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Out of the candidates who are in/have exploratory committees, who would you support?

President Donald Trump
115
34%
Sen. Elizabeth Warren
20
6%
Former HUD Secretary Julian Castro
4
1%
Soon-to-be Former Congressman John Delaney
2
1%
South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg
6
2%
Sen. Kamala Harris
14
4%
Sen. Kristen Gillibrand
2
1%
Rep. Tulsi Gabbard
25
7%
Sen. Cory Booker
9
3%
Sen. Bernie Sanders
137
41%
 
Total votes : 334

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Eternal Lotharia
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Postby Eternal Lotharia » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:47 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Blargoblarg wrote:Bernie cut his head on the edge of a glass shower door yesterday, got seven stitches at a walk-in clinic, and he's still going to all his scheduled campaign events. I'm not sure I'd be able to do all the events and travelling he does, especially after a cut to the head like that, and I'm 30.
https://boingboing.net/2019/03/15/berni ... ad-on.html


Ol’ Bernie seems to be one of those "Why won’t you DIE!?" (you must read this with Raiden’s voice) old people that will literally outmaneuver death everytime.

My own grandmother is the same type of tough cookie, albeit it is finally catching up to her.

....
....

Bernie Antichrist conspiracies start acting up due to the mark on his head and head wound bible passages.


Welp, there goes my pick of someone who's just a socialist and not a possible antichrist candidate.

The world is fucked up.
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Dahon wrote:
... is this kinky?

Not until a rolled up magazine is used.

Kowani wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:....
To be fair that's probably what most AOC, Gillum, and Bernie supporters think it is.

Which....

Guys..

Americans think they're Socialist but are not.

AMERICA IS A LIE!

... I don’t know how to respond to this.

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Kowani
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Kowani » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:47 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Ol’ Bernie seems to be one of those "Why won’t you DIE!?" (you must read this with Raiden’s voice) old people that will literally outmaneuver death everytime.

My own grandmother is the same type of tough cookie, albeit it is finally catching up to her.

....
....

Bernie Antichrist conspiracies start acting up due to the mark on his head and head wound bible passages.


Welp, there goes my pick of someone who's just a socialist and not a possible antichrist candidate.

The world is fucked up.

Bernie’s like Satan-he’s fighting for the workers. So, guess you’re right.
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Eternal Lotharia
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Postby Eternal Lotharia » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:04 am

Kowani wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:....
....

Bernie Antichrist conspiracies start acting up due to the mark on his head and head wound bible passages.


Welp, there goes my pick of someone who's just a socialist and not a possible antichrist candidate.

The world is fucked up.

Bernie’s like Satan-he’s fighting for the workers. So, guess you’re right.


That's just ignorant, uneducated, and offensive.


But if it was a joke, good one. :p
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Petrasylvania wrote:
Dahon wrote:
... is this kinky?

Not until a rolled up magazine is used.

Kowani wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:....
To be fair that's probably what most AOC, Gillum, and Bernie supporters think it is.

Which....

Guys..

Americans think they're Socialist but are not.

AMERICA IS A LIE!

... I don’t know how to respond to this.

This nation's Policies partially represent my views, partially are experimental, same thing with how my nation is in RP.
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Mystic Warriors
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Mystic Warriors » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:59 am

2021 cant come fast enough. Will be so happy when Trump gets the bums rush.
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Free African Union
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Postby Free African Union » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:54 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Free African Union wrote:None of these people would fix the problems in society, though I will probably vote for either Sanders or Yang simply to remove Trump from office.


Yang is being backed and bolstered by alt-right elements, just sayin’...most likely to attempt to split the vote.

I'm aware but Yang isn't alt-right. He's bourgeois capitalist, but he is the only person taking the impacts of widespread automation seriously and how to help people. He's far from perfect; none of them are exactly the kind of person I'd want in the White House but Trump needs to go.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:50 am

Mystic Warriors wrote:2021 cant come fast enough. Will be so happy when Trump gets the bums rush.


I am hoping he pulls a Reagan-esque landslide.

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Bahktar
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Postby Bahktar » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:55 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Mystic Warriors wrote:2021 cant come fast enough. Will be so happy when Trump gets the bums rush.


I am hoping he pulls a Reagan-esque landslide.


I don't think it can even happen in any of the wildest dreams for anyone, ever.

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Postby Vassenor » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:09 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Mystic Warriors wrote:2021 cant come fast enough. Will be so happy when Trump gets the bums rush.


I am hoping he pulls a Reagan-esque landslide.


With how he's been polling? That's not going to happen outside of your fantasy world.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:16 am

Vassenor wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
I am hoping he pulls a Reagan-esque landslide.


With how he's been polling? That's not going to happen outside of your fantasy world.


Note I said I hope, not he will.

Still, he's better than any opposition declared so far.

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Postby Bahktar » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:19 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
With how he's been polling? That's not going to happen outside of your fantasy world.


Note I said I hope, not he will.

