The Black Forrest wrote:
Hmmm? So if it's lessor; it's ok to kill?
That's how nature tends to operate.
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by Salus Maior » Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:35 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:
Hmmm? So if it's lessor; it's ok to kill?
by Novus America » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:55 pm
by Novus America » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:57 pm
by Ors Might » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:16 pm
Novus America wrote:Ors Might wrote:Job opportunities just grow on trees these days. Hey, since people can just find a better job, why even have protections for workers?
Actually in Japan they have a massive labor shortage.
The Japanese economy is desperate for workers, and whaling employs less than 1,000 people.
Finding them new jobs would not be difficult.
Japan has a 1.21 million person labor shortage which is skyrocketing.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Japan ... vey-finds2
by Novus America » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:45 pm
Ors Might wrote:Novus America wrote:
Actually in Japan they have a massive labor shortage.
The Japanese economy is desperate for workers, and whaling employs less than 1,000 people.
Finding them new jobs would not be difficult.
Japan has a 1.21 million person labor shortage which is skyrocketing.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Japan ... vey-finds2
I take it that the labor shortage has something to do with Japan relaxing it’s restrictions on immigration?
by Diopolis » Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:05 am
Purpelia wrote:Novus America wrote:Thing is this whaling does not even benefit humanity and most humans are against it.
The whale watching busines is larger, more profitable and more popular than killing them.
Humans actually like watching whales, so besides ecological reasons, preserving them is better than killing them.
This is more harmful than beneficial to humans as a whole.
That's actually the first intelligent argument I've heard on this thread. And one indeed worth considering. So what's the math on the issue? Like, are the Japanese going to kill so many whales that we can't send tour groups to reliably find and watch them? If so the best solution might be to find a middle ground of some sort. Like say a kill quota or a system where tour groups get to watch a whale and than it's killed to make the Japanese happy.
by Novus America » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:19 am
Diopolis wrote:Purpelia wrote:That's actually the first intelligent argument I've heard on this thread. And one indeed worth considering. So what's the math on the issue? Like, are the Japanese going to kill so many whales that we can't send tour groups to reliably find and watch them? If so the best solution might be to find a middle ground of some sort. Like say a kill quota or a system where tour groups get to watch a whale and than it's killed to make the Japanese happy.
Worth mentioning that Iceland and Norway maintain both whale-watching and commercial whaling sectors, somehow.
by Ors Might » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:24 am
Novus America wrote::oOrs Might wrote:I take it that the labor shortage has something to do with Japan relaxing it’s restrictions on immigration?
Yes.
Japan is bringing in large numbers of guest workers to try to make up for the shortage.
So certainly it could put the whalers to other, productive work.
Subsidizing them to kill whales Japanese do not even eat is not a very good use of labor or government funds (shortage of both are problems for Japan).
by The Alma Mater » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:58 am
Ors Might wrote:Novus America wrote::o
Yes.
Japan is bringing in large numbers of guest workers to try to make up for the shortage.
So certainly it could put the whalers to other, productive work.
Subsidizing them to kill whales Japanese do not even eat is not a very good use of labor or government funds (shortage of both are problems for Japan).
In that case, Japan is making a poor decision here. Overhunting whales could lead to some practical issues with the ecosystem and they wouldn’t be gaining enough to justify the risk. Seems more like they’re trying to culturally dick swing.
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