダイジン(Sayko Nakasuki, Minister of Forerign Affairs of the Kingdom of Bengal)


NOTE(OOC): This list is based on a mixture RL statistics, and the list provided by JPS. Its subject to change if OP wants it to, after negotiation of course
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Postby NS Argentina » Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:28 am

I would change the census if it were not for the fact that their nations occupy too large territories and, furthermore, the censuses are real, I have not invented them. In any case, they should carry out their own national censuses (and avoid Latin American nations from opposing Argentina, it is really very unrealistic. I will shortly make a post about a meeting between representatives of countries, I will create the application soon.
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To: President of Argentina Agustina Neumann.


Return Adress: Felicia Sciotóg of the Tribe of Monaghan, Foreign Office, Elder Castle, Fortham, Free Lands of the Selkie.
Thursday, 21st of February, 2019.


Open letter.

Ma'am,
I write to you today concerning the age-old Falklands-Question and on the official stance of the Free Lands of the Selkie on that matter: It is the expressed will of the Council of Elders, representing the Fifteen Tribes of the Selkie, to see the Falkland Islands in the hands of the People of the Falkland Islands, their rightful owners.
As they chose in a recent referendum to remain as a part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, they will remain as a part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland due to them choosing so. Maybe, in a future referendum, they will decide against that, but that is for the future to decide.
It is not in the purview of anyone other then the People of the Falkland Islands to decide that. Meaning, that it is not in the purview of the United Nations, the World Assembly and least of all in your purview to decide for them.
Should the Argentine Republic consider acting against the proclaimed will of the People of the Falkland Islands, for example by escalating this issue, the Free Lands will consider to act.

With best regards,
Felicia Sciotóg of the Tribe of Monaghan,
Head of the Foreign Office of the Free Lands of the Selkie.
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Postby NS Argentina » Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:12 am

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Felicia Sciotóg of the Tribe of Monaghan, Foreign Office, Elder Castle, Fortham, Free Lands of the Selkie
21 february, 2019.



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Warm greetings from the presidency of the nation of the Federal Republic of Argentina.

I read your letter cordially carefully and I could not avoid relating it to the multiple doubts that the countries have about the reason why the Argentine Republic does not value the referendum made in the Malvinas Islands as "legitimate" and I will express to you later to you the reasons why the Federal Republic of Argentina declares the referendum carried out as fraudulent and lacking in legitimate democracy.

After the Spanish crown had depopulated the Malvinas Islands in 1811 due to the independence of the United Provinces of the South (Argentina) and the Napoleonic Wars, the territory that composes the Malvinas Islands was repopulated by Argentines and an administrative authority was designated in Buenos Aires destined to the administration of the Malvinas Islands, including a budget that was granted to this administrative authority so that it took care of the necessities of the inhabitants of the islands. Due to the frequent presence of North American ships to carry out activities such as illegal fishing, the Argentine military authorities of the Malvinas Islands prohibited North American ships from carrying out illegal activities near the islands, this led to the United States conducting "diplomatic" talks with Britain and subsequently a British invasion and usurpation took place on the islands in 1833, stripping the United Provinces of the South (Argentina) of the Falkland Islands membership illegitimate. The Argentine population that inhabited in the Malvinas Islands was captured and later exiled of the Islands, reason why Great Britain took the arbitrary and illegitimate decision to repopulate the Islands although they had usurped them. Since then, despite the claims of Argentina about its sovereignty in the islands (which have occurred numerous times and consecutively from 1833 to the present), The United Kingdom has refused to return the sovereignty of the islands, basing their argument on respecting the will of the "people" of the Malvinas Islands. It should be noted that this "people" is purely and totally European descendent, especially the United Kingdom, so the "will" of the people is not really a "will" but a response to the economic interests that Britain presents despite that the evidence that the Malvinas Islands are Argentine sovereign, I need to clarify directly and sincerely that the Federal Republic of Argentina does not intend to convert the English population of the Malvinas Islands into Argentinean population, because our nation DOES NOT RECLAIM THE NATIONALITY OF THE PEOPLE but the TERRITORY IN WHICH THEY HABIT, because the territory of the Malvinas Islands belongs LEGITIMATELY TO THE ARGENTINE REPUBLIC and not to the United Kingdom, so the current inhabitants of the islands ARE NOT THE OWNERS OF THE ISLANDS because they are not ARGENTINE, therefore, I reiterate that our claim of sovereignty is limited to the TERRITORY and not to the POPULATION of the Malvinas Islands based on the principles of "Geographica continuity", "Geological continuity", "Territorial continuity", "Heritage" and "First legitimate administrative government".

