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TIME Person Of The Year 2018

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TIME Person Of The Year 2018

Postby Ifreann » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:56 am

TIME Magazine has today named "The Guardians" as their Person Of The Year. No, not the Marvel superheroes. The four people and a magazine named as Person Of The Year are Jamal Khashoggi, Wa Lone & Kyaw Soe Oo, Maria Ressa, and The Capital Gazette. Guardians in the War On Truth, you see. Very dramatic, but not exactly wrong.

Jamal Khashoggi, I trust we are all aware, was murdered by the Saudi Arabian government for being critical of Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman.

Wa Lone and Kyaw Soe Oo, Reuters journalists, have been imprisoned in Myanmar for investigating the genocide of Rohingya Muslims.

Maria Ressa is editor of Rappler, a news website critical of the Filipino government. They're going after her and her website for alleged tax evasion.

The Capital Gazette office in Maryland was attacked by Jarrod Ramos. Ramos, who shot and killed five members of the staff and injured two others, had been harassing and threatening staff at the paper for years after failing to sue them for reporting(truthfully) that he had plead guilty to criminal harassment.

I'd say this is a good pick by TIME. The on-going attacks on the free press, clearly, involve far more than just Trump's shitposting about fake news, and having a free press is pretty important for, you know, holding governments accountable and all that good stuff. What do you think, NSG? Approve? Disapprove? Failing TIME is fake news?

Oh, also, the online readers' poll chose K-pop band BTS as Person Of The Year, and runners-up for the main Person Of The Year were Donald Trump, Robert Mueller, the March For Our Lives activists, Moon Jae-in, Ryan Coogler, and Meghan Markle.
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Postby Sicaris » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:00 am

Khashoggi deserved it. Don’t know who the other people are.

Not sure why a K-Pop band was nominated for “Person of the Year”, but that’s TIME for you.
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Postby Mardla » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:07 am

Sicaris wrote:Khashoggi deserved it. Don’t know who the other people are.

Not sure why a K-Pop band was nominated for “Person of the Year”, but that’s TIME for you.

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:10 am

Sicaris wrote:Khashoggi deserved it. Don’t know who the other people are.

Not sure why a K-Pop band was nominated for “Person of the Year”, but that’s TIME for you.

I understand them to be hugely popular, and since it was the readers' online poll I assume they were nominated by fans.


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Sicaris wrote:Khashoggi deserved it. Don’t know who the other people are.

Not sure why a K-Pop band was nominated for “Person of the Year”, but that’s TIME for you.

It will be an anime waifu next year

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Postby Arlenton » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:13 am

Umm wtf? Where is Jim Acosta? No journalist is as #brave as him.

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Postby Liriena » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:14 am

Arlenton wrote:Umm wtf? Where is Jim Acosta? No journalist is as #brave as him.

He's getting Kung Fu Master of the Year.
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Postby Mardla » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:15 am

Arlenton wrote:Umm wtf? Where is Jim Acosta? No journalist is as #brave as him.

*drops mic*
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Postby Liriena » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:15 am

I'm fine with it. Honestly, though, not a huge fan of how TIME tries to unilaterally set a whole year's agenda with this thing.
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Postby Saiwania » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:17 am

I don't know if Khashoggi is at fault or not, for meeting a bad end. But it probably is the case that he shouldn't have been going out of his way to besmirch Saudi Arabia's king. He's royalty and a head of state, good grief- have some respect. Nobody should do this any more than going against the Emperor of Japan for example.
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Postby Tanaeria » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:17 am

They all highly deserved this prestigious award. However it's unfortunate how they deserved it.
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Postby Mardla » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:20 am

Saiwania wrote:I don't know if Khashoggi is at fault or not, for meeting a bad end. But it probably is the case that he shouldn't have been going out of his way to besmirch Saudi Arabia's king. He's royalty and a head of state, good grief- have some respect. Nobody should do this any more than going against the Emperor of Japan for example.

I imagine he would defend Saudi Arabia if it happened to a journo he disliked.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:20 am

Saiwania wrote:I don't know if Khashoggi is at fault or not, for meeting a bad end. But it probably is the case that he shouldn't have been going out of his way to besmirch Saudi Arabia's king. He's royalty and a head of state, good grief- have some respect. Nobody should do this any more than going against the Emperor of Japan for example.

