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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:33 pm

Welcome to the general megathread for all polytheistic/pagan faiths. I don't think there are enough of each individual faith to make individual threads so here's a common place for it.

The rules as to what is polytheistic is simple: if you believe in multiple gods, boom. You're polytheistic. Have fun.
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Postby Jolthig » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:35 pm

Greetings, my polytheistic brothers.

Monotheistic Ahmadi Muslim here. :p
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:36 pm

Jolthig wrote:Greetings, my polytheistic brothers.

Monotheistic Ahmadi Muslim here. :p

Wait. So, y'all don't worship Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as a god?! The Sunnis have lied to me.
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Postby Jolthig » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:37 pm

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Greetings, my polytheistic brothers.

Monotheistic Ahmadi Muslim here. :p

Wait. So, y'all don't worship Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as a god?! The Sunnis have lied to me.

Nope we don't. He was just a prophet in our beliefs.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:38 pm

Wait isn't Zoroastrianism monotheist?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:39 pm

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Bakery Hill wrote:Wait isn't Zoroastrianism monotheist?


Not from what I understand.
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:39 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:Wait isn't Zoroastrianism monotheist?

Depends on who you ask. To the Parsis (who make up the great majority), it is. They relegate the yazata to simple angels, rather than gods in their own right.
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Postby Jolthig » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:39 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:Wait isn't Zoroastrianism monotheist?

I believe some sects of Zoroastrianism are monotheistic. Kinda like Hinduism.
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Postby Cetacea » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:09 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:Wait isn't Zoroastrianism monotheist?


Technically Zoroastrianism is Pantheistic in as much as the the Manifest entities self evolved from a Immanent Concious Universe. The belief might be considered Dualistic Monotheism with the Supreme being Ahura Mazda (Mind-Being) opposed by Ahriman (Destruction)

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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:11 pm

Cetacea wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Wait isn't Zoroastrianism monotheist?


Technically Zoroastrianism is Pantheistic in as much as the the Manifest entities self evolved from a Immanent Concious Universe. The belief might be considered Dualistic Monotheism with the Supreme being Ahura Mazda (Mind-Being) opposed by Ahriman (Destruction)

Or it's polytheistic, considering the dozens of other gods within it :P
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:24 pm

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
Cetacea wrote:
Technically Zoroastrianism is Pantheistic in as much as the the Manifest entities self evolved from a Immanent Concious Universe. The belief might be considered Dualistic Monotheism with the Supreme being Ahura Mazda (Mind-Being) opposed by Ahriman (Destruction)

Or it's polytheistic, considering the dozens of other gods within it :P


Those are rookie numbers, smh.
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Postby Negu » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:28 pm

Would a belief that each individual is their own god count as polytheism?

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Postby Dark Socialism » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:32 pm

Negu wrote:Would a belief that each individual is their own god count as polytheism?

Anthrotheism?
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Postby Cetacea » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:33 pm

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
Cetacea wrote:
Technically Zoroastrianism is Pantheistic in as much as the the Manifest entities self evolved from a Immanent Concious Universe. The belief might be considered Dualistic Monotheism with the Supreme being Ahura Mazda (Mind-Being) opposed by Ahriman (Destruction)

Or it's polytheistic, considering the dozens of other gods within it :P


Only if you consider Catholics to be Polytheistic since the Yazatas are essentially Angels. Even the Amesha are emanations of Ahura Mazda rather than distinct deities

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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:37 pm

Cetacea wrote:
Sahansahiye Iran wrote:Or it's polytheistic, considering the dozens of other gods within it :P


Only if you consider Catholics to be Polytheistic since the Yazatas are essentially Angels. Even the Amesha are emanations of Ahura Mazda rather than distinct deities

Lol no. Yazatas were made out to be angels later but they were not originally so. Yazata literally means "one worthy of worship or veneration". You don't worship angels, dude.

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Sahansahiye Iran wrote:Or it's polytheistic, considering the dozens of other gods within it :P


Those are rookie numbers, smh.