With all due respect I hope to have clarified your doubts about why Argentina (together with most of the countries that recognize Argentine sovereignty) consider this "Referendum" as fraudulent, since the only legitimate people that inhabited these islands was the Argentine people, which was expelled illegitimately after the English invasion of 1833.We also reiterate that Argentina is not a nation that opts for war since the return of democracy in 1983, therefore interpreting that the Argentine Republic will take the Malvinas Islands by force is somewhat erroneous since it is not possible to happen. It is of utmost priority to clarify that the Organization of the United Nations did not recognize the "referendum" of the Malvinas Islands as "legitimate", therefore, it is invalidated as a justification for the United Kingdom to continue with their imperialist and neo-colonialist attitudes, among many of the reasons already explained, it is interpreted that the issue of the Malvinas Islands is not a matter of "self-determination" of the people to feel identified with the British nationality or Argentina, it is a matter of "legitimate sovereignty". cordial greetings.


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Postby Saranidia » Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:22 am

Whilst remaining militarily neutral,
The Islamic Republic of Saranidia condemns this disguised form of Argentinian colonialism based on nativism, racial nationalism and irredentism and basically akin to Zionism in trying to without any real legal or moral basis "right" historic "wrongs".
If any war crimes are committed by the Argentinians we will sell weapons to the anti-Argentinian forces or intervene ourselves.
We condemn the future use of settlers to change the population dynamics by either side.
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Postby Reino do Brazil » Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:10 am

NS Argentina wrote:
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UN decolonization council.
21 february, 2019.


Responding to false and incoherent claims.


Best regards from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Worship of the Argentine Republic and the presidency of the nation of the Republic of Argentina.

Due to the misinformation presented by nations such as the Kingdom of Bengal, we are respectfully obliged to present the list of nations that recognize the Malvinas Islands as sovereignty of the federal republic of Argentina.

International organizations such as the OEA, ALADI, UNASUR, Mercosur and the UN recognize the Malvinas Islands as Argentine sovereignty, to emphasize in this fact, last March 2016 the same UN organization recognized that the Malvinas Islands formed part of the Argentine territory (that is to say, that the Malvinas Islands are within the Argentine territory, including the maritime border).

The following list includes the list of countries that are in favor of the Argentine Republic legitimately recovering the sovereignty of the Malvinas Islands:
Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Armenia, Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belize, Benin, Bhutan, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei Darussalam, Bulgaria, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Canada, Cape Verde, Chile, China, Colombia, Comoros, Congo, Costa Rica, Côte d’Ivoire, Croatia, Cuba, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Denmark, Djibouti, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Fiji, Finland, Gabon, Georgia, Germany, Ghana, Greece, Grenada, Guatemala, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Ireland, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Lao People’s Democratic Republic, Latvia, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Madagascar, Malawi, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Malta, Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Mauritius, Mexico, Monaco, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Nepal, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Niger, Nigeria, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Panama, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Republic of Korea, Republic of Moldova, Romania, Russian Federation, Rwanda, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, San Marino, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Solomon Islands, Somalia, South Africa, South Vanguardia, Spain, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Swaziland, Sweden, Switzerland, Syria, Tajikistan, Thailand, The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Timor-Leste, Togo, Tonga, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Tuvalu, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, United Republic of Tanzania, Uruguay, UniversalCommons, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, Venezuela, Viet Nam, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe.

Countries that declare themselves neutral or refrain from taking a position in the face of conflict:
Central African Republic, Chad, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Gambia, Kiribati, Micronesia (Federated States of), Nauru, Palau, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Sao Tome and Principe, Seychelles, South Sudan, Belgium, France.

Countries against the claim of the Argentine sovereignty in the Malvinas Islands: Israel, United Kingdom, United States.


For the present statement I hope to have clarified our situation of support at the international level and we again demand that the United Kingdom abandon its imperialist behavior and again grant the Argentine Republic the sovereignty that belongs to it for legitimacy.

