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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:55 pm


Racists deny their actions have consequences. His base eats his despicable racist comments up and believes everything his says.

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Postby Gormwood » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:02 pm

San Lumen wrote:

Racists deny their actions have consequences. His base eats his despicable racist comments up and believes everything his says.

And eventually, one of the base will be radicalized enough to try to kill Rep. Omar. Pizzagate shows it's very possible.
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Postby Duhon » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:07 pm



Once you've shot a man on Fifth Avenue, you can only go forward -- forward into the yawning abyss.

You can almost define Trump by the number of times he has excused himself from blame. Almost, for he's even quicker at bashing every opponent he sees, and lightning-fast at taking the credit for everything that could be plausibly linked to him.

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Postby Duhon » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:09 pm

Gormwood wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Racists deny their actions have consequences. His base eats his despicable racist comments up and believes everything his says.

And eventually, one of the base will be radicalized enough to try to kill Rep. Omar. Pizzagate shows it's very possible.


And the aftermaths of Charlottesville, Khashoggi's dismemberment, and Cesar Sayoc show how quickly he would deflect any sense of blame or shame from himself, then fill the void with his world-ending dick.

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Postby Bombadil » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:45 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:Being a giant asshole is really just the icing on the cake when it comes to Trump. His tweets might not mean much in terms of policy, but they show that he has no real understanding of how these issues work and nearly no talent for diplomacy, both of which are bad traits for a president.


Odd then, that he accomplished what nobody else seemed to be able to, through diplomacy. The Korean war might actually end now.


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Postby Senkaku » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:21 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:Being a giant asshole is really just the icing on the cake when it comes to Trump. His tweets might not mean much in terms of policy, but they show that he has no real understanding of how these issues work and nearly no talent for diplomacy, both of which are bad traits for a president.


Odd then, that he accomplished what nobody else seemed to be able to, through diplomacy. The Korean war might actually end now.

The man himself walked away from Hanoi lol (which is just abt the only thing I'd give him props for diplomatically), and the Norks are restarting reactor and missile test sites lol
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:12 pm

Duhon wrote:
Gormwood wrote:And eventually, one of the base will be radicalized enough to try to kill Rep. Omar. Pizzagate shows it's very possible.


And the aftermaths of Charlottesville, Khashoggi's dismemberment, and Cesar Sayoc show how quickly he would deflect any sense of blame or shame from himself, then fill the void with his world-ending dick.

Even if the attacker/murderer expliciy mentions being inspired/motivated by Trump's verbal attacks on Rep. Omar.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:53 pm

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Thuzbekistan wrote:That's just objectively untrue. Most Americans saw a decrease in their tax burdens by at least 100 dollars

I'd like a source on this because all the information I've found shows that, while the tax rate did go down when it's averaged out among all Americans, the tax breaks were focused on the wealthy, and the middle and lower classes saw either no change or higher taxes.

http://fortune.com/2019/04/15/trump-tax-day-2019-cut/


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html
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Postby Seangoli » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:04 pm

Senkaku wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Odd then, that he accomplished what nobody else seemed to be able to, through diplomacy. The Korean war might actually end now.

The man himself walked away from Hanoi lol (which is just abt the only thing I'd give him props for diplomatically), and the Norks are restarting reactor and missile test sites lol



Hey now, he said some really nice words to Kim Jong Un, and Kim Jong Un sent him a letter fellating him. It's not his fault that this amounted jack shit happening in real world terms. He obviously brokered a lasting peace, if only a hypothetical lasting peace.

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Postby Gormwood » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:13 pm

Seangoli wrote:
Senkaku wrote:The man himself walked away from Hanoi lol (which is just abt the only thing I'd give him props for diplomatically), and the Norks are restarting reactor and missile test sites lol



Hey now, he said some really nice words to Kim Jong Un, and Kim Jong Un sent him a letter fellating him. It's not his fault that this amounted jack shit happening in real world terms. He obviously brokered a lasting peace, if only a hypothetical lasting peace.

Remember those old Sprite commercials about obeying your thirst? Trump is the exact opposite. To him, Image is Everything.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:37 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:Being a giant asshole is really just the icing on the cake when it comes to Trump. His tweets might not mean much in terms of policy, but they show that he has no real understanding of how these issues work and nearly no talent for diplomacy, both of which are bad traits for a president.


Odd then, that he accomplished what nobody else seemed to be able to, through diplomacy. The Korean war might actually end now.


Hmmm. Not really. Kim is way smarter then donnie. His street cred was increased by meeting donnie.

Much as I would like to see the war officially over (family fought there); it's not going to happen on donnies watch.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:50 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Odd then, that he accomplished what nobody else seemed to be able to, through diplomacy. The Korean war might actually end now.


Hmmm. Not really. Kim is way smarter then donnie. His street cred was increased by meeting donnie.

Much as I would like to see the war officially over (family fought there); it's not going to happen on donnies watch.

