Antifa Attacks Liberal Over American Flag.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

During a protest that occurred on August Fourth, a progressive named Paul Welch decided to counter-protest conservative activists that have decided to protest in the Portland area that day, and he decided to join the counterprotest carrying an American flag. Soon after however he was confronted my members of antifa claiming that the flag was a "fascist symbol", and that he was to hand it over. He refused, and after a brief tug of war with the group, another antifa member came up from behind him, and whacked him in the head several times, resulting in him suffering from a concussion. When he was on the ground, other "anti-fascists" then prodded him with their weapons. Source can be found here.

That is why Welch said he decided to show up to the counter-protest with an American flag, an emblem more common among the conservative activists than those who have demonstrated against them.

"The right and certainly a lot of smaller groups like Patriot Prayer might rush to things like the flag and try to take it up as, 'This is our symbol exclusively,'" he said. "Part of my thinking was to take it back."

Aside from a few odd looks, Welch did not encounter any problems when he joined hundreds of other counter-protesters who gathered at City Hall late that morning.
*snip*
The trouble started as the throng began to march east along Southwest Salmon Street toward Naito Parkway about 12:30 p.m.
As he carried his flag, two people dressed in black and covering their faces approached Welch and demanded he turn it over to them, calling it "a fascist symbol," he said.

Welch refused, and the counter-protesters ripped it out of his hands, he said.

Welch wouldn't relinquish the flag.

Video captured by Mike Bivins, a freelance journalist, shows what happened next.

As Welch and the counter-protesters wrangle over the flag, another masked counter-protester begins to strike Welch's body from behind using a weapon concealed in black fabric.

That person then uses the weapon to club Welch on the back of the head, causing him to collapse instantly. The demonstrator with the weapon wanders off.

"My bones turned to Jell-O and I just went down," said Welch, who believes he was struck with a metal object affixed to the end of the weapon.

The video shows a crowd of onlookers watching as Welch lay on the ground in a fetal position. Another counter-protester, holding a shield, appears to stand above the injured man and jabs him with a makeshift weapon.

My opinion of this is that the people who orchestrated this attack are little more than violent thugs with a veneer of political activism, and the acceptance of violence like this if you're on the "correct" side has empowered violent thugs to expand the definition of "fascist" to include anything they don't like, and violently attack, this time striking a liberal. Is an attack like this over an American flag acceptable? What are your thoughts NSG? I say it isn’t.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Wtfreak lol this is messed up even for me.

[Vassenor]

During a protest that occurred on August Fourth, a progressive named Paul Welch decided to counter-protest conservative activists that have decided to protest in the Portland area that day, and he decided to join the counterprotest carrying an American flag. Soon after however he was confronted my members of antifa claiming that the flag was a "fascist symbol", and that he was to hand it over. He refused, and after a brief tug of war with the group, another antifa member came up from behind him, and whacked him in the head several times, resulting in him suffering from a concussion. When he was on the ground, other "anti-fascists" then prodded him with their weapons. Source can be found here.

That is why Welch said he decided to show up to the counter-protest with an American flag, an emblem more common among the conservative activists than those who have demonstrated against them.

"The right and certainly a lot of smaller groups like Patriot Prayer might rush to things like the flag and try to take it up as, 'This is our symbol exclusively,'" he said. "Part of my thinking was to take it back."

Aside from a few odd looks, Welch did not encounter any problems when he joined hundreds of other counter-protesters who gathered at City Hall late that morning.
*snip*
The trouble started as the throng began to march east along Southwest Salmon Street toward Naito Parkway about 12:30 p.m.
As he carried his flag, two people dressed in black and covering their faces approached Welch and demanded he turn it over to them, calling it "a fascist symbol," he said.

Welch refused, and the counter-protesters ripped it out of his hands, he said.

Welch wouldn't relinquish the flag.

Video captured by Mike Bivins, a freelance journalist, shows what happened next.

As Welch and the counter-protesters wrangle over the flag, another masked counter-protester begins to strike Welch's body from behind using a weapon concealed in black fabric.

That person then uses the weapon to club Welch on the back of the head, causing him to collapse instantly. The demonstrator with the weapon wanders off.

"My bones turned to Jell-O and I just went down," said Welch, who believes he was struck with a metal object affixed to the end of the weapon.

The video shows a crowd of onlookers watching as Welch lay on the ground in a fetal position. Another counter-protester, holding a shield, appears to stand above the injured man and jabs him with a makeshift weapon.

My opinion of this is that the people who orchestrated this attack are little more than violent thugs with a veneer of political activism, and the acceptance of violence like this if you're on the "correct" side has empowered violent thugs to expand the definition of "fascist" to include anything they don't like, and violently attack, this time striking a liberal. Is an attack like this over an American flag acceptable? What are your thoughts NSG? I say it isn’t.

So you want to demonise anyone who calls themselves anti-fascist based on the actions of exactly two people?

[Ifreann]

...members of antifa...

No such thing.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

During a protest that occurred on August Fourth, a progressive named Paul Welch decided to counter-protest conservative activists that have decided to protest in the Portland area that day, and he decided to join the counterprotest carrying an American flag. Soon after however he was confronted my members of antifa claiming that the flag was a "fascist symbol", and that he was to hand it over. He refused, and after a brief tug of war with the group, another antifa member came up from behind him, and whacked him in the head several times, resulting in him suffering from a concussion. When he was on the ground, other "anti-fascists" then prodded him with their weapons. Source can be found here.

