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Prusenreich
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Founded: Aug 15, 2018
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I am a communist monarchy

Postby Prusenreich » Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:52 am

I just find it odd how I am getting events that talk about the party and communist issues even though I am also a
Feudal monarchy
Based off a Custom Euiv nation

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New Excalibus
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Postby New Excalibus » Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:55 am

Perhaps it's maybe because not many issues focus on Feudalism and Monarchy. Otherwise, can't help you.
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Archandia
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Re: I am a communist monarchy

Postby Archandia » Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:56 am

Hi Prusenreich,

Hope you're enjoying NationStates :)

Prusenreich wrote:I just find it odd how I am getting events that talk about the party and communist issues even though I am also a
Feudal monarchy


Are you talking about in-game Issues?

If so, this is the wrong sub-forum for this discussion thread. The right place would be the Got Issues (Edit: or maybe, Technical sub-forum?), which can be found here: [ click me ] (for Got Issues) or [ click me ] (for Technical)

See you round the NationStates sub-forum!
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Wawakanatote
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Founded: Feb 19, 2012
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Wawakanatote » Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:58 am

The powerhouse Prusssian economy, worth 96.0 trillion Reichmarks a year, is driven entirely by a combination of government and state-owned industry, with private enterprise illegal.


The sentence above is why you have those options, just take note of that last part especially. Other than that, take NS issues with a grain of salt, they aren't to reliable in terms of economic systems.
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OOC Factbook
Pro: Marxism-Leninism
Anti: Capitalism, Fascism
We do not exist under communism, but under the
primary stage of socialist development (nep/state capitalism)
Please adjust accordingly
Full Nation Name: Supranational Union of Socialist Republics
Government: Federal Intergovernmental P&E Union
Political Leaders: C.Song Liyuan, V.C.Lev Bronshtein
National Anthem: "Hymn of the Union"
"Seek Truth From Facts!"- Deng Xiaoping, Chairman of the Central Advisory Commission
"Peace, Equality, Unity" | "Мир, равенство, единство" | "和平,平等,团结"

For more information go to: Our National Factbook

Take NS stats with a grain of salt

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Gorgondria
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Founded: May 25, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Gorgondria » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:12 am

Monarchy is a system of government that is obsolete. The worker’s revolutionary government is one that is absent of old bourgeois ideals. The Kings of past ages have used their powers to abuse of the poor peasants.

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Snaerike
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Founded: Jul 05, 2018
Father Knows Best State

Postby Snaerike » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:16 am

Prusenreich wrote:I just find it odd how I am getting events that talk about the party and communist issues even though I am also a
Feudal monarchy


Nepal was a communist monarchy for some time. It happens.
And the old Baltic Prussians were a remarkably egalitarian society too.

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Uinted Communist of Africa
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Founded: Sep 28, 2016
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Uinted Communist of Africa » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:16 am

As far as I know I'm the most famous Communist monarchy here.....was this just bait to get me into the open?
My fact books explain a little bit of how my communist government work if you interested.
In a lot of ways Real life dictatorship is already a monarchy.....they just haven't claimed it.
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[_★_] copy and paste. Join the revolution!!!! Stats are for the mentally advanced...change my mind.
( -_- ) My nation does support my political views...deal with it.

"We do not want a single foot of foreign territory; but of our territory we shall not surrender a single inch to anyone." - Joseph Stalin, 1930

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Polish Prussian Commonwealth
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Polish Prussian Commonwealth » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:21 am

Gorgondria wrote:Monarchy is a system of government that is obsolete. The worker’s revolutionary government is one that is absent of old bourgeois ideals. The Kings of past ages have used their powers to abuse of the poor peasants.

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You sure you're not referring to the feudal noblemen instead of the king?
There's a difference, you know.
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IC name is "Blauveldt-Ryszana".

A traumatized, but recovering, MT-Early PMT/FanT constitutional monarchy consisting of a personal and constitutional union of two Realms. Features: near-universal gun ownership, governmental dysfunction, terrified Christinaslander Air National Guard personnel counting down the days until they rotate back home, and an eternal standoff with the last of it's former oppressors.


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Prusenreich
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Postby Prusenreich » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:08 am

I don't have a problem with it I just find it funny how I am both liberating the proletariat and keeping the peasants under control of their feudal lord
Based off a Custom Euiv nation

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Trotterdam
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Trotterdam » Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:26 pm

NationStates considers you "communist" if you have a planned economy that does not permit private enterprise, even if your motive for wanting a planned economy is different from liberating the proletariat.

Keep in mind that while, under feudalism, nobles (with the license of the king) exploited the labor of their serfs in a manner that resembles a planned economy, this was never the whole of the economy. There has always been an independent merchant and artisan class, as well, and nobles were often quite happy to encourage this so that there would be more cool stuff on the market that they could buy with all the money they extorted from their serfs. What banning private enterprise means for you, I guess, is that you do not have this middle class, and the work they would do is instead done by other means (perhaps extending the institution of serfdom to activities other than farming).

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UniversalCommons
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Ex-Nation

Postby UniversalCommons » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:47 pm

You could pretend the monarchy abdicated and has become a state symbol, and the party or farmers council or grange actually runs everything. Some medieval farmers were well organized into granges a combination of farm and castle.
https://www.archaeology.ie/sites/defaul ... nal-09.pdf

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Candlewhisper Archive
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Anarchy

Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:31 am

Thinking about real life communist monarchies, I suppose for the most part we're looking at monarchies that claim the trappings of socialism.

North Korea springs to mind as the most obvious example, with one family passing on rule by inheritance while claiming to rule according to Communist ideology, and running a planned economy. There was also Romania's communist monarchy, but that was more of a transitional state than anything else.

I think within the fiction of NS we've assumed that an absence of capitalism means the presence of communism as it allows more interesting stories to be told for those non-capitalist countries. Of course actually there's all sorts of different planned economies. The absence of capitalism doesn't necessarily imply a commitment to social equality.

The best way to get a story more specific to your type of nation is to come to Got Issues and to draft an issue with the validity limits of "non-capitalist and monarchy", and present a nice dilemma that might exist in a nation like that.
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Wawakanatote
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Founded: Feb 19, 2012
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Wawakanatote » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:50 am

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:North Korea springs to mind as the most obvious example,.


Yep, that's going into my cringe compilation.
OOC Factbook
Pro: Marxism-Leninism
Anti: Capitalism, Fascism
We do not exist under communism, but under the
primary stage of socialist development (nep/state capitalism)
Please adjust accordingly
Full Nation Name: Supranational Union of Socialist Republics
Government: Federal Intergovernmental P&E Union
Political Leaders: C.Song Liyuan, V.C.Lev Bronshtein
National Anthem: "Hymn of the Union"
"Seek Truth From Facts!"- Deng Xiaoping, Chairman of the Central Advisory Commission
"Peace, Equality, Unity" | "Мир, равенство, единство" | "和平,平等,团结"

For more information go to: Our National Factbook

Take NS stats with a grain of salt


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