Still, he's better than any opposition declared so far.


How is he better than any opposition? What great things has he accomplished in his term so far?

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The Galactic Liberal Democracy
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:21 am

Bahktar wrote:How is he better than any opposition? What great things has he accomplished in his term so far?
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:21 am

Bahktar wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Note I said I hope, not he will.

Still, he's better than any opposition declared so far.


How is he better than any opposition? What great things has he accomplished in his term so far?


Raised taxes on the proletariat to fund tax breaks for the 1%? Buggered American manufacturing under the pretence of protecting it?
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:23 am

Corrian wrote:Buttigieg honestly made one of the most presidential statements after the event in New Zealand.


He also called it like it was when he said "white nationalism kills"
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:54 am

Vassenor wrote:
Bahktar wrote:
How is he better than any opposition? What great things has he accomplished in his term so far?


Raised taxes on the proletariat to fund tax breaks for the 1%? Buggered American manufacturing under the pretence of protecting it?


Most received tax breaks.

The economy is doing great, unemployment is at record lows, there are more jobs than people to fill them. Your (and the lefts in general) pig-headed refusal to acknowledge this due to your hate-boners doesn't make the facts go away.

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Postby Zurkerx » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:01 am

After exploring for god knows how long, Senator Gillibrand officially announces she's running. I honestly don't see her getting the nomination.
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:17 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Raised taxes on the proletariat to fund tax breaks for the 1%? Buggered American manufacturing under the pretence of protecting it?


Most received tax breaks.

The economy is doing great, unemployment is at record lows, there are more jobs than people to fill them. Your (and the lefts in general) pig-headed refusal to acknowledge this due to your hate-boners doesn't make the facts go away.


The extent to which the President can be considered directly responsible for the economy is hotly debatable at best.
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Postby CrvenaParsa » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:59 am

Is Tulsi Gabbard on the payroll of Modi? :rofl:

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Postby South Odreria » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:20 am

Zurkerx wrote:After exploring for god knows how long, Senator Gillibrand officially announces she's running. I honestly don't see her getting the nomination.


She's polling at zero percent...
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:21 am

Valrifell wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Most received tax breaks.

The economy is doing great, unemployment is at record lows, there are more jobs than people to fill them. Your (and the lefts in general) pig-headed refusal to acknowledge this due to your hate-boners doesn't make the facts go away.


The extent to which the President can be considered directly responsible for the economy is hotly debatable at best.


Plus Trump routinely demands personal credit for other people's work.
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Postby Major-Tom » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:32 am

South Odreria wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:After exploring for god knows how long, Senator Gillibrand officially announces she's running. I honestly don't see her getting the nomination.


She's polling at zero percent...


No endorsements either. Every elected official from NY has dodged the question of "Would you endorse her?" Probably because they're quite sure they won't.
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Postby Eternal Lotharia » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:38 am

Major-Tom wrote:
South Odreria wrote:
She's polling at zero percent...


No endorsements either. Every elected official from NY has dodged the question of "Would you endorse her?" Probably because they're quite sure they won't.

She's delusional, as are the pundits who think she'll win.

Nobody likes her, because of her flip-flopping and breaking her 2018 promise to serve a full 6 years as a Senator.
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Dahon wrote:
... is this kinky?

Not until a rolled up magazine is used.

Kowani wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:....
To be fair that's probably what most AOC, Gillum, and Bernie supporters think it is.

Which....

Guys..

Americans think they're Socialist but are not.

AMERICA IS A LIE!

... I don’t know how to respond to this.

This nation's Policies partially represent my views, partially are experimental, same thing with how my nation is in RP.
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Postby Telconi » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:52 am

Bahktar wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Note I said I hope, not he will.

Still, he's better than any opposition declared so far.


How is he better than any opposition? What great things has he accomplished in his term so far?


Interesting note about relative comparison, you dont need to be great to be better.
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Postby Telconi » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:53 am

Valrifell wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Most received tax breaks.

The economy is doing great, unemployment is at record lows, there are more jobs than people to fill them. Your (and the lefts in general) pig-headed refusal to acknowledge this due to your hate-boners doesn't make the facts go away.


The extent to which the President can be considered directly responsible for the economy is hotly debatable at best.


But the extent to which the general public will hold the President responsible isn't.
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:58 am

Telconi wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
The extent to which the President can be considered directly responsible for the economy is hotly debatable at best.


But the extent to which the general public will hold the President responsible isn't.


Well, of course, I won't deny that the economy is one of the things holding up the Trump presidency.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:01 pm

Free African Union wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Yang is being backed and bolstered by alt-right elements, just sayin’...most likely to attempt to split the vote.

I'm aware but Yang isn't alt-right. He's bourgeois capitalist, but he is the only person taking the impacts of widespread automation seriously and how to help people. He's far from perfect; none of them are exactly the kind of person I'd want in the White House but Trump needs to go.

Yang's ideas would bring about a hyperinflationary death spiral for the United States.
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