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Postby Novus Wrepland » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:29 am

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syria-layla-shweikani-prison-death-damascus-assad-chicago-us-terrorism-charges-a8679826.html%3famp
Last month, Layla Shweikani’s parents received the news they had been dreading for two years. Their daughter, a 26-year-old Chicago native, had died in Syria.

Shweikani travelled to the country in September 2015 to help people affected by the war raging there, but was arrested by Syrian authorities just six months after her arrival and charged with terrorism offences.

Less than a year later she was executed following a trial that lasted for 30 seconds, according to rights groups following her case.

In the weeks since her death was confirmed, neither the White House nor the US State Department have issued a public statement on the circumstances of how she died.


As the global outcry over the murder of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi continues to reverberate, many have struggled to understand why her killing has failed to elicit similar attention.

That silence is indicative of how two successive US administrations failed Shweikani and her family, both in her time of need as a prisoner and after her brutal death, according to people involved with the efforts to have her freed.


This is both depressing and absurd. A green card holder gets kidnapped and murdered resulting in a massive media outcry but when a citizen gets arrested and executed in a show trial we get crickets. Of course, both acts were terrible, and the Kashoggi case was probably much easier for the media to pick up on and confirm. Yet still, it doesn’t even seem like much US media has reported on it at all after the fact. At least Shweikani’s Congressman has taken notice...

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Postby Milozoldyck » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:31 am

What can we do about it?
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Postby Novus Wrepland » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:37 am

Milozoldyck wrote:What can we do about it?

We can make noises, feign outrage, as we did for previous cases of our citizens getting killed in the Middle East.

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Postby Saiwania » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:39 am

Well, no one forced her to go to Syria. She really ought to have known the risks if she knew Syria was at war. Syria's government of course, isn't going to take kindly to foreign fighters assisting their rebel opponents and etc. Being American doesn't shield you from consequences or the dangers of this world if you stray too far from home.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:40 am

Yes. No news about it. First I heard.

Now if Assad had ordered her killed? Probably would have made the news. Welcome to politics.
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Postby Unithonia » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:43 am

Milozoldyck wrote:What can we do about it?

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:43 am

Milozoldyck wrote:What can we do about it?

Literally anything.
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Postby Novus Wrepland » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:44 am

The Black Forrest wrote:Yes. No news about it. First I heard.

Now if Assad had ordered her killed? Probably would have made the news. Welcome to politics.

Isn’t there evidence his father was behind the Lockerbie bombings instead of Ghaddafi? Seems like this allegedly unfairly treated family can get away with a lot.

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The Black Forrest wrote:Yes. No news about it. First I heard.

Now if Assad had ordered her killed? Probably would have made the news. Welcome to politics.

Isn’t there evidence his father was behind the Lockerbie bombings instead of Ghaddafi? Seems like this allegedly unfairly treated family can get away with a lot.

There’s absolutely zero evidence that Syrian Government was behind Lockerbie.
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Postby Kannap » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:59 am

Milozoldyck wrote:What can we do about it?


don't travel to war-torn countries.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:02 am

Kannap wrote:
Milozoldyck wrote:What can we do about it?


don't travel to war-torn countries.

Don't elect a government that couldn't care less about its people.
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Postby Kannap » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:07 am

Ifreann wrote:
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don't travel to war-torn countries.

Don't elect a government that couldn't care less about its people.


That too, immensely.
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Postby Topoliani » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:10 am

Milozoldyck wrote:What can we do about it?

Convince Russia, China, and America to gangbang Syria
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I propose that we reposses any nation who harms a US citizen in any way.
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The Emerald Legion wrote:I propose that we reposses any nation who harms a US citizen in any way.


As if we want to own Syria. That's like going to repossess a car from somebody who's missed many payments but instead of taking the 2014 Honda Civic, we take repossess the rusty 1970 piece of shit sitting on blocks in the back yard.
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Kannap wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:I propose that we reposses any nation who harms a US citizen in any way.