Saudis shouldn't criticise their government because it's a monarchy? The fuck kind of idea is that?
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Postby Mardla » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:23 am

Ifreann wrote:
Saiwania wrote:I don't know if Khashoggi is at fault or not, for meeting a bad end. But it probably is the case that he shouldn't have been going out of his way to besmirch Saudi Arabia's king. He's royalty and a head of state, good grief- have some respect. Nobody should do this any more than going against the Emperor of Japan for example.

Saudis shouldn't criticise their government because it's a monarchy? The fuck kind of idea is that?

Criticizing your government is a form of hate speech. Hate speech is NOT free speech.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:27 am

Sicaris wrote:Khashoggi deserved it. Don’t know who the other people are.

Not sure why a K-Pop band was nominated for “Person of the Year”, but that’s TIME for you.

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Postby The Holy Therns » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:28 am

Saiwania wrote:I don't know if Khashoggi is at fault or not, for meeting a bad end. But it probably is the case that he shouldn't have been going out of his way to besmirch Saudi Arabia's king. He's royalty and a head of state, good grief- have some respect. Nobody should do this any more than going against the Emperor of Japan for example.


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Postby Ifreann » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:29 am

Mardla wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Saudis shouldn't criticise their government because it's a monarchy? The fuck kind of idea is that?

Criticizing your government is a form of hate speech. Hate speech is NOT free speech.

It's rather chilly here, please continue with these hot takes.
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Postby Khataiy » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:29 am

Sicaris wrote:Khashoggi deserved it. Don’t know who the other people are.

Not sure why a K-Pop band was nominated for “Person of the Year”, but that’s TIME for you.

No he didn't he didn't do anything of note or anything important, he was an unimportant journalist whose death means nothing.

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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:30 am

Ifreann wrote:
Saiwania wrote:I don't know if Khashoggi is at fault or not, for meeting a bad end. But it probably is the case that he shouldn't have been going out of his way to besmirch Saudi Arabia's king. He's royalty and a head of state, good grief- have some respect. Nobody should do this any more than going against the Emperor of Japan for example.

Saudis shouldn't criticise their government because it's a monarchy? The fuck kind of idea is that?

Nobody should criticize the Supreme Council either. *nod*
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:32 am

Khataiy wrote:
Sicaris wrote:Khashoggi deserved it. Don’t know who the other people are.

Not sure why a K-Pop band was nominated for “Person of the Year”, but that’s TIME for you.

No he didn't he didn't do anything of note or anything important, he was an unimportant journalist whose death means nothing.

Saudi royal confirmed.
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Postby Khataiy » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:37 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Khataiy wrote:No he didn't he didn't do anything of note or anything important, he was an unimportant journalist whose death means nothing.

Saudi royal confirmed.

What should he get recognition for? Coming from a family that sold guns to Iran during the Iran-Iraq war betraying their own people? Being an outspoken supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood? Or the fact that he wouldn't care much about a murder like this if it happened to someone he opposed. He was pathetic

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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:40 am

Khataiy wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Saudi royal confirmed.

What should he get recognition for? Coming from a family that sold guns to Iran during the Iran-Iraq war betraying their own people? Being an outspoken supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood? Or the fact that he wouldn't care much about a murder like this if it happened to someone he opposed. He was pathetic

You might think cernsorship by murder is perfectly fine but in the West it generally isn't. Plus parroting the Saudi propaganda justifying the murder. Yeah.
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Postby Khataiy » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:42 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Khataiy wrote:What should he get recognition for? Coming from a family that sold guns to Iran during the Iran-Iraq war betraying their own people? Being an outspoken supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood? Or the fact that he wouldn't care much about a murder like this if it happened to someone he opposed. He was pathetic

You might think cernsorship by murder is perfectly fine but in the West it generally isn't. Plus parroting the Saudi propaganda justifying the murder. Yeah.

"Censorship by murder" being censored isn't an achievement to get recognition for, millions of people are censored daily

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Postby Valrifell » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:50 am

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Saiwania wrote:I don't know if Khashoggi is at fault or not, for meeting a bad end. But it probably is the case that he shouldn't have been going out of his way to besmirch Saudi Arabia's king. He's royalty and a head of state, good grief- have some respect. Nobody should do this any more than going against the Emperor of Japan for example.


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Postby Valrifell » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:52 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Sicaris wrote:Khashoggi deserved it. Don’t know who the other people are.

Not sure why a K-Pop band was nominated for “Person of the Year”, but that’s TIME for you.

Internet assholes.


Or we truly live in the darkest timeline where K-Pop broke into the mainstream American market in a big way.

Truly I am fearful for the future if that is the case.
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