Abandoned

[Carstantinopipal]

Man, you guys worked on everything too well

[Imperium Anglorum]

If you want to talk about euthanasia, you need to look at Asssisted Suicide Act.

[Carstantinopipal]

If you want to talk about euthanasia, you need to look at Asssisted Suicide Act.

I have read it over, do you believe that sense my resolution grants immortal beings the right to euthanasia contradicts that resolutions grant to nations that they can choose for themselves if euthanasia is legal?

[Imperium Anglorum]

Yes. And the solution is to repeal the old act.

[Carstantinopipal]

Yes. And the solution is to repeal the old act.

Well I dont believe it prohibits the WA getting involved in a nation's euthanasia politics, especially for cases where suicide is the only option, does it?

[Imperium Anglorum]

Grants every member state, subject only to this resolution and active resolutions previously adopted by this Assembly, the authority to determine for itself the legal status of assisted suicide and euthanasia in its jurisdiction;

[Carstantinopipal]

Grants every member state, subject only to this resolution and active resolutions previously adopted by this Assembly, the authority to determine for itself the legal status of assisted suicide and euthanasia in its jurisdiction;

Yes I know, as I said I have read it, but I don't believe this is baring further WA involvement.

[Imperium Anglorum]

Why not?

[Carstantinopipal]

Why not?

Well it is not explicitly said, its not very clear if it is blocking WA involvement and it seems up to interpretation.

[Imperium Anglorum]

It explicitly does those things. If something is subject only to that resolution and it's antecedents, your proposal would contradict that statement. Then it's illegal from the contradiction rule.

[Wallenburg]

Why not?

Well it is not explicitly said, its not very clear if it is blocking WA involvement and it seems up to interpretation.

That clause from the Assisted Suicide Act could not possibly be more explicit in reserving to member states full authority to determine the legality of assisted suicide/euthanasia.

[Carstantinopipal]

It could be more explicit and it should be, but this is a pointless argument. I see some ways we can fix this, we can change the wording so that it doesn't even mention, state assisted suicide, which seems to be the contridicting point. We can change it to be a suggestion but if I were to do that then I could just change the whole resolution to be a ban on forced immortality which I am now leaning towards doing. Or I guess we can make the attempt that IA suggested and repeal the old resolution but I am more in favor for just changing the resolution as a whole to a ban on forced immortality personally.

[Imperium Anglorum]

The contradiction happens solely in that place where the grant occurs, giving nations authority to legislate on euthanasia, which this is, solely within the confines of that resolution and its antecedents.

[Carstantinopipal]

Then what change do you suggest for the resolution?

[Imperium Anglorum]

For now, nothing. Repeal Assisted Suicide Act.

[Carstantinopipal]

I don't believe there is much need to repeal that resolution, I am going to rewrite this as a ban on forced immortality.

[Separatist Peoples]

I don't believe there is much need to repeal that resolution, I am going to rewrite this as a ban on forced immortality.

"I'm not sure how that wouldn't inevitably be a violation of the Patient's Rights Act. A procedure that causes immortality sounds an awful lot like a medical procedure, in which case, forced procedures are already banned."

[Imperium Anglorum]

If you cannot end your life, is that not forced immortality?

[Carstantinopipal]

I don't believe there is much need to repeal that resolution, I am going to rewrite this as a ban on forced immortality.

"I'm not sure how that wouldn't inevitably be a violation of the Patient's Rights Act. A procedure that causes immortality sounds an awful lot like a medical procedure, in which case, forced procedures are already banned."

That is true, well then it seems this issue is already resolved, back to the drawing board

[Bears Armed]

"I'm not sure how that wouldn't inevitably be a violation of the Patient's Rights Act. A procedure that causes immortality sounds an awful lot like a medical procedure, in which case, forced procedures are already banned."

That is true, well then it seems this issue is already resolved, back to the drawing board

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