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Postby Greater Carolinas » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:10 pm

Here's a thread for "asking a Fascist" questions about Fascism.
The Coalition of Fascist Nations has noticed that a lot of NS users seem to completely misunderstand Fascism despite being vehemently anti-fascist for no discernible reason, so as an effort to overcome this confusion the Coalition has decided to host a thread for asking questions about Fascism in order to help our fellow users come to understand it further, rather than to just have a word that's vaguely associated with bullies and racism that you can throw at your political opponents whenever you feel like.

I'd like to begin with a list of common misconceptions:
Fascism's relation to racism and racial hierarchy
Fascism supports a social hierarchy however racial hierarchy is an invention of the NSDAP, which my coalition fellows do not support. There is not much data that can support the idea that different races belong higher on a social scale than others, although racist crackpots will claim things like IQ tests should determine a race's social value.
Fascism being a death cult focused on the state entirely
This is simply not the case, Fascism as a philosophy is about over-coming issues, and the idea that when brought together under one goal, mankind can achieve great things.
Fascism's relation to Imperial Japan, and the NSDAP of Germany
While these nations have been considered Fascist before, they are largely different from other Fascist movements and even stray from Fascist thought on some points, such as rejecting corporatism.
Fascism being a strict political doctrine that can only be practiced in the same way the NSDAP or PNF (Partito Nazionale Fascista) was
Fascism is what one would call "an organic ideology", no one Fascist movement is the same, and this can be seen when reading books published by Fascist thinkers such as The doctrine of Fascism, For my Legionaries, Fascism: 100 questions asked and answered, and other good literature on the topic. This all means that it has core doctrine however it recognizes the need for separate movements to have separate nation-building plans, economic doctrines, etc.
Fascism requires an "out group" or "minority" to pin blame on in order to unite the nation
This is simply not the case, and yet again another invention of the NSDAP, and arguably an invention of European social darwinism/history if one considers events such as the Dreyfus Affair.

Encouraged reading:
The Doctrine of Fascism by Giovanni Gentile
Fascism: 100 questions asked and answered by Oswald Mosley

Contemporary thinkers for a modern perspective on Fascism:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC_YBl ... A/featured

The coalition looks forward to answering your questions about Fascism
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Postby Rectification Government » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:13 pm

Which major American political party do you align with most? Democrats or Republicans. "Fascist" seems to be an insult lobbed by both at both.
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Postby New Legland » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:14 pm

Greater Carolinas wrote:Here's a thread for "asking a Fascist" questions about Fascism.
The Coalition of Fascist Nations has noticed that a lot of NS users seem to completely misunderstand Fascism despite being vehemently anti-fascist for no discernible reason, so as an effort to overcome this confusion the Coalition has decided to host a thread for asking questions about Fascism in order to help our fellow users come to understand it further, rather than to just have a word that's vaguely associated with bullies and racism that you can throw at your political opponents whenever you feel like.

I'd like to begin with a list of common misconceptions:
Fascism's relation to racism and racial hierarchy
Fascism supports a social hierarchy however racial hierarchy is an invention of the NSDAP, which my coalition fellows do not support. There is not much data that can support the idea that different races belong higher on a social scale than others, although racist crackpots will claim things like IQ tests should determine a race's social value.
Fascism being a death cult focused on the state entirely
This is simply not the case, Fascism as a philosophy is about over-coming issues, and the idea that when brought together under one goal, mankind can achieve great things.
Fascism's relation to Imperial Japan, and the NSDAP of Germany
While these nations have been considered Fascist before, they are largely different from other Fascist movements and even stray from Fascist thought on some points, such as rejecting corporatism.
Fascism being a strict political doctrine that can only be practiced in the same way the NSDAP or PNF (Partito Nazionale Fascista) was
Fascism is what one would call "an organic ideology", no one Fascist movement is the same, and this can be seen when reading books published by Fascist thinkers such as The doctrine of Fascism, For my Legionaries, Fascism: 100 questions asked and answered, and other good literature on the topic. This all means that it has core doctrine however it recognizes the need for separate movements to have separate nation-building plans, economic doctrines, etc.
Fascism requires an "out group" or "minority" to pin blame on in order to unite the nation
This is simply not the case, and yet again another invention of the NSDAP, and arguably an invention of European social darwinism/history if one considers events such as the Dreyfus Affair.

