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Reikoku
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Postby Reikoku » Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:10 am

Vassenor wrote:
Reikoku wrote:
Labeling Asian figures as "fascist" is very Eurocentric, ngl.


I mean he -was- a right wing statist.


Fascism is a historical phenomenon that happened in Europe, and its ideology is essentially based on historical conditions there. Ideologies in Asia developed completely separately and had their own causes and effects. Which causes confusion when trying to apply that label in completely separate historical contexts such as Japan between the Meiji and Taisho periods. The Right/Left dichotomy is largely useless when dealing with eclectic thinkers like Kita, who wanted an Asian equivalent of the EU which spoke Esperanto.

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Postby Autarkheia » Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:21 am

Js Maoism also developed differently than Leninism because of very different historical conditions, but we still call it communism.

For my part I said he sounds fashy (not necessarily fascist) because he was radical, nationalist, statist, anti-Marxist, anti-democratic, etc. He was apparently not an ethnonationalist though. I am not sure if I would call him a fascist by a strict definition, just adjacent.
We are free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the right, a Fascist century. If the XIXth century was the century of the individual (liberalism implies individualism) we are free to believe that this is the "collective" century, and therefore the century of the State.

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Dec 24, 2018 1:44 pm

The New California Republic wrote:I really don't know how we have got on to the whole Lenin/Stalin/Trotsky thing in the context of the current thread. :?

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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:53 pm

Reikoku wrote:
Liriena wrote:Ewwww


Asia for the Asians. =)
And tourists.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:54 pm

Ifreann wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I really don't know how we have got on to the whole Lenin/Stalin/Trotsky thing in the context of the current thread. :?

Sex is leftist, and the gays have all the sex.


I mean, you become pretty egalitarian if one is horny enough.

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