7 Yr Old Migrant Girl Dies At Border

[Badassistanian]

Relevant article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... 9a8d467975

New artcle with updated info: https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/14/us/guate ... index.html

TLDR - A migrant girl from Hondorus was detained by US Border Patrol along with her father after illegally crossing the border on December 6th. Eight hours later the girl began to have seizures. Border patrol claims that the girl had not eaten or had water for at least several days resulting in dehydration. The girl fell into cardiac arrest and was transported to Providence Children's Hospital where she later died. (Edit after reread of article, she was transported to the hospital before going into cardiac arrest)

So this whole event leads me to a question that I have been mulling over for months now which is should it be considered child abuse to bring a child of such young age on a journey that poses such risks as dehydration and death? or is it a necessary evil that these families must deal with in order to achieve a quote on quote better life? And further more do you think Border Control could have prevented the girls death?

Personally, I cant make up my mind on this question as I believe it shows a lack of care to lead children into these situations but then again these parents are often attempting this business for the betterment of their child.

[Shofercia]

How do you not give water to a child? That's just wrong.

Or food for that matter.

[Scomagia]

It's absolutely child abuse to force march a child through the desert with no food or water. In violation of a nation's laws, no less.

[Badassistanian]

Edit - somehow forgot to add the link, its there now and here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... 9a8d467975

[Saiwania]

This is wonderful in my view, because this is the perfect pretext to imprison those parents and whenever the opportunity arises, they can be permanently banned from the US (on pain of death) after being deported.

Edit: This post has been determined to break the rules and hence, it is for the best to not quote or respond to this. This has been sufficiently addressed for the time being. Thank you.

[Fartsniffage]

Clearly the UN needs to set up camps on the US boarder since the US seems incapable of looking after the people there.

[Badassistanian]

Clearly the UN needs to set up camps on the US boarder since the US seems incapable of looking after the people there.

Its important to note that the child was already dehydrated upon arrival.... the rather quick onset of the seizures and cardiac arrest could suggest that the BP couldnt have done much of anything to save the child... the issue here is whether or not the parents should be held responsible for neglect of their child.

[Scomagia]

This is wonderful in my view, because this is the perfect pretext to imprison those parents and whenever the opportunity arises, they can be permanently banned from the US (on pain of death) after being deported.

Wow. A dead child is wonderful?

Fucking pathetic.

[Fartsniffage]

Clearly the UN needs to set up camps on the US boarder since the US seems incapable of looking after the people there.

Its important to note that the child was already dehydrated upon arrival.... the rather quick onset of the seizures and cardiac arrest could suggest that the BP couldnt have done much of anything to save the child... the issue here is whether or not the parents should be held responsible for neglect of their child.

The migrant train has been at the boarder for a while.

[Badassistanian]

This is wonderful in my view, because this is the perfect pretext to imprison those parents and whenever the opportunity arises, they can be permanently banned from the US (on pain of death) after being deported.

Its not wonderful, the parents should be imprisoned but its wrong to make something like the death of a child seem good if it means "one less illegal"

[The Althing Confederacy]

Who brought this child to a border that didn't want to accept the parent that knows this?
Who is the one responsible?
The irresponsible "parent"

[Badassistanian]

Its important to note that the child was already dehydrated upon arrival.... the rather quick onset of the seizures and cardiac arrest could suggest that the BP couldnt have done much of anything to save the child... the issue here is whether or not the parents should be held responsible for neglect of their child.

The migrant train has been at the boarder for a while.

And not within jurisdiction of The United States, lmao

[Duhon]

Poor girl had a heat stroke, it seems. Still, isn't this condemnation way too quick? For one thing, we don't know what forced them to walk to the border without adequate supplies.

[Luminesa]

This is wonderful in my view, because this is the perfect pretext to imprison those parents and whenever the opportunity arises, they can be permanently banned from the US (on pain of death) after being deported.

Cheering for the death of an innocent child? Forgot getting coal in your stocking this Christmas, Santa is probably just going to drop you a bag of dead ringworms or something. Way to offer a productive and compassionate solution to how to help immigrants. NOT.

[Fartsniffage]

The migrant train has been at the boarder for a while.

And not within jurisdiction of The United States, lmao

Which is why I said that the UN should be setting up camps since the richest nation on the planet seems unable to deal with children just over their boarder dying from easily treatable conditions.

[Kowani]

This is wonderful in my view, because this is the perfect pretext to imprison those parents and whenever the opportunity arises, they can be permanently banned from the US (on pain of death) after being deported.

You know, just once I would like to not come on NSG and see an absolutely terrible opinion being held up. Just once.

[Duhon]

This is wonderful in my view, because this is the perfect pretext to imprison those parents and whenever the opportunity arises, they can be permanently banned from the US (on pain of death) after being deported.