Encouraged reading:
The Doctrine of Fascism by Giovanni Gentile
Fascism: 100 questions asked and answered by Oswald Mosley

Contemporary thinkers for a modern perspective on Fascism:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC_YBl ... A/featured

The coalition looks forward to answering your questions about Fascism

my question is

why

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Postby The Deutsche Military Junta » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:15 pm

i'd like to add on to this, Fascism and National Socialism are also two different Ideologies, this is what National Socialism is.
National Socialism (Nazism) is based on nature. The belief that Man is a part of the natural world and that he is in no way separate from it. The belief that society should be structured in accordance with the laws of Nature. Racial Idealism is based on the love of your own people. Placing the interests of the racial community to which you belong ahead of your own personal desires.National Socialism believes that all men are NOT created equal. Just as every individual has his own personal strengths and weaknesses, so each race certain qualities that make it different from other races. National Socialism believes in the improvement of your people, essentially it's goal is to see the next Generation of children will be better off then the previous one and so on. National Socialism believes in putting the people before yourself. But there is a considerable difference in the socialism of Hitler and that of Marxist doctrine. Hitler saw nationalism as a patriotic motive to place the good of one's country before personal ambition. The National Socialists in Germany adopted the Swastika, it is one of the most ancient symbols in the world. The Swastika represents the sun, the giver of all life. Even the Jews had their own Swastika. Today the Swastika is known as a symbol of hate, which is a lie. National Socialism does not believe in class division. They despise the idea of Poor vs Rich (Communism) and Rich vs Poor (Capitalism). Many National Socialists believe that all class division should be abandoned and all people should unite behind one race to make the Country better.
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Postby Athara Magarat » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:15 pm

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Postby Liriena » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:16 pm

As a fascist, what are your thoughts on free speech and political freedoms?
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:16 pm

Dormill and Stiura wrote:

This entire thing will be ridden with trolling.
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Postby Greater Carolinas » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:17 pm

Rectification Government wrote:Which major American political party do you align with most? Democrats or Republicans. "Fascist" seems to be an insult lobbed by both at both.

This is a difficult question to ask, but I personally do not feel particularly aligned with either party. Republicans are obsessed with individualism, and using our allies as means to an end, as well as encouraging less spending for education and social welfare, while the democrats also have their issues. Fascism is a "third position" in my opinion, an American Fascist party would be very different from the two main parties, however again this is a hard question to answer because there's no set doctrine for American Fascism, but there are american Fascist parties, if you're interested in looking at their ideas. The american black shirt party comes to mind, although I can't say I know enough about them to endorse them.

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Postby The Deutsche Military Junta » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:17 pm

Liriena wrote:As a fascist, what are your thoughts on free speech and political freedoms?

Depends
We silence enemies of the country such as Marxists and Anarchists, whilst we are more keen to give Conservatives and more right wing ideologies their place to say stuff but to an extent.
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Postby Vionna-Frankenlisch » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:18 pm

What is your personal opinion, as a self-branded fascist, on the British Union of Fascists and Oswald Mosley? I've heard it said that they were not 'true' fascists but I'd be interested to hear your opinions.
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Postby The Deutsche Military Junta » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:18 pm

also with Fascism there are many different types, you have Italian Fascism, British Fascism, American Fascism.
Fascism is simply what the leader wants it, same with National Socialism.
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Postby Greater Carolinas » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:19 pm

New Legland wrote:
Greater Carolinas wrote:Here's a thread for "asking a Fascist" questions about Fascism.
The Coalition of Fascist Nations has noticed that a lot of NS users seem to completely misunderstand Fascism despite being vehemently anti-fascist for no discernible reason, so as an effort to overcome this confusion the Coalition has decided to host a thread for asking questions about Fascism in order to help our fellow users come to understand it further, rather than to just have a word that's vaguely associated with bullies and racism that you can throw at your political opponents whenever you feel like.

I'd like to begin with a list of common misconceptions:
Fascism's relation to racism and racial hierarchy
Fascism supports a social hierarchy however racial hierarchy is an invention of the NSDAP, which my coalition fellows do not support. There is not much data that can support the idea that different races belong higher on a social scale than others, although racist crackpots will claim things like IQ tests should determine a race's social value.
Fascism being a death cult focused on the state entirely
This is simply not the case, Fascism as a philosophy is about over-coming issues, and the idea that when brought together under one goal, mankind can achieve great things.
Fascism's relation to Imperial Japan, and the NSDAP of Germany
While these nations have been considered Fascist before, they are largely different from other Fascist movements and even stray from Fascist thought on some points, such as rejecting corporatism.
Fascism being a strict political doctrine that can only be practiced in the same way the NSDAP or PNF (Partito Nazionale Fascista) was
Fascism is what one would call "an organic ideology", no one Fascist movement is the same, and this can be seen when reading books published by Fascist thinkers such as The doctrine of Fascism, For my Legionaries, Fascism: 100 questions asked and answered, and other good literature on the topic. This all means that it has core doctrine however it recognizes the need for separate movements to have separate nation-building plans, economic doctrines, etc.
Fascism requires an "out group" or "minority" to pin blame on in order to unite the nation
This is simply not the case, and yet again another invention of the NSDAP, and arguably an invention of European social darwinism/history if one considers events such as the Dreyfus Affair.