Well, 61 named gods, iirc. But billions more if you count the Fravashis
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Postby Jolthig » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:44 pm

It seems like some Hindu influences got into some sects of zoroastrianism
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:46 pm

Jolthig wrote:It seems like some Hindu influences got into some sects of zoroastrianism

Yup. And vice versa.

Iirc, there's even a sect that believes in reincarnation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilm-e-Khshnoom
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Postby Second Empire of America » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:27 pm

Jolthig wrote:Greetings, my polytheistic brothers.

Monotheistic Ahmadi Muslim here. :p


Hello, monotheistic brothers and sisters. Nice to meet you. :hug:

I'm a Hellenic Pagan, which is quite obviously polytheistic.
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Postby Jolthig » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:29 pm

Second Empire of America wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Greetings, my polytheistic brothers.

Monotheistic Ahmadi Muslim here. :p


Hello, monotheistic brothers and sisters. Nice to meet you. :hug:

I'm a Hellenic Pagan, which is quite obviously polytheistic.

Nice meeting you as well :)
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:43 pm

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Jolthig wrote:Greetings, my polytheistic brothers.

Monotheistic Ahmadi Muslim here. :p


Hello, monotheistic brothers and sisters. Nice to meet you. :hug:

I'm a Hellenic Pagan, which is quite obviously polytheistic.

Welcome! One of my friends is an extremely devout Hellenic Pagan lol. Specifically the ideology of Julian the Apostate (he'd kill me if he knew I had just called him that lol)
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Postby A m e n r i a » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:48 pm

Wow, I didn't know polytheists still exist (except Shintos). I wonder if anyone still worships the Egyptian pantheon..?
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A m e n r i a wrote:Wow, I didn't know polytheists still exist (except Shintos). I wonder if anyone still worships the Egyptian pantheon..?

There are dozens of polytheistic faiths still out there lol. Like, not even counting the reconstructionist ones. You've got Hindus, Shintoists, Buddhism (kind of), Mormonism, Santeria, and the many different African, Asian, and American folk religions.

As for the Egyptian pantheon, yeah. There's a reconstructionist movement for such. Kemeticism it's called. I know a few such practitioners. Some pretty interesting stuff.
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Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
A m e n r i a wrote:Wow, I didn't know polytheists still exist (except Shintos). I wonder if anyone still worships the Egyptian pantheon..?

There are dozens of polytheistic faiths still out there lol. Like, not even counting the reconstructionist ones. You've got Hindus, Shintoists, Buddhism (kind of), Mormonism, Santeria, and the many different African, Asian, and American folk religions.

As for the Egyptian pantheon, yeah. There's a reconstructionist movement for such. Kemeticism it's called. I know a few such practitioners. Some pretty interesting stuff.


Oh yeah, I forgot about the Hindus. Probably because the ones back home are monotheistic. I thought Buddhists are monotheistic too though.
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:09 am

A m e n r i a wrote:
Sahansahiye Iran wrote:There are dozens of polytheistic faiths still out there lol. Like, not even counting the reconstructionist ones. You've got Hindus, Shintoists, Buddhism (kind of), Mormonism, Santeria, and the many different African, Asian, and American folk religions.

As for the Egyptian pantheon, yeah. There's a reconstructionist movement for such. Kemeticism it's called. I know a few such practitioners. Some pretty interesting stuff.


Oh yeah, I forgot about the Hindus. Probably because the ones back home are monotheistic. I thought Buddhists are monotheistic too though.

Buddhists are very complicated and varied. It also really just depends on what you consider a god, tbh. Buddhism could be monotheistic, polytheistic, or even atheistic. It's something else, man.
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Postby Dogmeat » Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:36 am

Jolthig wrote:It seems like some Hindu influences got into some sects of zoroastrianism

It's more like they're opposing branches of the same religion. Emerging from the same Indo-Iranian religious tradition.

You may have noticed their religious terminology is similar, but inverted:
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