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New Zealand To Hold Cannabis Referendum At 2020 Election

Postby Costa Fierro » Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:23 pm

The Government will hold a referendum on personal cannabis use at the 2020 general election - and it will be binding.

Justice Minister Andrew Little announced Cabinet had made the decision on Monday on his way into caucus on Tuesday morning.

"It will be held at the 2020 general election. The agreement is that it will be binding. There is a bit of detail to still to work through," Little said.

National Leader Simon Bridges suggested that the Government was attempting to distract from the general election itself, but said he didn't have a problem with the referendum being binding.

"I'm pretty cynical that you've got a Government here that wants to distract from the core issues of a general election," Bridges said.

He suspected two other discussed referendums would also be included on euthanasia and electoral reform, although Little has talked down those prospects.

Bridges would be voting against cannabis legalisation and said he hadn't smoked marijuana at any point in his life.

Little said he would not be using a mooted "citizens assembly" for policy development, something the Green Party had pushed for.


Sauce.

So as the title says, New Zealand will be holding a referendum on legalising cannabis for personal use at the 2020 election, with medicinal marijuana passing another vote in Parliament not that long ago. What's important about this is that this referendum will be binding, that means that unlike many referendums in the past, the government will be forced to act on the outcome of this one. In addition, voters will get to decide the future of the political system with yet another referendum on MMP, and another significant referendum on legalising euthanasia.

Personally while I am happy that the referendum is binding, I do have some reservations as to its timing. Firstly, the three referenda together on their own was going to be difficult to communicate and educate effectively given the significance of the issues being voted on, let alone during a national election where policy and scandal are already bombarding voters. Secondly, those who do vote in elections are almost always going to be the people who are against this kind of thing, as the youth vote is as elusive here as it is elsewhere.

Nevertheless this is a great step for New Zealand and I hope to hell when it does happen, most of us will make the right choice. So, what say you NSG?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:40 pm

Get fucking weeded broskis
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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:02 pm

I’m willing to bet that they vote for legalization, but perhaps I’ll be proved incorrect. Whatever the case, always positive to see countries working towards legalizing the drug.

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Postby Luziyca » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:31 pm

Congratulations to New Zealand: let's hope that they vote to legalize it. :)
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:54 pm

Good, hopefully it passes.

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Postby Bombadil » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:57 pm

I've always felt that making drugs legal takes half the fun out of it..
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:00 pm

Bombadil wrote:I've always felt that making drugs legal takes half the fun out of it..

In many places, making drugs legal takes half the dying out of it.

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Postby Bombadil » Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:03 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Bombadil wrote:I've always felt that making drugs legal takes half the fun out of it..

In many places, making drugs legal takes half the dying out of it.


Sure I accept all the benefits legality brings, especially in reducing crime and crime rings - buying illegal drugs is not just harmless fun..
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:05 pm

420 blaze it.

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Postby Bombadil » Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:06 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:420 blaze it.


Quite honestly Kiwis seem naturally stoned as it is..
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:06 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:420 blaze it.


That meme was so outdated that even Shakespeare laughed at how archaic it was.

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Postby Teachian » Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:11 pm

Not going to lie, I'm more interested in if they have kiwi vapes than anything.
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Postby Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar » Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:13 pm

I... I am by no stretch in favour of legalizing weed.

It is literally one of the worst, and most addictive drugs you can take...
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Postby Bombadil » Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:14 pm

Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar wrote:I... I am by no stretch in favour of legalizing weed.

It is literally one of the worst, and most addictive drugs you can take...


Literally.. I do not think that word means what you think it means.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:16 pm

Teachian wrote:Not going to lie, I'm more interested in if they have kiwi vapes than anything.


Oddly enough, the government is looking at banning vaping here.
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Postby Radiatia » Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:28 pm

In terms of the actual referendum (or "reeferendum"), it's great news and yes New Zealand will vote to legalise it, there's no question about it. It'll pass by at least 60%, probably higher.