My opinion of this is that the people who orchestrated this attack are little more than violent thugs with a veneer of political activism, and the acceptance of violence like this if you're on the "correct" side has empowered violent thugs to expand the definition of "fascist" to include anything they don't like, and violently attack, this time striking a liberal. Is an attack like this over an American flag acceptable? What are your thoughts NSG? I say it isn’t.

So you want to demonise anyone who calls themselves anti-fascist based on the actions of exactly two people?

I'm asking for what your opinion of the incident is.

[The Burke Islands]

Lock them up, this is assault.

[Vassenor]

So you want to demonise anyone who calls themselves anti-fascist based on the actions of exactly two people?

I'm asking for what your opinion of the incident is.

And straight into the deflections we go.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I'm asking for what your opinion of the incident is.

And straight into the deflections we go.

No, you're the one deflecting, because you don't want to admit that the group you like isn't always right.

[Estanglia]

So you want to demonise anyone who calls themselves anti-fascist based on the actions of exactly two people?

I'm asking for what your opinion of the incident is.

And Vass is asking you about your opinion of this incident.

[Vassenor]

And straight into the deflections we go.

No, your the one deflecting, because you don't want to admit that the group you like isn't always right.

Oh wow, did you pull something reaching that hard?

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I'm asking for what your opinion of the incident is.

And Vass is asking you about your opinion of this incident.

It's in the OP.

[Aureumterra]

During a protest that occurred on August Fourth, a progressive named Paul Welch decided to counter-protest conservative activists that have decided to protest in the Portland area that day, and he decided to join the counterprotest carrying an American flag. Soon after however he was confronted my members of antifa claiming that the flag was a "fascist symbol", and that he was to hand it over. He refused, and after a brief tug of war with the group, another antifa member came up from behind him, and whacked him in the head several times, resulting in him suffering from a concussion. When he was on the ground, other "anti-fascists" then prodded him with their weapons. Source can be found here.

My opinion of this is that the people who orchestrated this attack are little more than violent thugs with a veneer of political activism, and the acceptance of violence like this if you're on the "correct" side has empowered violent thugs to expand the definition of "fascist" to include anything they don't like, and violently attack, this time striking a liberal. Is an attack like this over an American flag acceptable? What are your thoughts NSG? I say it isn’t.

So you want to demonise anyone who calls themselves anti-fascist based on the actions of exactly two people?

The OP said “people who orchestrated the attacks"

[Genivaria]

and he decided to join the counterprotest carrying an American flag. Soon after however he was confronted my members of antifa claiming that the flag was a "fascist symbol"

*SCREECHES IN BALD EAGLE!!*

[Wallenburg]

1) This is, of course, unacceptable, and I hope that this man was able to identify them and thereby press charges against them.

2) You're about 3 months late to this. Maybe a more recent story would be more relevant?

[Vassenor]

So you want to demonise anyone who calls themselves anti-fascist based on the actions of exactly two people?

The OP said “people who orchestrated the attacks"

And who would that be? Because all the source gives us is "two random guys beat someone up for carrying an American flag".

[Ifreann]

So you want to demonise anyone who calls themselves anti-fascist based on the actions of exactly two people?

I'm asking for what your opinion of the incident is.

Yeah, you're just curious about people's opinions. Of this story from three months ago. In which unknown people are described as "members of antifa".

No agenda here, fellow political neutrals.

[Galloism]

Well, it IS the official flag of the KKK....

Yes of course I'm kidding.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

No, your the one deflecting, because you don't want to admit that the group you like isn't always right.

Oh wow, did you pull something reaching that hard?

Are we going to talk about the incident, or are you going to pathetically make this conversation about me, because you don't have an argument with merit?

[Ifreann]

And straight into the deflections we go.

No, you're the one deflecting, because you don't want to admit that the group you like isn't always right.

"I desperately want to own anti-fascists online"

[Vassenor]

Oh wow, did you pull something reaching that hard?

Are we going to talk about the incident, or are you going to pathetically make this conversation about me, because you don't have an argument with merit?

Right, how dare I suggest that there are problems with the premise you're presenting. Because I don't see anywhere where I have tried to make this about -you-.

[The Nose Tribe]

Deal with the terrorists properly, open fire the next time.

[Wallenburg]

I'd like to point out the guy in orange in the left of the video frame, who seems genuinely concerned for the victim unlike pretty much all the other bystanders, and based on his body language appears to leave to find help at the end of the video. Kudos to guy in orange.

Deal with the terrorists properly, open fire the next time.

Good to see the fascists finally got here.

[Seangoli]

Oh wow, did you pull something reaching that hard?

Are we going to talk about the incident, or are you going to pathetically make this conversation about me, because you don't have an argument with merit?

Wjat, exactly, is the argument being presented? That assault is bad? That's about as vapid a discussion as you can get.

[Ifreann]

Oh wow, did you pull something reaching that hard?

Are we going to talk about the incident, or are you going to pathetically make this conversation about me, because you don't have an argument with merit?

Did you know that wearing black and covering your face at a protest are not trademarked by Official Antifa HQ? Anyone can do it.

[Aureumterra]

Deal with the terrorists properly, open fire the next time.

For having an American Flag?