Cheering for the death of an innocent child? Forgot getting coal in your stocking this Christmas, Santa is probably just going to drop you a bag of dead ringworms or something. Way to offer a productive and compassionate solution to how to help immigrants. NOT.

It's Sai. You know, 99% of the time he says something bigoted.

[The South Falls]

This is wonderful in my view, because this is the perfect pretext to imprison those parents and whenever the opportunity arises, they can be permanently banned from the US (on pain of death) after being deported.

"It's great if a child dies because muh deportation!"

[Luminesa]

Relevant article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... 9a8d467975

TLDR - A migrant girl from Hondorus was detained by US Border Patrol along with her father after illegally crossing the border on December 6th. Eight hours later the girl began to have seizures. Border patrol claims that the girl had not eaten or had water for at least several days resulting in dehydration. The girl fell into cardiac arrest and was transported to Providence Children's Hospital where she later died.

So this whole event leads me to a question that I have been mulling over for months now which is should it be considered child abuse to bring a child of such young age on a journey that poses such risks as dehydration and death? or is it a necessary evil that these families must deal with in order to achieve a quote on quote better life? And further more do you think Border Control could have prevented the girls death?

Personally, I cant make up my mind on this question as I believe it shows a lack of care to lead children into these situations but then again these parents are often attempting this business for the betterment of their child.

The journey of hundreds of miles is often done by people with probably little clothes or food, it's probably not like this girl had a lot of food in her bag to snack on, on the way. At the same time, however, the fact that she was given nothing to eat or drink still falls on someone. Either the parents, border patrol, or both. There's no easy answer, this is truly tragic. And it happens quite a lot. There's a reason why CBS interviewed a man who practically goes out to his backyard to give the immigrants who died traveling here a humane burial. The traveling is brutal, and many people do it knowing they may not survive the trip. It's really a testament to how badly many of these people want to get out of Mexico and Central America.

[Reikoku]

And further more do you think Border Control could have prevented the girls death?

They had eight hours to provide her with food and water. Perhaps it's a bit much to expect there to be intelligent adults in this day and age, but it should be easy to tell if a child is suffering from dehydration. This is just more of the utter human rights nightmares that happened with the family separation policy, it's a product of the current administration's view that illegal aliens are somehow less than human.

This is wonderful in my view, because this is the perfect pretext to imprison those parents and whenever the opportunity arises, they can be permanently banned from the US (on pain of death) after being deported.

[Greater Carolinas]

This is wonderful in my view, because this is the perfect pretext to imprison those parents and whenever the opportunity arises, they can be permanently banned from the US (on pain of death) after being deported.

I lol'd

[Badassistanian]

And not within jurisdiction of The United States, lmao

Which is why I said that the UN should be setting up camps since the richest nation on the planet seems unable to deal with children just over their boarder dying from easily treatable conditions.

Believe it or not, agents of The United States cannot cross international borders just as migrants cant.... as soon as they illegally enter the border, they are within our jurisdiction in which we typically care for them as they are processed which includes food and water.... You are making The United States out to be at fault for respecting international borders

[Badassistanian]

And further more do you think Border Control could have prevented the girls death?

They had eight hours to provide her with food and water. Perhaps it's a bit much to expect there to be intelligent adults in this day and age, but it should be easy to tell if a child is suffering from dehydration. This is just more of the utter human rights nightmares that happened with the family separation policy, it's a product of the current administration's view that illegal aliens are somehow less than human.

This is wonderful in my view, because this is the perfect pretext to imprison those parents and whenever the opportunity arises, they can be permanently banned from the US (on pain of death) after being deported.

I dont see how the current administration in anyway sees illegals as subhumans, thats honestly a gross claim for you to make.... With it being a child already in the severe stages of dehydration, the bp did everything they could to save the girls life but ultimatley nothing would have prevented her death due to the severity of it when she entered into The United States

[Fartsniffage]

Which is why I said that the UN should be setting up camps since the richest nation on the planet seems unable to deal with children just over their boarder dying from easily treatable conditions.

Believe it or not, agents of The United States cannot cross international borders just as migrants cant.... as soon as they illegally enter the border, they are within our jurisdiction in which we typically care for them as they are processed which includes food and water.... You are making The United States out to be at fault for respecting international borders

Only one side was firing off tear gas.

And the idea that the US respects borders.....lol.

[Cedoria]

This is wonderful in my view, because this is the perfect pretext to imprison those parents and whenever the opportunity arises, they can be permanently banned from the US (on pain of death) after being deported.

"It's great if a child dies because muh deportation!"

The poster in question says stuff like that about 99% of the time. So I'd advise ignoring it.