Kim is one of the smarter dictators, methinks. He’s leagues ahead of Mobutu.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:54 pm

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Thuzbekistan wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:I'd like a source on this because all the information I've found shows that, while the tax rate did go down when it's averaged out among all Americans, the tax breaks were focused on the wealthy, and the middle and lower classes saw either no change or higher taxes.

http://fortune.com/2019/04/15/trump-tax-day-2019-cut/


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html


https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/04/trump-tax-bill-truckers-truck-drivers-deduction/
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:15 am

Trump vetoes bill to end US support for the Saudi led Yemen War, because he is Saudi's bitch.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47958014

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Postby Gormwood » Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:39 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Trump vetoes bill to end US support for the Saudi led Yemen War, because he is Saudi's bitch.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47958014

He'll bend over for any strongman who says nice things about him and/or gives lots of money.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:55 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Trump vetoes bill to end US support for the Saudi led Yemen War, because he is Saudi's bitch.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47958014


So when do we hear about the groundbreaking ceremony for Trump Tower Riyadh?
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Postby Galloism » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:11 am


Shit people, fire your tax guy.

I sent my truckers back to renegotiate with their companies and get those companies to set up an accountable plan with nontaxable per diem reimbursement. One changed jobs to a company that had an accountable plan.

A tax guy isn’t just there to calculate the past, but also reshape the future.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:41 am

Thuzbekistan wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And how the Cut Cut Cut Act has caused people's paychecks to go down, rather than up as he promised they would.

That's just objectively untrue. Most Americans saw a decrease in their tax burdens by at least 100 dollars


Actually it's "fuzzy" math. Reducing the withholding is not a tax deduction. I paid noticeably more this year.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:45 am

Galloism wrote:

Shit people, fire your tax guy.

I sent my truckers back to renegotiate with their companies and get those companies to set up an accountable plan with nontaxable per diem reimbursement. One changed jobs to a company that had an accountable plan.

A tax guy isn’t just there to calculate the past, but also reshape the future.


Assumption being he didn't try. Family members are members of the cult of donnie. We tried to tell them the tax cuts wouldn't do what they expected. They didn't believe us and they are stunned at how little they got back or had to pay......
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Postby Galloism » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:47 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Galloism wrote:Shit people, fire your tax guy.

I sent my truckers back to renegotiate with their companies and get those companies to set up an accountable plan with nontaxable per diem reimbursement. One changed jobs to a company that had an accountable plan.

A tax guy isn’t just there to calculate the past, but also reshape the future.


Assumption being he didn't try. Family members are members of the cult of donnie. We tried to tell them the tax cuts wouldn't do what they expected. They didn't believe us and they are stunned at how little they got back or had to pay......

A lot of that is about your approach.

I approach it as "if nothing changes about your situation, you're going to get screwed. However, we can change your situation slightly, and you'll wind off even better under the new code than you were under the old status quo."
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:55 am

Galloism wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Assumption being he didn't try. Family members are members of the cult of donnie. We tried to tell them the tax cuts wouldn't do what they expected. They didn't believe us and they are stunned at how little they got back or had to pay......

A lot of that is about your approach.

I approach it as "if nothing changes about your situation, you're going to get screwed. However, we can change your situation slightly, and you'll wind off even better under the new code than you were under the old status quo."


It also helps to have their finance info and be able to show projections. We didn't have that. What is surprising is they complain but still think donnie is maga.......
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Postby Galloism » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:57 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Galloism wrote:A lot of that is about your approach.

I approach it as "if nothing changes about your situation, you're going to get screwed. However, we can change your situation slightly, and you'll wind off even better under the new code than you were under the old status quo."


It also helps to have their finance info and be able to show projections. We didn't have that. What is surprising is they complain but still think donnie is maga.......

Well, that's true. I very specifically have that info for clients. They give it to me freely because they know I can execute magic on it and make money appear, or at least make less money disappear.

But in the article I linked, it was tax pros grousing about how their truck driver clients got screwed by the new tax law. I'm scoffing a bit because that's kind of their fault - they didn't look to the future when the law was passed. They're just grousing about things that they watched happen and did nothing about, saying how horrible it is for their clients. They knew this was going to happen, or should have known, and did nothing.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:06 am

Galloism wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
It also helps to have their finance info and be able to show projections. We didn't have that. What is surprising is they complain but still think donnie is maga.......

Well, that's true. I very specifically have that info for clients. They give it to me freely because they know I can execute magic on it and make money appear, or at least make less money disappear.

But in the article I linked, it was tax pros grousing about how their truck driver clients got screwed by the new tax law. I'm scoffing a bit because that's kind of their fault - they didn't look to the future when the law was passed. They're just grousing about things that they watched happen and did nothing about, saying how horrible it is for their clients. They knew this was going to happen, or should have known, and did nothing.


Indeed. The probably drank the koolaid and thought everything was going to be great. I am sorry when it comes to household income; I never trust a politician. Least of all Republicans (got screwed by St. Reagan).

People seem to have stopped checking on things like this. Few seem to realize the future loss of mortgage deduction has begun.
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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:04 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Trump vetoes bill to end US support for the Saudi led Yemen War, because he is Saudi's bitch.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47958014


Who wants to bet his business tax returns will show investment in Saudi Arabia, that's if we ever see them.
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Postby Maineiacs » Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:10 am

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An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Trump vetoes bill to end US support for the Saudi led Yemen War, because he is Saudi's bitch.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47958014


Who wants to bet his business tax returns will show investment in Saudi Arabia, that's if we ever see them.



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