The timing is interesting though and it does throw a spanner in the works of the next election. I mean, I myself was leaning towards sitting the next election out (as I'm totally disillusioned with all political parties) and maybe leaving the country, but I'd probably fly to NZ just to vote in the reeferendum.

The other issue is that it depends on who wins the next election, and Simon Bridges might be correct in that this will distract or influence voters away from other issues.

Yes, it's "binding" but in reality if National win it'll be chucked out, as they seem to hate referendums and are hell-bent on ignoring them usually. And that knowledge could even persuade me to vote for the current government - despite the fact that on pretty much every other issue, I oppose them.

Of course, I don't think National have a hope in hell of winning the next election (especially not with their, ahem, current leader), but where I may or may not have been slightly leaning toward them, their stance on this referendum as with their stance on most referendums could well see me decide not to give them any of my votes. And I suspect other soft-right voters might have the same thought process.
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Postby Radiatia » Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:30 pm

Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar wrote:I... I am by no stretch in favour of legalizing weed.

It is literally one of the worst, and most addictive drugs you can take...


It's not addictive at all.

There are some individuals who may end up addicted to it because they have addictive personalities - the same sort of people who might end up addicted to gambling or video games, but chemically it is not an addictive substance the way that drugs like cocaine, heroin or methamphetamine are.

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Postby Shofercia » Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:48 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
The Government will hold a referendum on personal cannabis use at the 2020 general election - and it will be binding.

Justice Minister Andrew Little announced Cabinet had made the decision on Monday on his way into caucus on Tuesday morning.

"It will be held at the 2020 general election. The agreement is that it will be binding. There is a bit of detail to still to work through," Little said.

National Leader Simon Bridges suggested that the Government was attempting to distract from the general election itself, but said he didn't have a problem with the referendum being binding.

"I'm pretty cynical that you've got a Government here that wants to distract from the core issues of a general election," Bridges said.

He suspected two other discussed referendums would also be included on euthanasia and electoral reform, although Little has talked down those prospects.

Bridges would be voting against cannabis legalisation and said he hadn't smoked marijuana at any point in his life.

Little said he would not be using a mooted "citizens assembly" for policy development, something the Green Party had pushed for.


Sauce.

So as the title says, New Zealand will be holding a referendum on legalising cannabis for personal use at the 2020 election, with medicinal marijuana passing another vote in Parliament not that long ago. What's important about this is that this referendum will be binding, that means that unlike many referendums in the past, the government will be forced to act on the outcome of this one. In addition, voters will get to decide the future of the political system with yet another referendum on MMP, and another significant referendum on legalising euthanasia.

Personally while I am happy that the referendum is binding, I do have some reservations as to its timing. Firstly, the three referenda together on their own was going to be difficult to communicate and educate effectively given the significance of the issues being voted on, let alone during a national election where policy and scandal are already bombarding voters. Secondly, those who do vote in elections are almost always going to be the people who are against this kind of thing, as the youth vote is as elusive here as it is elsewhere.

Nevertheless this is a great step for New Zealand and I hope to hell when it does happen, most of us will make the right choice. So, what say you NSG?


You're going to hold the Referendum on April 20th, right? :P
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The domino effect is continuing.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:15 am

The New California Republic wrote:The domino effect is continuing.

Second hand legalisation.
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Postby -Ocelot- » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:29 am

Are nations that ban cannabis going to be a minority in the future?

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:53 am

-Ocelot- wrote:Are nations that ban cannabis going to be a minority in the future?

None can hold back the tide of marijuanas.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:55 am

Ifreann wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:Are nations that ban cannabis going to be a minority in the future?

None can hold back the tide of marijuanas.


The high tide of marijuana.

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:03 am

Valrifell wrote:
Ifreann wrote:None can hold back the tide of marijuanas.


The high tide of marijuana.

Come on, Iffy, it was right there. I expect better from you.

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