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President of Argentina, Agustina Neumann.


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Postby Rupudska » Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:48 pm

NS Argentina wrote:
I would change the census if it were not for the fact that their nations occupy too large territories and, furthermore, the censuses are real, I have not invented them. In any case, they should carry out their own national censuses (and avoid Latin American nations from opposing Argentina, it is really very unrealistic. I will shortly make a post about a meeting between representatives of countries, I will create the application soon.

A significant number of nations active on NS/II have large or even overlapping territories on maps either based on or similar to Earth. While some choose to alter their maps for the sake of the roleplay to prevent overlapping claims, many prefer not to, and for that reason many nations (myself included) prefer to treat such claims as irrelevant, instead preferring to let those who have claims keep them on an infinitely large NS Hyper-Earth that allows simultaneous claims to the same area to exist.

As an example, my nation ICly lays claim to all German, Danish, and Dutch territorial and colonial claims pre-WWI outside of India, China, and SEA (excluding the Indonesian archipelago, which Karlsland claims in its entirety), as well as the southern 3 (I think it's 3) states of Brazil.


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To: International Community - Public Statement
Subject: Diplomatic mission application

Greetings!

On behalf of the people and government of the Holy Romagnan Empire of Karlsland, I, Liesel Poplawski, with permission of His Imperial Majesty and Chancellor Bachmeier, would like to clarify and confirm the position of the Holy Romagnan Empire of Karlsland, and the HRE as a whole, in regards to the situation involving the Falkland Islands, and the claims made by the Republic of Argentina thereto.

  • The Commonwealth of the Falkland Islands are territory of the Commonwealth of Britannia via Uti Possidetis.
  • The Republic of Argentina has not controlled the Falkland Islands in any capacity since failing to regain control after a mutiny and annexation of said archipelago by the Commonwealth of Britannia in 1832. It (lawfully) protested this, but made no true attempts, diplomatic or martial, to reclaim the Falkland Islands until well after its establishment as a Crown Colony. However, except in times of extreme political closeness with Britannia, Karlsland has backed Argentine claims to the region.
  • The Republic of Argentina abandoned diplomacy and attempted to seize the Falkland Islands in 1982, an attempt that was successfully repelled.
  • In response, His Imperial Majesty declared Karlsland's official support of Britannia's claim, declaring that as the then-military dictatorship had abandoned diplomatic attempts to claim the islands (despite Britannia both considering and pursuing transferring sovereignty to Argentina at several points in the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s, only to be shot down either by lobbyists from the Falkland Islands or Argentina themselves), they had thusly abandoned the right to the Falklands.
  • The inhabitants of the Falkland Islands have since made it abundantly clear both through referendums, political, and social discourse that they have no interest of becoming subjects of the Republic of Argentina.
  • Despite deteriorating relations between Britannia and Argentina, Karlsland remains willing to mediate a diplomatic resolution to the status of the Falkland Islands. However, should it come to a martial resolution, per the Sudentor Treaty, Karlsland will back Britannia's claim.
  • The Imperial and Royal Ministry of Foreign Affairs notes that geological surveys in the early to mid 1990s revealed the presence of oil in and around the Falkland Islands, and notes with some concern that Britannian-Argentine relations began to sour at approximately the same time, and with rising evidence of oil in the region there has been rising interest in Argentine control of the region within said nation's government.

In the name of Wir Frederick VI von Gottes Gnaden Heiliger Römagnischer Kaiser, zu aller Zeiten mehrer des Reiches, König der Deutschen, König von Preußen, Markgraf zu Brandenburg, Burggraf zu Nürnberg, Graf zu Hohenzollern, Souveräner und oberster Herzog von Schlesien wie auch der Grafschaft Glatz, Großherzog vom Niederrhein und Posen, Herzog zu Sachsen, Westfalen und Engern, zu Pommern, Lüneburg, Holstein und Schleswig, zu Magdeburg, Bremen, Geldern, Cleve, Jülich und Berg, sowie auch der Wenden und Kaschuben, zu Krossen, Lauenburg, Mecklenburg, Landgraf zu Hessen und Thüringen, Markgraf der Ober- und Niederlausitz, Prinz von Oranien, Fürst zu Rügen, zu Ostfriesland, zu Paderborn und Pyrmont, zu Halberstadt, Münster, Minden, Osnabrück, Hildesheim, zu Verden, Kammin, Fulda, Nassau und Mörs, gefürsteter Graf zu Henneberg, Graf der Mark und zu Ravensberg, zu Hohenstein, Tecklenburg und Lingen, zu Mansfeld, Sigmaringen und Veringen, Herr von Frankfurt,

