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Why didn't the world save Iraq?

Postby Foul Linen » Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:47 am

And stopped America from invading it? And I'm not talking about protesting here!

The internet keeps saying over and over again that the Iraq war was wrong and America was evil for it.... if that's so why didn't the world protected Iraq and sanctioned, blockaded or threatened America that if it still goes ahead with the invasion, it too will be invaded? This could have saved hundred of thousands of lives and might have prevented the problems we face today.... so.... why didn't the world stopped them?

Is the world a coward?

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Postby Tinhampton » Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:52 am

What is your definition of "the world?" And have you forgotten just how many allies the USA has?
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Postby Izaakia » Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:56 am

Same reason you don’t stand in front of a train to try and stop it. There’s only going to be one winner. The USA, and her allies.
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Postby Al-Zalaam » Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:57 am

its all part of a conspiracy to take over the world of al-Islam by the Western powers. I wish the world would've sided with al-Islam than the US when they invaded, but sadly they didn't :(

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Postby Elenir » Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:58 am

You fail to realize that well, America pretty much controls everyone who could do something about it.


Imagine how unpopular would a government be if suddenly all the citizens lost their luxurious American items just so iraq could be protected against it. All these "Iraq was right, USA was wrong" activist would do nothing to sacrifice their lifestyle and commodities in the name of any cause. Also known as lemmings
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Postby Andsed » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:02 am

Simple because there was no one who could do all that much about it. The US was and still is the world leading superpower so opposing the US would be suicide for them.
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Postby Izaakia » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:03 am

Also, and this is quite important. We were all on the side against the geoncidal dictator.
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Postby Page » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:31 am

Foul Linen wrote:And stopped America from invading it? And I'm not talking about protesting here!

The internet keeps saying over and over again that the Iraq war was wrong and America was evil for it.... if that's so why didn't the world protected Iraq and sanctioned, blockaded or threatened America that if it still goes ahead with the invasion, it too will be invaded? This could have saved hundred of thousands of lives and might have prevented the problems we face today.... so.... why didn't the world stopped them?

Is the world a coward?


Are you seriously asking why the world didn't start a war with a country that has a nuclear arsenal and the most powerful military to stop the invasion of a small, diplomatically isolated country? Really? For the same reason America didn't go war with Russia for annexing Crimea - because people won't just start a world war to help a country that's going to get crushed regardless.
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Postby Frievolk » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:34 am

Saddam was pretty much a less competent, less controversial Arab equivalent of Adolf Hitler. The fact the world entered a coalition to depose him was a good thing. The bad thing was that they didn't stay long enough for stability to return to the region, and thus allowed a weak state to be formed that would push it into the puppethood of one of the most evil regimes to ever rise in the Middle East (Islamic Republic of Iran), not to mention also ensure the rise of the most evil regime to ever rise in the middle east (Daesh). Had they stayed long enough for a functioning democracy to be formed (or at least, a functioning state that wouldn't break international law left right and center), the shit The Middle East is in right now could have been avoided.
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Postby Frievolk » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:34 am

Izaakia wrote:Also, and this is quite important. We were all on the side against the geoncidal dictator.

This.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:35 am

Internet opinions aren't the same as government decisions.

Whether they thought it was wrong or right, countries are more likely to stay neutral or support what is arguably the strongest country in the world at present when it is fighting a nation like Iraq.
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Postby Rectification Government » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:36 am

Foul Linen wrote:And stopped America from invading it? And I'm not talking about protesting here!

The internet keeps saying over and over again that the Iraq war was wrong and America was evil for it.... if that's so why didn't the world protected Iraq and sanctioned, blockaded or threatened America that if it still goes ahead with the invasion, it too will be invaded? This could have saved hundred of thousands of lives and might have prevented the problems we face today.... so.... why didn't the world stopped them?

Is the world a coward?

Because the world would much rather let a superpower with thousands of nukes win than side with an incompetent dictator against said superpower. It's Obama's fault that ISIS rose for pulling troops out too early. We should have tried to build a real government in Iraq before leaving.
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Postby Corresia » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:39 am

Because it would be suicide. You cannot fight military wise against a nation who has the greatest army in the world, against a country who can invade anyone and be successful, and not to mention the nation who runs NATO, the greatest military alliance on the planet.

Same goes for economics. You can try embargo's or tarriffs against America, but remember they are the biggest economy, your sanctions against them is like a flea biting a t-rex. It will not work. And, the American actions in retaliation would be catastrophic for the target.