Encouraged reading:
The Doctrine of Fascism by Giovanni Gentile
Fascism: 100 questions asked and answered by Oswald Mosley

Contemporary thinkers for a modern perspective on Fascism:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC_YBl ... A/featured

The coalition looks forward to answering your questions about Fascism

my question is

why


It is rather annoying to see people misunderstand what fascism is and also use it as the ultimate boogeyman. I think fascism is a good government system that could have a place in modern politics.
Sorry for the short answer but there's already so many people asking questions! I am glad I made this thread, I hope it it is not trolled by Antifa

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Postby The Deutsche Military Junta » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:19 pm

Vionna-Frankenlisch wrote:What is your personal opinion, as a self-branded fascist, on the British Union of Fascists and Oswald Mosley? I've heard it said that they were not 'true' fascists but I'd be interested to hear your opinions.

The BUF was a Party that were Fascists but unlike a few other ones Mosley did not like the Jews, but for the reason that they and the Communists would block their rallies.
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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:19 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Dormill and Stiura wrote:

This entire thing will be ridden with trolling.

That's exactly what I'm waiting for.
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:20 pm

I’m going to ask something stupid.

In your opinion, was Hitler a fascist? Do you idolize him? I he important to your movement?
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Postby The Winter Sun » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:20 pm

What is your opinion of the Jewish holocaust. Does fascism support the acts of Adolf Hitler

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Postby The Deutsche Military Junta » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:21 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:I’m goin* to ask something stupid.

In your opinion, was Hitler a fascist? Do you idolize him? I he important to your movement?

No he was a Natsoc.
Fascists that are idoloized are Mosley, Mussolini, Dudley and other Fascists, while natsocs idolize well natsocs
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Postby The Deutsche Military Junta » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:21 pm

The Winter Sun wrote:What is your opinion of the Jewish holocaust. Does fascism support the acts of Adolf Hitler

depends on the person.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:21 pm

Why do you put so much faith in an autocrat? Throughout history there are plenty of examples of tyrants abusing such power, such as Caligula, Nero etc.

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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:22 pm

The Deutsche Military Junta wrote:
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:I’m goin* to ask something stupid.

In your opinion, was Hitler a fascist? Do you idolize him? I he important to your movement?

No he was a Natsoc.
Fascists that are idoloized are Mosley, Mussolini, Dudley and other Fascists, while natsocs idolize well natsocs

Mussolini and Hitler totally didn’t agree with each other.
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The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC

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Postby Greater Carolinas » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:23 pm

Liriena wrote:As a fascist, what are your thoughts on free speech and political freedoms?

This is also a difficult question and I can't answer for all the other fascists, but personally I think free speech is good, and political freedoms to an extent. I'm more of an authoritarian democracy guy myself if it were ever to be practiced in real life, ideally with a one party system that instead has different officials running for the same spot, however this might have issues with corruption in the modern world, but it is always difficult to deal with corruption in most government forms.

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Postby The Deutsche Military Junta » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:23 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Why do you put so much faith in an autocrat? Throughout history there are plenty of examples of tyrants abusing such power, such as Caligula, Nero etc.

the truth is that with power comes responsibility, it is in nature for people to act out badly when they have a lot of power, but they can also act out goodly, its a 50/50 thing.
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Postby The Winter Sun » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:23 pm

The Deutsche Military Junta wrote:
The Winter Sun wrote:What is your opinion of the Jewish holocaust. Does fascism support the acts of Adolf Hitler

depends on the person.

Explain further if you will.

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Postby The Deutsche Military Junta » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:24 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
The Deutsche Military Junta wrote:No he was a Natsoc.
Fascists that are idoloized are Mosley, Mussolini, Dudley and other Fascists, while natsocs idolize well natsocs

Mussolini and Hitler totally didn’t agree with each other.

Hitler viewed Italians as a weak and Inferior race, Mussolini and Hitler actually really hated each other. they just worked together to secure land and get their place in the sun. plus Italy wanted to try to recreate the Roman Empire
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