I have the honor to remain,
Liesel Poplawski, Minister of Foreign Affairs
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Foreign Affairs Officer Leonid Kazmov, Office of Foreign Affairs, Office of the Tzarina Romanov



Upon receiving news of this, I have, with a exasperated sigh, bothered the sitting Tzarina with this situation. Upon Consulting the Tzarina and her official in Court, I am authorized to confer the Support of the British Claim to the Falklands Islands, as per Uti Possidetis. The Office of the Tzarina would have been more accepting of the Argentine Claim, how ever, the utter disregard of the Opinion of the inhabitants of the island and the unlawful seizure of said island (Read: Falklands war of 1982), combined with the utter failure the Argentine Military to effectively hold a military objective, has turned the Opinion of the Tzarina and royal Family from the idea of supporting the Argentine republic.


I would write further, how ever my dear friends and allies in Karsland have summarized the key points that the Tzarina and the People of Parcian Russia agree upon.

In summery, the Falklands belongs to Britain, I would recommend you focus your efforts towards the internal strife and conflicts that have racked Argentina for decades, rather then trying to distract your people with the idea of retaking a set of islands you long since lost the right to claim.


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Postby NS Argentina » Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:29 pm

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UN decolonization council.
February 17, 2019.


New explanations.



Best regards from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Worship of the Argentine Republic and the presidency of the nation of the Republic of Argentina.


I regret that we have to present again explanations to historical situations that are explained by themselves and again, before statements that we have already clarified but that have not been taken into account despite the explanations that we have previously provided.

The statement made by Liesel Poplawski, Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Holy Roman Empire of Karlsland about our "abandonment" of the "democratic road" due to the 1982 war that was carried out by a tough Argentine dictatorship supported by economic groups and by the US government in an attempt (unfortunately, satisfactory) to eliminate all traces of communism and socialism in Latin America (commonly referred to as the "condor plan"), the Argentine dictatorship did not respond to the interests of the people nor represented the Argentine people and in a desperate attempt to secure more years of dictatorial rule in Argentina, declared war on the United Kingdom believing that if they regained sovereignty over the Malvinas Islands by force they would have many more years in the Argentine political power, for that reason the then president de facto Leopoldo Fortunato Galtieri declared the war to the United Kingdom. It is not necessary to explain the results of the war nor all the war crimes carried out in the course of this armed conflict because it is not the issue for which we are discussing. It is our obligation to make it clear that the decisions taken between 1976 and 1983 were not by democratic governments, but by dictatorships established by the great foreign economic capitals and the American influence in the Latin American area. I recommend avoiding talking about what happened in 1982 if you do not have real and clear information, since claims like "Argentina's choice" to have declared war on the United Kingdom is a statement not only offensive, but also ignorant and lacking in meaning if we take into account all the historical events that took place before, during the war and after the war.

We hope not to offend the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Holy Roman Empire of Karlsland as he has done with us. Finally, we will not present a detailed explanation about why we and most of the member countries of the UN reject the Malvinas Islands as a legitimate "referendum", because it is not a matter of "self-determination" but a matter of "territorial sovereignty", making it clear that the Argentine Republic recognizes the population of the Malvinas Islands as a descendant population of settlers that illegitimately expelled the Argentine population, which had been established with complete legitimacy until the year 1833 and for everything said above, we do not want to "nationalize" the population of the Malvinas Islands because it is not a population with Argentine ties, but a population with European and British ties that will only respond to the interests of their culture, a culture that belongs to the United Kingdom leaving aside, the logic that they inhabit a territory which does not legitimately belong to the United Kingdom. Best regards and we hope to have cleared the doubts of the referendum in a definitive way together about what happened in 1982. It should also be noted that since 2016 the UN recognized that the Malvinas Islands are within the Argentine maritime platform, adding greater strength to the principle of "Geographical Continuity"

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President of Argentina, Agustina Neumann.
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