As if we want to own Syria. That's like going to repossess a car from somebody who's missed many payments but instead of taking the 2014 Honda Civic, we take repossess the rusty 1970 piece of shit sitting on blocks in the back yard.


I mean, better than leaving it sit so they can turn it into a cobbled together death machine and break down, wrecking actually good cars in the process.

If we take it, we can recycle it and make something good.
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As if we want to own Syria. That's like going to repossess a car from somebody who's missed many payments but instead of taking the 2014 Honda Civic, we take repossess the rusty 1970 piece of shit sitting on blocks in the back yard.


I mean, better than leaving it sit so they can turn it into a cobbled together death machine and break down, wrecking actually good cars in the process.

If we take it, we can recycle it and make something good.


Ah, yes, like all those other times the United States has been well known for waltzing into a Middle Eastern country and coming out making it a paradise oasis.
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I mean, better than leaving it sit so they can turn it into a cobbled together death machine and break down, wrecking actually good cars in the process.

If we take it, we can recycle it and make something good.


Ah, yes, like all those other times the United States has been well known for waltzing into a Middle Eastern country and coming out making it a paradise oasis.


You can't blame imperialism for the failures of 'trying to appease people who scream about imperialism.'
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:31 am

Methinks it doesn't quite have the same emotional impact. Syria is an active warzone, after all.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:37 am

Ifreann wrote:
Milozoldyck wrote:What can we do about it?

Literally anything.

Tell Assad if he released her, we would stop trying to overthrow him?
Not directed at you iffy, but trying to understand this.

American Syrian family goes to Syria. Girl goes to work for the enemy of the regime, (which coincidentally the American government is working to overthrow) is arrested and executed for doing so. And the family expects the American government should have done more to procure her release by applying pressure to the Syrian government. Do I have it right?
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Postby Sicaris » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:39 am

It’s an active warzone. She went there of her own accord.

She knew the risks. She died.

That’s called a warzone, guys.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:42 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Literally anything.

Tell Assad if he released her, we would stop trying to overthrow him?
Not directed at you iffy, but trying to understand this.

American Syrian family goes to Syria. Girl goes to work for the enemy of the regime, (which coincidentally the American government is working to overthrow) is arrested and executed for doing so. And the family expects the American government should have done more to procure her release by applying pressure to the Syrian government. Do I have it right?

She wasn't a rebel fighter, she was there to give humanitarian aid to civilians in Damascus.
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Ifreann wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Tell Assad if he released her, we would stop trying to overthrow him?
Not directed at you iffy, but trying to understand this.

American Syrian family goes to Syria. Girl goes to work for the enemy of the regime, (which coincidentally the American government is working to overthrow) is arrested and executed for doing so. And the family expects the American government should have done more to procure her release by applying pressure to the Syrian government. Do I have it right?

She wasn't a rebel fighter, she was there to give humanitarian aid to civilians in Damascus.


I mean. He's a dictator. His accusations being factually accurate isn't necessarily a requirement.
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The Emerald Legion wrote:
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Ah, yes, like all those other times the United States has been well known for waltzing into a Middle Eastern country and coming out making it a paradise oasis.


You can't blame imperialism for the failures of 'trying to appease people who scream about imperialism.'


Nah, imperialism is just a shit outdated concept, innit mate?
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:50 am

Sicaris wrote:It’s an active warzone. She went there of her own accord.

She knew the risks. She died.

That’s called a warzone, guys.

She didn't wander into a battle and get shot, she was arrested by the government and executed for trying to help civilians.


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Ifreann wrote:She wasn't a rebel fighter, she was there to give humanitarian aid to civilians in Damascus.


I mean. He's a dictator. His accusations being factually accurate isn't necessarily a requirement.

Assad may well be of the opinion that efforts to keep Syrian civilians alive and safe constitute treason against him, but we don't need to agree with him.
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