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Postby Rectification Government » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:39 am

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Postby Izaakia » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:39 am

Stellar Colonies wrote:Internet opinions aren't the same as government decisions.

Whether they thought it was wrong or right, countries are more likely to stay neutral or support what is arguably the strongest country in the world at present when it is fighting a nation like Iraq.


A lot of countries did oppose, Germany, France, Russia, China for example. But would you put the lives of your military at risk to defend Sadam Hussain?
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Postby Corresia » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:41 am

Much like their banks America is too big to fail. If America is too fall, it falls from the inside. And we are already on that path.

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Foul Linen wrote:And stopped America from invading it? And I'm not talking about protesting here!

The internet keeps saying over and over again that the Iraq war was wrong and America was evil for it.... if that's so why didn't the world protected Iraq and sanctioned, blockaded or threatened America that if it still goes ahead with the invasion, it too will be invaded? This could have saved hundred of thousands of lives and might have prevented the problems we face today.... so.... why didn't the world stopped them?

Is the world a coward?

Because the world would much rather let a superpower with thousands of nukes win than side with an incompetent dictator against said superpower. It's Obama's fault that ISIS rose for pulling troops out too early. We should have tried to build a real government in Iraq before leaving.


Absolute bullshit, but I don't want to get into a debate that wont lead to anything besides heated arguements.

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Postby Elenir » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:45 am

Corresia wrote:Much like their banks America is too big to fail. If America is too fall, it falls from the inside. And we are already on that path.

Rectification Government wrote:Because the world would much rather let a superpower with thousands of nukes win than side with an incompetent dictator against said superpower. It's Obama's fault that ISIS rose for pulling troops out too early. We should have tried to build a real government in Iraq before leaving.


Absolute bullshit, but I don't want to get into a debate that wont lead to anything besides heated arguements.


Isn't that, like, the point of this board. Or do you not have any arguments to support your claim?
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Postby Toaslandia » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:45 am

Well if someone went to war with the US, that would mean going against NATO and not getting much trade, as America basically controls trade.
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Postby The Yugoslav Protection Force » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:48 am

I know that FR Yugoslavia supported Iraq in the 90s Gulf War, but they stopped when US decided to depose Saddam. The only reason was because Milosevic was similarly isolationist as Saddam was, and they tried to defy the West together, ultimately failing.

I personally see Saddam as the most effective ruler of Iraq throughout history, right now democracy has failed in Iraq and it went from being one of the most advanced Arab nations to the poor country that it is now.

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Postby Rectification Government » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:49 am

The Yugoslav Protection Force wrote:I know that FR Yugoslavia supported Iraq in the 90s Gulf War, but they stopped when US decided to depose Saddam. The only reason was because Milosevic was similarly isolationist as Saddam was, and they tried to defy the West together, ultimately failing.

I personally see Saddam as the most effective ruler of Iraq throughout history, right now democracy has failed in Iraq and it went from being one of the most advanced Arab nations to the poor country that it is now.

And we haven't even taken any colonies.
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Postby Phoenicaea » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:51 am

I add an element here..'it is more advantageous to take a greater slice of the pie that is becoming less at any moment,
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Postby The Yugoslav Protection Force » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:52 am

Rectification Government wrote:And we haven't even taken any colonies.
Thanks Obama.


Arguably Kuwait is a colony of US, and Saudi Arabia is close to being a puppet. Iraq became a problem once Saddam wanted to erase Kuwait and blew up a bunch of oil installations

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Postby Thuzbekistan » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:55 am

Because the Iraq war wasnt wrong. Hussain was a dictator that used chemical weapons against the Kurds and the Iranians and launched SCUD missiles into Israel. The only reason we didnt find any when we invaded was because we had been bombing their production facilities since 1992. He had either used or sold them all by the time we invaded.

What we did wrong was handle the war like we would be out in a year. We had no good occupation plans
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:57 am

The Yugoslav Protection Force wrote:
Rectification Government wrote:And we haven't even taken any colonies.
Thanks Obama.


Arguably Kuwait is a colony of US, and Saudi Arabia is close to being a puppet. Iraq became a problem once Saddam wanted to erase Kuwait and blew up a bunch of oil installations

..... that is really dumb. Kuwait is a small nation not controlled by anyone but itself.
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