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Why cant people just enjoy the holidays?

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what do you think about these people?

They are doing the right thing.
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They are ruining the holiday.
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Tronn
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Why cant people just enjoy the holidays?

Postby Tronn » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:19 pm

So I am just getting ready for the holidays to spend time with my family and actually unwind for a period of time right... and then I find the articles. The articles that call certain songs racist, bullying, and whatever. Example, Rudolph the red nosed reindeer is a timeless classic that surely everyone can enjoy right? No, of course not in todays world. Apparently the film is bigoted, racist, and abusive. Thats not even the point of the film. The point of the film is to discourage discrimination. It literally shows its wrong to not include Rudolph because he has a red nose and the movie has a happy ending showing all reindeer can get along. Another example is White Christmas. Apparently the song is racist because of its name and it promotes white supremacy. What horseshit. It means white as in snowy. It means a winter wonderland full of snow. These people are so stupid the song should be renamed A Snowy Christmas. Just wow. I am not trying to bash a certain political group here, just a certain type of people. Like seriously it feels like these people can never enjoy themselves or have any sort of fun social behavior without complaining something is racist. It is just depressing at this point.

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Postby Cloney » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:21 pm

Well... they play these songs so early on we really have time to think about it.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:21 pm

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:25 pm

The holiday is already ruined by endless consumerism.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:43 pm

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Postby The South Falls » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:44 pm

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Postby Ada Empire » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:49 pm

Tronn wrote:So I am just getting ready for the holidays to spend time with my family and actually unwind for a period of time right... and then I find the articles. The articles that call certain songs racist, bullying, and whatever. Example, Rudolph the red nosed reindeer is a timeless classic that surely everyone can enjoy right? No, of course not in todays world. Apparently the film is bigoted, racist, and abusive. Thats not even the point of the film. The point of the film is to discourage discrimination. It literally shows its wrong to not include Rudolph because he has a red nose and the movie has a happy ending showing all reindeer can get along. Another example is White Christmas. Apparently the song is racist because of its name and it promotes white supremacy. What horseshit. It means white as in snowy. It means a winter wonderland full of snow. These people are so stupid the song should be renamed A Snowy Christmas. Just wow. I am not trying to bash a certain political group here, just a certain type of people. Like seriously it feels like these people can never enjoy themselves or have any sort of fun social behavior without complaining something is racist. It is just depressing at this point.

this narrative that people cant enjoy holidays because people are calling things racist or whatever shows youre coming from a privileged position, you can ignore the libtards calling something racist.

the people who ACTUALLY cant enjoy the holidays are too poor to. You can't ignore poverty bud, you can ignore middle class identity politics.
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Postby Teachian » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:52 pm

Ugh, society and commandeering the season with their agendas.

They can do whatever they want, I’m keep the true holiday spirit alive:murder snowman and nailing neighbours with snowballs, here I come.
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Postby The Niceties of Normal Moral Constraints » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:54 pm

Tronn wrote:Why cant people just enjoy the holidays?


The real question is why people can't just be relatively nice to each other all the time, without inventing some "holidays" nonsense just for the purpose of driving up credit card debt and shanking each other in the Walmart parking lot.

Bah, and, I might add, humbug.
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Postby Hrythingia » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:55 pm

No Tronn, dear chestnut, we are not allowed to celebrate our patriarchal, western, Christian and capitalist festival. Happy Kwanza.
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Postby Right wing humour squad » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:57 pm

Why can’t we just ban holiday seasons and allow people to celebrate what they want how they want.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:00 pm

I, too, become very upset when people invite me to think about media instead of consuming it mindlessly. How dare these people cause me to be aware of something I was privileged enough to ignore. It should be a crime.
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Postby Xmara » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:41 pm

You do realize that this "mass outrage" or whatever is likely just a dozen or so people on Twitter ranting?
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:04 pm

Ifreann wrote:I, too, become very upset when people invite me to think about media instead of consuming it mindlessly. How dare these people cause me to be aware of something I was privileged enough to ignore. It should be a crime.

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:13 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I, too, become very upset when people invite me to think about media instead of consuming it mindlessly. How dare these people cause me to be aware of something I was privileged enough to ignore. It should be a crime.

"Everything is racist, even when it has nothing to do about race."

You caught me, I think everything is racist.
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Postby Benuty » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:58 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:The holiday is already ruined by endless consumerism.

Only for a little while my friend.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:26 pm

I swear people intentionally make their own lives miserable and then blame it on others.

Just shut the hell up and enjoy the song, damnit!

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Postby Reploid Productions » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:32 pm

Ada Empire wrote:you can ignore the libtards calling something racist

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Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:10 pm

I hate the holidays. They remind me of my family fighting and the years I spent working a retail job. The same god damned songs playing over and over again for two months straight everywhere you go. Every poor bastard still in customer service mindlessly saying "happy holidays!" or "merry Christmas!" as if the sheep need a verbal queue to celebrate consumerism dressed up in the facade of giving.
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Postby Latin Islands » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:26 pm

Tronn wrote:So I am just getting ready for the holidays to spend time with my family and actually unwind for a period of time right... and then I find the articles....

Isn't it quite early to start preparing for the holiday proper? I mean, there are still several days away.
I kinda feel for you though, it is sad to see people adding unnecessary meanings to some elements of the holiday season.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:38 pm

This stuff is getting ridiculous. I wonder if pretty soon there will be any songs to play or any tradition to be allowed. Why can;'t these people take the energy they spend getting offered over stupid nonsense like this and get involved in someone productive in their community or volunteer on a election campaign?

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Postby Dark Socialism » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:40 pm

Because miserable urban liberals need to be offended so they can feel alive for a couple minutes
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:41 pm

Dark Socialism wrote:Because miserable urban liberals need to be offended so they can feel alive for a couple minutes

Im a urban liberal and i think this is utterly ridiculous

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Postby Wahlid » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:45 pm

Xmara wrote:You do realize that this "mass outrage" or whatever is likely just a dozen or so people on Twitter ranting?
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:47 pm

TinaNamdev wrote:movie has a happy ending showing all reindeer can get along. Another example is White Christmas

yeah well some people have to be offended over every little thing and by their logic everything that isnt rainbows and unicorns should be banned.

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